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Reply #180 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 9:20am
 
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14am:
You think breaking the law is fun?

Dear oh dear Roll Eyes




Now Greggy's an apologist for fake speed camera tickets.


Answer me this, Booby:

1. How many times have you been given a ticket when you weren't speeding - once, twice, maybe three times?

2. How many times have you gone over the limit, and not been given a ticket - hundreds of times; thousands?
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Reply #181 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 3:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14am:
You think breaking the law is fun?

Dear oh dear Roll Eyes




Now Greggy's an apologist for fake speed camera tickets.


Answer me this, Bobby:

1. How many times have you been given a ticket when you weren't speeding - once, twice, maybe three times?

2. How many times have you gone over the limit, and not been given a ticket - hundreds of times; thousands?



1. my last ticket a few years ago was for going 48 km/hr in a 40km/hr zone.

I wasn't speeding as I knew that intersection was a trap
so I looked at my speedo all the way through & it was dead on 40.
I ended up paying as I knew I would never receive justice in a court & it would have
multiplied my ticket by at least a factor 10 to contest it.

I heard a story once of some guy who paid out about $30K in legal fees
over a $300 ticket.
Eventually he was proven innocent but still left with a massive legal bill.
You can't fight the corrupt Govt.
The courts protect their Govt. masters.
There is no separation of powers.

We are all prisoners of a crooked system that steals our money.
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Re: Police union- speed cameras are revenue raisers
Reply #182 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:12pm
 
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14am:
You think breaking the law is fun?

Dear oh dear Roll Eyes




Now Greggy's an apologist for fake speed camera tickets.


Answer me this, Bobby:

1. How many times have you been given a ticket when you weren't speeding - once, twice, maybe three times?

2. How many times have you gone over the limit, and not been given a ticket - hundreds of times; thousands?



1. my last ticket a few years ago was for going 48 km/hr in a 40km/hr zone.

I wasn't speeding as I knew that intersection was a trap
so I looked at my speedo all the way through & it was dead on 40.
I ended up paying as I knew I would never receive justice in a court & it would have
multiplied my ticket by at least a factor 10 to contest it.

I heard a story once of some guy who paid out about $30K in legal fees
over a $300 ticket.
Eventually he was proven innocent but still left with a massive legal bill.
You can't fight the corrupt Govt.
The courts protect their Govt. masters.
There is no separation of powers.

We are all prisoners of a crooked system that steals our money.


Have you ever gone over the speed limit and NOT been fined?

I'm guessing the answer is "yes".

How many times?

I'm guessing the answer is "too many times to remember".

Wink
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Reply #183 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:15pm
 
I have challenged two speeding tickets. Lost both times. The first time, I did not put up much of a defence, and the judge increased the $200 fine to $225 + court costs. The second time, I put up a good defence. But because of technicalities of my defence, the judge ruled against me. The judge suggested I could appeal the decision, because I think he realised that the officer bringing in photos showing the 60kmh sign 100 metres before his patrol car, that I had a case. The judge raised my $200 fine to $300 and added court costs.
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Re: Police union- speed cameras are revenue raisers
Reply #184 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:12pm:
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14am:
You think breaking the law is fun?

Dear oh dear Roll Eyes




Now Greggy's an apologist for fake speed camera tickets.


Answer me this, Bobby:

1. How many times have you been given a ticket when you weren't speeding - once, twice, maybe three times?

2. How many times have you gone over the limit, and not been given a ticket - hundreds of times; thousands?



1. my last ticket a few years ago was for going 48 km/hr in a 40km/hr zone.

I wasn't speeding as I knew that intersection was a trap
so I looked at my speedo all the way through & it was dead on 40.
I ended up paying as I knew I would never receive justice in a court & it would have
multiplied my ticket by at least a factor 10 to contest it.

I heard a story once of some guy who paid out about $30K in legal fees
over a $300 ticket.
Eventually he was proven innocent but still left with a massive legal bill.
You can't fight the corrupt Govt.
The courts protect their Govt. masters.
There is no separation of powers.

We are all prisoners of a crooked system that steals our money.


Have you ever gone over the speed limit and NOT been fined?

I'm guessing the answer is "yes".

How many times?

I'm guessing the answer is "too many times to remember".

Wink



Just like you and everyone else - many times but not by much.
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Re: Police union- speed cameras are revenue raisers
Reply #185 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:12pm:
Have you ever gone over the speed limit and NOT been fined?

I'm guessing the answer is "yes".

How many times?

I'm guessing the answer is "too many times to remember".

Wink


That is a good point. That was how I justified my first bogus ticket. But the second one I thought I was just being taken advantage. The 140kmh I did down a stretch of Yeppoon Road I figured was justified the bogus tickets I received for no reason. So, getting speeding tickets for no reason would also incite people to "revenge speed".
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Reply #186 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:20pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
I have challenged two speeding tickets. Lost both times. The first time, I did not put up much of a defence, and the judge increased the $200 fine to $225 + court costs. The second time, I put up a good defence. But because of technicalities of my defence, the judge ruled against me. The judge suggested I could appeal the decision, because I think he realised that the officer bringing in photos showing the 60kmh sign 100 metres before his patrol car, that I had a case. The judge raised my $200 fine to $300 and added court costs.



I feel sorry for you -
you expected the system to be fair.
They are criminals stealing our money.
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Reply #187 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:24pm
 
The first time, I figured that the court had to prove that I was speeding. Not that I was NOT speeding. The second court date, I was more ready. The fact that I was ruled against in light of a technicality meant that I had to fork out nearly $400 for no reason.
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Reply #188 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:39pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
The first time, I figured that the court had to prove that I was speeding. Not that I was NOT speeding. The second court date, I was more ready. The fact that I was ruled against in light of a technicality meant that I had to fork out nearly $400 for no reason.



It was literally highway robbery.

You were robbed.
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Reply #189 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 5:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:27am:
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14am:
You think breaking the law is fun?

Dear oh dear Roll Eyes




Now Greggy's an apologist for fake speed camera tickets.


Don't speed = no ticket.

Simples!


Tell that to the thousands of AMERICANS falsely booked by crooked operator.

Tell that to the thousands of Australians also falsely booked, but unable to gain access to records to prove it.

The system is crooked.
There is even a rumor that speed cameras occasionally book drivers who are not speeding to ensure a continual flow of cash.
I wouldn't put it past them.

Look at the woman in Melbourne a few years ago.
Booked at an impossible speed in her Datsun I think.
ACA hired a professional driver to see if he could even achieve the speed she was booked at, he couldn't.
The authorities persisted with their demands for their cash.

Long story short
They had to repay millions in fines, based on the camera in the box.

The LIE here is that the camera simply takes pictures.
It's the computer and software that was at fault.
But to admit that would mean admitting that every single camera was faulty.
Imagine having to pay back every fine?
So they lied........again.

You don't have to speed to get booked.
If you ever left your mother's basement and drove a real car, instead of your Batman car on your computer, you would eventually be booked.

You are a FOOL.

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Reply #190 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:27am:
Bobby wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:14am:
You think breaking the law is fun?

Dear oh dear Roll Eyes




Now Greggy's an apologist for fake speed camera tickets.


Don't speed = no ticket.

Simples!


Tell that to the thousands of AMERICANS falsely booked by crooked operator.

Tell that to the thousands of Australians also falsely booked, but unable to gain access to records to prove it.

The system is crooked.
There is even a rumor that speed cameras occasionally book drivers who are not speeding to ensure a continual flow of cash.
I wouldn't put it past them.

Look at the woman in Melbourne a few years ago.
Booked at an impossible speed in her Datsun I think.
ACA hired a professional driver to see if he could even achieve the speed she was booked at, he couldn't.
The authorities persisted with their demands for their cash.

Long story short
They had to repay millions in fines, based on the camera in the box.

The LIE here is that the camera simply takes pictures.
It's the computer and software that was at fault.
But to admit that would mean admitting that every single camera was faulty.
Imagine having to pay back every fine?
So they lied........again.

You don't have to speed to get booked.
If you ever left your mother's basement and drove a real car, instead of your Batman car on your computer, you would eventually be booked.

You are a FOOL.



1. How many times have you been given a ticket when you weren't speeding - once, twice, maybe three times?

2. How many times have you gone over the limit, and not been given a ticket - hundreds of times; thousands?

Spare me the outrage, please    Roll Eyes

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Reply #191 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
Idiot.

How many times have you left your house?

How many.....................

No, must not mention multiple ............



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Reply #192 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:23pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Idiot.

How many times have you left your house?

How many.....................

No, must not mention multiple ............



Fool


I've driven every day for nearly 40 years, and I can't ever remember being given a ticket for something I didn't do.

Now:

1. How many times have you been given a ticket when you weren't speeding?

2. How many times have you gone over the limit, and not been given a ticket?

Two very simple questions, which you seem to be struggling to answer.

I wonder why that is.
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Reply #193 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:39pm
 
greggerypeccary

Your point is obvious, just about all of us speed at one point or another, unless your really stupid you generally don't get booked. So being booked incorrectly is not much of an issue unless its a really big fine like the Vic lady that was recorded at 156KPH in Datsun 120y.

I was lucky the other day went through a construction zone marked at 60 at 75  .... there was a cop waiting on the side of the road obviously he was looking for the real speeders 75 on the speedo in GPS speed probably 65-70.

I think the system is fair but I wish cops would look at all the other rules (non-speed related)  that are far more dangerous if broken.
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Reply #194 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:45pm
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
greggerypeccary

Your point is obvious, just about all of us speed at one point or another, unless your really stupid you generally don't get booked. So being booked incorrectly is not much of an issue unless its a really big fine like the Vic lady that was recorded at 156KPH in Datsun 120y.

I was lucky the other day went through a construction zone marked at 60 at 75 .... there was a cop waiting on the side of the road obviously he was looking for the real speeders 75 on the speedo in GPS speed probably 65-70.

I think the system is fair but I wish cops would look at all the other rules (non-speed related) that are far more dangerous if broken.


Bravo.

I'd like to see them concentrate a lot more on mobile phone use.

WAs deadly mobile phone addiction while driving

"The number of fines issued has continued to rise since penalties for mobile phone offending were toughened in 2014, increased from a $250 fine to $400 and three demerit points."

It's needs to be $1,000 and 6 demerit points.
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