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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #315 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:31am

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:30am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:44pm:

What is it with posters from Perth???

There are three - philperth, bwian and gwegowyturdery - and they are all three stupid in exactly the same way!!!!

What are the chances of THAT, I ask?? They must know each other and be friends or they are the same dickheaddle.

They're just a bunch of retards. Nothing more.
Well phil is anyway. He loves calling people names. He's a freakin retard.

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Reply #316 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:24am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:44pm:

What is it with posters from Perth???

There are three - philperth, bwian and gwegowyturdery - and they are all three stupid in exactly the same way!!!!

What are the chances of THAT, I ask?? They must know each other and be friends or they are the same dickheaddle.

We're educated, and intelligent.

Nice of you to notice.

They may be, you are most definitely not.

You are limited at best.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #317 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:36am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:24am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:51pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:44pm:

What is it with posters from Perth???

There are three - philperth, bwian and gwegowyturdery - and they are all three stupid in exactly the same way!!!!

What are the chances of THAT, I ask?? They must know each other and be friends or they are the same dickheaddle.

We're educated, and intelligent.

Nice of you to notice.

They may be, you are most definitely not.

You are limited at best.

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You're welcome.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #318 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 12:32pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:30am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:44pm:

What is it with posters from Perth???

There are three - philperth, bwian and gwegowyturdery - and they are all three stupid in exactly the same way!!!!

What are the chances of THAT, I ask?? They must know each other and be friends or they are the same dickheaddle.

They're just a bunch of retards. Nothing more.
Well phil is anyway. He loves calling people names. He's a freakin retard.

It's the water over there... and the perpetual inferiority complex from not having begun as a good old convict colony.... they all KNOW they can't fit in here.... jeez - they're so bright they've even got the SAS guarding the Indian Ocean! Now that's important..... bloody late afternoon sun off the ocean makes it hard to see those Great Whites, too...

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #319 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 12:47pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 12:32pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:30am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:44pm:

What is it with posters from Perth???

There are three - philperth, bwian and gwegowyturdery - and they are all three stupid in exactly the same way!!!!

What are the chances of THAT, I ask?? They must know each other and be friends or they are the same dickheaddle.

They're just a bunch of retards. Nothing more.
Well phil is anyway. He loves calling people names. He's a freakin retard.

It's the water over there... and the perpetual inferiority complex from not having begun as a good old convict colony.... they all KNOW they can't fit in here.... jeez - they're so bright they've even got the SAS guarding the Indian Ocean! Now that's important..... bloody late afternoon sun off the ocean makes it hard to see those Great Whites, too...

We have new technology.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #320 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #321 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:13pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You are missing the basic point which is about security and a criminal using devices to hide their ID when they are in a Court Room.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #322 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:15pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:40pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:17pm:

The judge excluded on woman for wearing a niquab who was the defendants wife....He excluded no other woman for wearing the same garment..

You are lying, of course, effortlessly, with barely a blink of the eye.

Progress, innit.

No....The judge had an issue with the defendants wife no one else???

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If there's any doubt about someone's identity, a woman can be asked to step into a room privately with a female security person, remove her niqab, verify their identity," he said.

The identity of the accused or his wife cannot be revealed for legal reasons.

Women connected to the case have previously been allowed in court wearing niqabs or burqas.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-08/unreasonable-judge-refused-woman-access-to...

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Bullshit .... what if the defendant & his wife weren't Muslims?

How would the defendants wifes identity then be protected from being revealed?

You're the one full of crap.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #323 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:16pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You're completely missing the point.

If it's about security, why aren't people with burns masks (for example) asked to remove those?

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #324 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:22pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You are missing the basic point which is about security and a criminal using devices to hide their ID when they in a Court Room.

So where do you go to buy surgical burns masks off the rack?

They are usually required to be tailor made ... & what's more ....

how many people would be only burned on the head/face & have no other body evidence of burns?

How many incidences of using burns masks have there been in committing crimes .... or acts of terror?

The old Burka/Niqab is way out in front.

Court of law ... all faces to be exposed ... verified burns victims excused.

No problems.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #325 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:24pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You are missing the basic point which is about security and a criminal using devices to hide their ID when they in a Court Room.

So where do you go to buy surgical burns masks off the rack?

They are usually required to be tailor made ... & what's more ....

how many people would be only burned on the head/face & have no other body evidence of burns?

How many incidences of using burns masks have there been in committing crimes .... or acts of terror?

The old Burka/Niqab is way out in front.

Court of law ... all faces to be exposed ... verified burns victims excused.

No problems.

There's no way a criminal would steal a mask, or pay off a doctor.

Grin

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #326 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You're completely missing the point.

If it's about security, why aren't people with burns masks (for example) asked to remove those?

If they have been verified why would you ask for removal?

Why is it OK for a Muslims wifes identity to be kept secret by her wearing a Niqab for legal reasons yet a non muslim not.

Do you think that if a non muslims wife was allowed into a court with head covering for legal protection that her identity wouldn't have been verified by Police or Officers of the court beforehand?

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #327 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You are missing the basic point which is about security and a criminal using devices to hide their ID when they in a Court Room.

So where do you go to buy surgical burns masks off the rack?

They are usually required to be tailor made ... & what's more ....

how many people would be only burned on the head/face & have no other body evidence of burns?

How many incidences of using burns masks have there been in committing crimes .... or acts of terror?

The old Burka/Niqab is way out in front.

Court of law ... all faces to be exposed ... verified burns victims excused.

No problems.

There's no way a criminal would steal a mask, or pay off a doctor.

Grin

So he knows just where to get/steal a tailor made surgical burns mask?

And doctors don't make or supply them.

Laugh that off Noddy. Roll Eyes

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #328 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:31pm

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So where do you go to buy surgical burns masks off the rack?

They are usually required to be tailor made ... & what's more ....

We are discussing someone with evil intent, nothing else. Someone of that intent can easily enough get one made. They are not illegal.

Quote:

how many people would be only burned on the head/face & have no other body evidence of burns?

I'd guess there'd be many.

Quote:

How many incidences of using burns masks have there been in committing crimes .... or acts of terror?

The old Burka/Niqab is way out in front.

Completely irrelevant to the point of someone with evil intent bent on hiding who they are. They'll use any device.

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Court of law ... all faces to be exposed ... verified burns victims excused.

No problems.

Just like the niqab wearer can be verified instead of being just summarily booted out of a public gallery.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #329 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:35pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:

What about them you dill?

Has someone been asked to remove one in a court of law?

No, they have not. Do you reckon this Judge who tossed a member of the public gallery out because of some piece of apparel covering her face would have tossed out a person wearing one of those burn masks. If not, why not?

For both of you t/wats

Is a Niqab or Burka a medical/surgical requirement in the treatment of burns?

Or just an item of oppressive apparel that can readily be removed if asked to do so in a court of law?

Is it legal to wear a hoodie, balaclava or full faced bike helmet in a court?

And couldn't a facial burns victim be asked to supply a medical certificate?

That you clowns think persisting with the surgical burns mask option is a winning formula in this debate shows how desperate you are. Roll Eyes

You are missing the basic point which is about security and a criminal using devices to hide their ID when they in a Court Room.

So where do you go to buy surgical burns masks off the rack?

They are usually required to be tailor made ... & what's more ....

how many people would be only burned on the head/face & have no other body evidence of burns?

How many incidences of using burns masks have there been in committing crimes .... or acts of terror?

The old Burka/Niqab is way out in front.

Court of law ... all faces to be exposed ... verified burns victims excused.

No problems.

There's no way a criminal would steal a mask, or pay off a doctor.

Grin

So he knows just where to get/steal a tailor made surgical burns mask?

And doctors don't make or supply them.

Laugh that off Noddy.

You still don't get the point (and obviously never will).

It's like trying to reason with a child.

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