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Reply #30 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:22am
 


Gweggy, I am not going to respond when you start throwing the cream puffs, I am Troll resistant.
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Reply #31 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:23am
 
miketrees wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Gweggy, I am not going to respond when you start throwing the cream puffs, I am Troll resistant.


"cream puffs"?

I'm just giving you the facts.

The default speed limit is 50.

Where's the confusion?

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Reply #32 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:25am
 
Point to point speed cameras and dashcams would be more effective than setting a speed camera at the bottom of a hill.
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Reply #33 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:26am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:25am:
Point to point speed cameras and dashcams would be more effective than setting a speed camera at the bottom of a hill.


Sure, you're probably right.

I have no problem controlling my speed, though, whether it's going up a hill, down a hill, or on the flat.

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Reply #34 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:28am
 


For about 300$ per new car you could install GPS to every car, once you do enough speeding your car just wont start.
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Reply #35 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:31am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:26am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:25am:
Point to point speed cameras and dashcams would be more effective than setting a speed camera at the bottom of a hill.


Sure, you're probably right.

I have no problem controlling my speed, though, whether it's going up a hill, down a hill, or on the flat.



Well plenty of motoring experts disagree with you and say that enforcement should not be directed at drivers who creep over the speed limit, as it's just part of driving.
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Reply #36 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:33am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:42am:
You might not like Perth.

About 95% of drivers are clueless when it comes to roundabouts.



Yep... and doubly so when it comes to dual lane roundabouts.

And, as I have mentioned a while back, I would like to see red light cameras on the pedestrian crossings in St. Georges Terrace Perth - the one at London Court and the other one further up the Terrace near Central Park. And, also the one outside North Perth Plaza in Fitzgerald Street close to where I work.

Judging by the number of cars, buses, etc. I see going through the red light at these crossings it is only a matter of time before a pedestrian is seriously injured or worse.
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Reply #37 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:36am
 
Judging by the number of cars, buses, etc. I see going through the red light at these crossings it is only a matter of time before a pedestrian is seriously injured or worse.

Red lights are an admin control, only work if people comply.

An underpass is an engineering control, much safer.
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Reply #38 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:38am
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:42am:
You might not like Perth.

About 95% of drivers are clueless when it comes to roundabouts.



Yep... and doubly so when it comes to dual lane roundabouts.

And, as I have mentioned a while back, I would like to see red light cameras on the pedestrian crossings in St. Georges Terrace Perth - the one at London Court and the other one further up the Terrace near Central Park. And, also the one outside North Perth Plaza in Fitzgerald Street close to where I work.

Judging by the number of cars, buses, etc. I see going through the red light at these crossings it is only a matter of time before a pedestrian is seriously injured or worse.


Indeed.

The London Court one is just near my office, and I see cars and buses go through the red light all the time.

A couple of people have been hit, but no major injuries (thankfully).

Perth drivers really do NOT like stopping for pedestrians.

I've never understood why.
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Reply #39 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:46am
 
Cars doing the wrong thing in round-a-bouts is annoying, but due to the slow speed it's generally just a bit of bingle and not serious.
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Reply #40 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:12pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Cars doing the wrong thing in round-a-bouts is annoying, but due to the slow speed it's generally just a bit of bingle and not serious.


That cricketer - Michael Clarke (??) - was in a bingle a few years ago.

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Reply #41 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:12pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Cars doing the wrong thing in round-a-bouts is annoying, but due to the slow speed it's generally just a bit of bingle and not serious.


That cricketer - Michael Clarke (??) - was in a bingle a few years ago.



That blond bitch nearly killed me TWICE, once while I was pushing 1st born in the pram.
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Reply #42 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:39pm
 
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If the MythBusters were still around I guess we could get them to see the damage difference between a kid ran over at 40 v 50 ........ a small child (below bonnet height) would be dead in both cases ..... a taller teenager might slide over the bonnet.
Either case I see no difference !
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Reply #43 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:38am:
Carl D wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:42am:
You might not like Perth.

About 95% of drivers are clueless when it comes to roundabouts.



Yep... and doubly so when it comes to dual lane roundabouts.

And, as I have mentioned a while back, I would like to see red light cameras on the pedestrian crossings in St. Georges Terrace Perth - the one at London Court and the other one further up the Terrace near Central Park. And, also the one outside North Perth Plaza in Fitzgerald Street close to where I work.

Judging by the number of cars, buses, etc. I see going through the red light at these crossings it is only a matter of time before a pedestrian is seriously injured or worse.


Indeed.

The London Court one is just near my office, and I see cars and buses go through the red light all the time.

A couple of people have been hit, but no major injuries (thankfully).

Perth drivers really do NOT like stopping for pedestrians.

I've never understood why.


Sounds like most places in Italy.
Pedestrian crossing are more like targeting zones.
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Reply #44 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:43pm
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
Gordon

If the MythBusters were still around I guess we could get them to see the damage difference between a kid ran over at 40 v 50 ........ a small child (below bonnet height) would be dead in both cases ..... a taller teenager might slide over the bonnet.
Either case I see no difference !


The studies I've seen show that the difference between 40 and 50 is quite dramatic (in relation to injuries).

There's quite a big difference in stopping distances with those speeds too.

A family member of mine was hit out front of a school, so I'm all for the 40 zones.

In fact, they should be 30.

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