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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20228 Gordon Gender:	Slavery in Australia Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners?
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20228 Gordon Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #1 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:30pm The embassy and diplomats of Pakistan and Saudi have been keeping slaves in Australia.
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Reply #2 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:30pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:

Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners?

That is on the ABC ?
No I don't watch free to air let alone left wing infested rubbish you see on the ABC.

Saudi is an interesting country full of contradictions.

Over the years I have had offers to work over there but the few I know that have talked me out of it. One of my wife's cousins has worked all over the Middle East, there are some scary places where you don't want to get on the wrong side of authorities.

Was the Behind Closed Doors Story ?

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RightSaidFred Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1094 Sydney Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #3 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:31pm Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:30pm: The embassy and diplomats of Pakistan and Saudi have been keeping slaves in Australia. With diplomatic immunity not a lot can be done about it
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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6208 Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #4 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:36pm Diplomatic immunity. Has just been revoked!!! Sorry. Had to type that....
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #5 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:40pm With diplomatic immunity not a lot can be done about it Simple, chuck their embassy out. Lift your game or leave
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Reply #6 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:42pm

RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:

Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners?

That is on the ABC ?
No I don't watch free to air let alone left wing infested rubbish you see on the ABC.

Saudi is an interesting country full of contradictions.

Over the years I have had offers to work over there but the few I know that have talked me out of it. One of my wife's cousins has worked all over the Middle East, there are some scary places where you don't want to get on the wrong side of authorities.

Was the Behind Closed Doors Story ?

Ive turned down an offer for Doha and KSA because despite what people here think of me, I have a moral compass that would not allow me to work for such immoral countries.

ABC is ok when you pick and choose the shows, tonight's was worth watching.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20228 Gordon Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #7 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:46pm A Saudi diplomat kept a Filipino woman locked in his house waiting on his family hand on foot, and made her sign payslips for wages she never got.
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Reply #8 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 4:22am

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:46pm:

A Saudi diplomat kept a Filipino woman locked in his house waiting on his family hand on foot, and made her sign payslips for wages she never got.

No!
These people are muslims. Muslims dont behave like that.....do they? Grin

Can hear crickets here regardimg the luvies. Im sure they will have reasonable explanation.

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Reply #9 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 5:58am

miketrees wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

With diplomatic immunity not a lot can be done about it

Simple, chuck their embassy out.

Lift your game or leave

Yes that can be done but might cause bigger problems and does not address the issue.

I think they might be able to expel certain individuals which is more likely but I doubt anyone will be held accountable.

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Reply #10 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:05am

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:

Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners?

That is on the ABC ?
No I don't watch free to air let alone left wing infested rubbish you see on the ABC.

Saudi is an interesting country full of contradictions.

Over the years I have had offers to work over there but the few I know that have talked me out of it. One of my wife's cousins has worked all over the Middle East, there are some scary places where you don't want to get on the wrong side of authorities.

Was the Behind Closed Doors Story ?

Ive turned down an offer for Doha and KSA because despite what people here think of me, I have a moral compass that would not allow me to work for such immoral countries.

ABC is ok when you pick and choose the shows, tonight's was worth watching.

No I want it de-funded, if your right what ever has some public use might survive, I just don't watch free to air at all.

Yes the idea of compound living and the gross hypocrisy of Arabic culture is a big turn off.

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capitosinora Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2172 USA Florida Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #11 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 7:57am Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm: Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners? It is nothing in comparison with this.
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Reply #12 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:10am

capitosinora wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 7:57am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:

Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners?

It is nothing in comparison with this.

http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Australian-Aboriginal-Gen...

These Abos in bling were probably about to have their first decent hot meal in days, if not weeks.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 80215 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #13 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:32am ... is illegal. Now what Gypo etc is breaking the law? I see - a bunch of Sand Kaffirs/Kamel Kaffirs..... nothing new to see here, people... inside their embassies eh? So the law can't touch them.... Is there a link to the article?
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Reply #14 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:36am

Ah - here you are.. I'll save the day for you....

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/behind-closed-doors/9424204

Bet these girls are Filipinas or similar... paid a song and treated like slaves.... it does say 'slave-LIKE conditions'... I guess the cut-out is they get paid....

Oh, Freddie? The moment you close your mind saying that the source is some kind of lunatic left, and fail to even consider the view - you lose all credibility.

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Reply #15 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:57am

capitosinora wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 7:57am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:

Bloody hell, did anyone watch 4 Corners?

It is nothing in comparison with this.

http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Australian-Aboriginal-Gen...

Don't you spout off you hypocrite.

Git beck ta pickin dat cotton bfooar ey has yo flogged. Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 9:10am

I wanna hear from the 'global marketeers' about how the cost of labour is a resource and poverty is a resource to be exploited etc....

Let's hear from aqua about how these workers should make themselves more valuable to their overseer and rise from $250 a month to $251, but only if they give sex on the side as well like good house servants...

Well done, thou good and faithful servant! There'll be an extra shilling in your Christmas stocking this year....

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Reply #17 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:54pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 9:10am:

I wanna hear from the 'global marketeers' about how the cost of labour is a resource and poverty is a resource to be exploited etc....

Let's hear from aqua about how these workers should make themselves more valuable to their overseer and rise from $250 a month to $251, but only if they give sex on the side as well like good house servants...

Well done, thou good and faithful servant! There'll be an extra shilling in your Christmas stocking this year....

I'm getting the feeling with you Grap that we should just elect you as President and be done with it.

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Reply #18 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 9:03pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:36am:

Ah - here you are.. I'll save the day for you....

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/behind-closed-doors/9424204

Bet these girls are Filipinas or similar... paid a song and treated like slaves.... it does say 'slave-LIKE conditions'... I guess the cut-out is they get paid....

Oh, Freddie? The moment you close your mind saying that the source is some kind of lunatic left, and fail to even consider the view - you lose all credibility.

Yeah they take a day to get their links sorted and the transcript will also be there.

Hey where's the guy who always rushs to post if a cafe worker was underpaid by 5 cents by an Aussie?

He must be on vacation Wink

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 80215 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #19 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:31pm Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 8:36pm: Diplomatic immunity. Has just been revoked!!! Sorry. Had to type that....
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Reply #20 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:33pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 9:10am:

I wanna hear from the 'global marketeers' about how the cost of labour is a resource and poverty is a resource to be exploited etc....

Let's hear from aqua about how these workers should make themselves more valuable to their overseer and rise from $250 a month to $251, but only if they give sex on the side as well like good house servants...

Well done, thou good and faithful servant! There'll be an extra shilling in your Christmas stocking this year....

I'm getting the feeling with you Grap that we should just elect you as President and be done with it.

Do I get the choice of the chicks like Barnaby? Actually she's not my type.... don't much like the face in frontal view - profile looks OK, but that face has traveled.

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Reply #21 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:41pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:36am:

Ah - here you are.. I'll save the day for you....

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/behind-closed-doors/9424204

Bet these girls are Filipinas or similar... paid a song and treated like slaves.... it does say 'slave-LIKE conditions'... I guess the cut-out is they get paid....

Oh, Freddie? The moment you close your mind saying that the source is some kind of lunatic left, and fail to even consider the view - you lose all credibility.

There's no competition for South East Asians since the UK stopped exporting pommie domestic servants in the 1950s.

I wonder if there's a connection with Australia's livestock exports to the Middle East?

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10306 Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia Reply #22 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:52pm Contact these good people http://www.antislavery.org.au/what-we-do/about-us.html
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Reply #23 - Feb 14^th, 2018 at 5:17am

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:41pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:36am:

Ah - here you are.. I'll save the day for you....

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/behind-closed-doors/9424204

Bet these girls are Filipinas or similar... paid a song and treated like slaves.... it does say 'slave-LIKE conditions'... I guess the cut-out is they get paid....

Oh, Freddie? The moment you close your mind saying that the source is some kind of lunatic left, and fail to even consider the view - you lose all credibility.

There's no competition for South East Asians since the UK stopped exporting pommie domestic servants in the 1950s.

I wonder if there's a connection with Australia's livestock exports to the Middle East?

Reports say that a hell of a lot of the same thing, using mainly women from the same sources, goes on in the ME and also Hong Kong and a few other places that have a heavy reliance on tourism, or where people just want house servants they can exploit.

I suppose the term 'grinding poverty' in reference to The Philippines is the way to look at it. What I do know is that it is possible to pay a building tradie $10 a day there - not sure now...

Kinda conflicts with the official statement though:-

https://www.psa.gov.ph/content/average-family-income-2015-estimated-22-thousand-...

This looks closer to the truth:-

http://www.worldsalaries.org/philippines.shtml

"Carpenter average salary PPP $ 546 $ 121"

"Chambermaid average salary PPP $ 592 $ 131"

- the last figure is 'net monthly income in US dollars' = $40 a week to play with.

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