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Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:04pm
 
I can't find the old/existing Thread.  Hence:

They just keep losing money.  Cash thrown into a whirlpool.
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Reply #1 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
Maybe this rideshare business is more your cuppa chai.

Yuck

Ola, India's biggest ride-hailing startup, is heading Down Under.

It's the overseas debut for Ola, which will start inviting drivers in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth to sign up, it said in a statement on Tuesday.


http://www.afr.com/technology/apps/business/indian-ridesharing-giant-ola-is-comi... [/quote]
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Reply #2 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm
 
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.
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Reply #3 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.
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Reply #4 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:57pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


In WA the Government has introduced a plate buy back scheme....Nobody is happy!!!

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Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.
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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:22pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Maybe this rideshare business is more your cuppa chai.

Yuck

Ola, India's biggest ride-hailing startup, is heading Down Under.

It's the overseas debut for Ola, which will start inviting drivers in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth to sign up, it said in a statement on Tuesday.


http://www.afr.com/technology/apps/business/indian-ridesharing-giant-ola-is-comi...

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Maybe you can keep them in Harris Park, Gordon.
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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:24pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


You can give an Uber driver bad feedback if they stink.
If a taxi smells like a Delhi open defecation pit you just have to luxuriate in its subcontinent perfume.
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Reply #8 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:25pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.


I explained it all in that other Thread.  See if you can drag it up.
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Reply #9 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:43pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


You can give an Uber driver bad feedback if they stink.
If a taxi smells like a Delhi open defecation pit you just have to luxuriate in its subcontinent perfume.


I don't use taxis Uber is much better.

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Cabbies Prime Suspect In Slew Of Human Turds Found In A Sydney Street


Business owners in Sydney’s inner-west suburb of Ashfield are goddamn ropeable at the “daily occurrence” of finding human faeces in a nearby alleyway, and TBH, we would be too.

Tenants along Hercules Street have alleged that taxi drivers have resorted to using a vacant alleyway as a toilet overnight, and the resulting mess is almost enough to consider shutting up shop.
One business owner told The Herald Sun he caught a taxi driver dropping trou over the weekend, saying “I understand drivers are expected to work 24/7 but surely there’s better options than this.”

https://www.pedestrian.tv/style/cabbies-prime-suspect-in-slew-of-human-turds-fou...



I guess Trump would call where they come from a shithole

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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
Perth too! Is there anywhere a cabbie won't poop?

Swan Taxis cab driver caught doing a poo in Leederville park

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/swan-taxis-cab-driver-caught-doing-a-poo-in-le...
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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:57pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.


I explained it all in that other Thread.  See if you can drag it up.


Well, I don't understand it. Is it the same reason you supported Clive Palmer or the strike?

For your own self interests?
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Reply #12 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:13pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.


I explained it all in that other Thread.  See if you can drag it up.


Well, I don't understand it. Is it the same reason you supported Clive Palmer or the strike?

For your own self interests?


What are you talking about?  What 'strike?'  Palmer had zero to do with Cabs.  In fact, I think he is a Uber supporter.

Last election in Qld, I voted PHON out of self interest, and it is a totally justifiable self interest.
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Reply #13 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:15pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:13pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.


I explained it all in that other Thread.  See if you can drag it up.


Well, I don't understand it. Is it the same reason you supported Clive Palmer or the strike?

For your own self interests?


What are you talking about?  What 'strike?'  Palmer had zero to do with Cabs.  In fact, I think he is a Uber supporter.

Last election in Qld, I voted PHON out of self interest, and it is a totally justifiable self interest.


You joined the Palmer United campaign because Palmer was a bastard, you said, but YOUR bastard. You organised a certain strike for the same self-interest.

So what actual principle do you disagree with Uber on?
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Reply #14 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:19pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:13pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.


I explained it all in that other Thread.  See if you can drag it up.


Well, I don't understand it. Is it the same reason you supported Clive Palmer or the strike?

For your own self interests?


What are you talking about?  What 'strike?'  Palmer had zero to do with Cabs.  In fact, I think he is a Uber supporter.

Last election in Qld, I voted PHON out of self interest, and it is a totally justifiable self interest.


You joined the Palmer United campaign because Palmer was a bastard, you said, but YOUR bastard. You organised a certain strike for the same self-interest.

So what actual principle do you disagree with Uber on?


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You joined the Palmer United campaign because Palmer was a bastard, you said, but YOUR bastard.


Are you serious?  You have to be pulling your dick?  Palmer was MY bastard.  Really? 

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You organised a certain strike for the same self-interest.


What 'strike?'  What 'self interest?'

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So what actual principle do you disagree with Uber on?


If you can find the old Thread, it is all explained there.
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Reply #16 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:27pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
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You joined the Palmer United campaign because Palmer was a bastard, you said, but YOUR bastard.


Are you serious?  You have to be pulling your dick?  Palmer was MY bastard.  Really? 

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You organised a certain strike for the same self-interest.


What 'strike?'  What 'self interest?'

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So what actual principle do you disagree with Uber on?


If you can find the old Thread, it is all explained there.


So why did you start this one?
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Reply #17 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:28pm
 
Blockchain technology will put Uber out of business. Why have a centralized system when a decentralized blockchain would be much more efficient?
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Reply #18 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:33pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
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You joined the Palmer United campaign because Palmer was a bastard, you said, but YOUR bastard.


Are you serious?  You have to be pulling your dick?  Palmer was MY bastard.  Really? 

Grin



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You organised a certain strike for the same self-interest.


What 'strike?'  What 'self interest?'

Quote:
So what actual principle do you disagree with Uber on?


If you can find the old Thread, it is all explained there.


So why did you start this one?


Read the OP.  I can't find the original one.  It is probably still there, but I can't be arsed trawling back to find it.
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Reply #19 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 11:48pm
 
The I.O.C should introduce public defecation as an olympic sport so that India can win a gold medal.
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Reply #20 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 12:07am
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:33pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
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You joined the Palmer United campaign because Palmer was a bastard, you said, but YOUR bastard.


Are you serious?  You have to be pulling your dick?  Palmer was MY bastard.  Really? 

Grin



Quote:
You organised a certain strike for the same self-interest.


What 'strike?'  What 'self interest?'

Quote:
So what actual principle do you disagree with Uber on?


If you can find the old Thread, it is all explained there.


So why did you start this one?


Read the OP.  I can't find the original one.  It is probably still there, but I can't be arsed trawling back to find it.


If you can remember a statement or sentence you said anywhere in the thread, I can teach you how to find it with google.

"this statement or sentence" site:.ozpolitic.com

Yes, use quotation marks on what you want to find if you know that was said. If unsure you can break it

"i said" this "or maybe" site:.ozpolitic.com
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Reply #21 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 6:04am
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Don't live in QLD nor do I support the over-regulated outdated business model the Taxi industry inflicts.
The biggest threat to Uber will be other players like Uber.

The Taxi industry business model is inefficient outdated and in Sydney the quality of the drivers are worse then I experience with Uber !
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Reply #22 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 6:06am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.

Yes if its that bad then everyone will stop using it yet the Taxi industry is collapsing ?
Does this tell the rational mind a very important point ?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 11:48pm:
The I.O.C should introduce public defecation as an olympic sport so that India can win a gold medal.


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Reply #24 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 6:19am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
What do you have against Uber, Aussie? I'm curious.


First....I'd like you to tell me what you know about the Taxi Licencing regime in Queensland.


Nothing. Your answer, please.


Yes an odd way of debating a topic unless you live up there who cares ?
I spent 6 months up in Brisbane a few years back and I found the Taxi industry better up there then in Sydney and Melbourne but its the old business model Uber is smashing.

There is a difference many are not aware of and if you run a business you need to is that for the basic Uber service you are not covered by the drivers insurance. If they injure you you have to sue the driver ! For a small business this could expose you if you directed your staff to use it.

Personally I use it all the time ! The point above does not bother me at all. I park down the road from where I work, get a bus in and an Uber back to the car .... costs me about $13 dollars all up as opposed to $30+ earlybird parking..

In Sydney I find Taxi's uncomfortable cars .... with Uber I have had a Pajero, Audi A5, various Kia/Hiundai SUV's ...... all more comfortable than dated dunnydoors/Falcon's/Camry..... and the drivers seem more relaxed better english skills !
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Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:09pm
 
This caught my eye:  the battle of Uber v Waymo (owned by Google) is over.

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The courtroom fight between Uber and Waymo is over; now the race to get an autonomous ride-hailing service to market is back on. On Friday, we learned that Waymo—the self-driving car arm of Google parent Alphabet—has made one huge stride: The company applied to become a transportation network company in Arizona on Jan. 12, and its permit was approved on Jan. 24, Quartz reports. This nod from the Copper State means Waymo can begin operating a commercial service that would compete with human-powered ride-hail companies like Uber and Lyft, charging passengers for rides in its self-driving Chrysler Pacifica minivans.

“As we continue to test drive our fleet of vehicles in greater Phoenix, we’re taking all the steps necessary to launch our commercial service this year,” a Waymo spokesperson told Slate.

Waymo has slowly been making progress toward this goal, beginning with extensive real-world testing in Phoenix. Waymo first began offering hailed rides from its self-driving fleet there in early 2017, through its early rider program. These rides, limited to a 100-square mile area of the Phoenix metro, were free to those who participated. While these rides were first accompanied by a technician behind the wheel, in November Waymo began operating these vehicles completely autonomously. Now Waymo has taken the next step, and can start acting as a business rather than a beta program on Arizona’s roads. Details as to when exactly it will begin charging for rides, what that pricing structure will be, and when it will roll this out to other areas of the country are yet unknown.

The move is ostensibly bad news for Uber, which has also been fighting to get its own self-driving car fleet up and running. In 2017, it was sidelined by its intellectual property spat with Waymo, which was settled in court last week. Still, Uber’s not that far behind: The company is in the advanced stages of self-driving vehicle testing in Pittsburgh with a pilot program that offers rides in self-driving vehicles when you order an uberX. In fact, Uber beat Waymo to the punch with this program—it began in late 2016. Uber also began conducting self-driving vehicle testing in Arizona last year.

While the start-up’s autonomous-car efforts may now be racing to catch up to Waymo’s commercial status, Uber is actually in an excellent position: It now has the “second mover advantage.” In the past, as the leader in the ride-hailing space, Uber made a number of missteps, both internally, as it’s had to deal with widespread reports of sexual harassment and numerous executive shakeups, and with its expansion efforts—such as when it lost its license to operate in London last year. This has enabled competitors such as Lyft, moving at a slower pace, to improve its own foothold in the industry. With its self-driving car efforts too, Uber has made mistakes. It failed to get the proper permitting with the California DMV to test its vehicles on San Francisco roadways, temporarily forcing the company to relocate its testing fleet to Arizona. Uber’s beta efforts in the city were then further tested after a crash was reported in August.

Perhaps, now that the company is under new management, it’s time for Uber to abandon that famous motto of another Silicon Valley giant: “Move fast and break things.” Rather than fret at its position and rush its self-driving development efforts, the company should take a moment and learn from what its first-to-market competitor does. Plenty of second movers have ended up succeeding in the long run—Google’s popular search engine is a prime example of one. Uber’s job now is to learn from the pain points of Waymo and its users, endeavor to improve upon them, and offer not necessarily the first self-driving ride-hail service on the roads, but the best one.

Should Uber be worried by Waymo’s progress? Well, the company shouldn’t sit back and kick up its heels. But it should also breathe a sigh of relief. Perhaps someone else can make the mistakes for a change.



https://slate.com/technology/2018/02/waymo-may-have-put-uber-in-second-place-whe...
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Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:23pm
 
AiA wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:09pm:
This caught my eye:  the battle of Uber v Waymo (owned by Google) is over.

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The courtroom fight between Uber and Waymo is over; now the race to get an autonomous ride-hailing service to market is back on. On Friday, we learned that Waymo—the self-driving car arm of Google parent Alphabet—has made one huge stride: The company applied to become a transportation network company in Arizona on Jan. 12, and its permit was approved on Jan. 24, Quartz reports. This nod from the Copper State means Waymo can begin operating a commercial service that would compete with human-powered ride-hail companies like Uber and Lyft, charging passengers for rides in its self-driving Chrysler Pacifica minivans.

“As we continue to test drive our fleet of vehicles in greater Phoenix, we’re taking all the steps necessary to launch our commercial service this year,” a Waymo spokesperson told Slate.

Waymo has slowly been making progress toward this goal, beginning with extensive real-world testing in Phoenix. Waymo first began offering hailed rides from its self-driving fleet there in early 2017, through its early rider program. These rides, limited to a 100-square mile area of the Phoenix metro, were free to those who participated. While these rides were first accompanied by a technician behind the wheel, in November Waymo began operating these vehicles completely autonomously. Now Waymo has taken the next step, and can start acting as a business rather than a beta program on Arizona’s roads. Details as to when exactly it will begin charging for rides, what that pricing structure will be, and when it will roll this out to other areas of the country are yet unknown.

The move is ostensibly bad news for Uber, which has also been fighting to get its own self-driving car fleet up and running. In 2017, it was sidelined by its intellectual property spat with Waymo, which was settled in court last week. Still, Uber’s not that far behind: The company is in the advanced stages of self-driving vehicle testing in Pittsburgh with a pilot program that offers rides in self-driving vehicles when you order an uberX. In fact, Uber beat Waymo to the punch with this program—it began in late 2016. Uber also began conducting self-driving vehicle testing in Arizona last year.

While the start-up’s autonomous-car efforts may now be racing to catch up to Waymo’s commercial status, Uber is actually in an excellent position: It now has the “second mover advantage.” In the past, as the leader in the ride-hailing space, Uber made a number of missteps, both internally, as it’s had to deal with widespread reports of sexual harassment and numerous executive shakeups, and with its expansion efforts—such as when it lost its license to operate in London last year. This has enabled competitors such as Lyft, moving at a slower pace, to improve its own foothold in the industry. With its self-driving car efforts too, Uber has made mistakes. It failed to get the proper permitting with the California DMV to test its vehicles on San Francisco roadways, temporarily forcing the company to relocate its testing fleet to Arizona. Uber’s beta efforts in the city were then further tested after a crash was reported in August.

Perhaps, now that the company is under new management, it’s time for Uber to abandon that famous motto of another Silicon Valley giant: “Move fast and break things.” Rather than fret at its position and rush its self-driving development efforts, the company should take a moment and learn from what its first-to-market competitor does. Plenty of second movers have ended up succeeding in the long run—Google’s popular search engine is a prime example of one. Uber’s job now is to learn from the pain points of Waymo and its users, endeavor to improve upon them, and offer not necessarily the first self-driving ride-hail service on the roads, but the best one.

Should Uber be worried by Waymo’s progress? Well, the company shouldn’t sit back and kick up its heels. But it should also breathe a sigh of relief. Perhaps someone else can make the mistakes for a change.



https://slate.com/technology/2018/02/waymo-may-have-put-uber-in-second-place-whe...


Should post a link to that in this thread too. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1518671732
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