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Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:01am
 
S'in the Herald Sun, subscriber bit:-

"Victorian Judge sensationally bans burka in his court

A Victorian supreme Court judge has stopped the niqab-wearing wife of an accused terrorist from entering his courtroom this week, saying all in his court must show their faces."


Be a link somewhere, but this is behind the Wall of Pay.

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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:07am
 
Which one is it that was banned, the burka or the niqab?
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:09am
 


About time the sand monkeys started to learn their place.


If they don't like the way we run our country they can always fkk off to the islamic utopia they came from.

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Reply #3 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:10am
 
Victorian Supreme Court judge sensationally bans burqas in his court
REBEKAH CAVANAGH, Herald Sun
February 7, 2018 8:45pm
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A VICTORIAN Supreme Court judge has sensationally banned burqas in his court.

Justice Christopher Beale stopped the niqab-wearing wife of an accused terrorist from entering his courtroom this week, saying all in his court must show their faces.

“I require anybody who comes into the court — and all are welcome — but anybody who comes into the court, for their face to be uncovered,” Justice Beale said.

The woman refused to remove her traditional garb, and sat outside.

The Herald Sun ­understands it is the first known case of a burqa ban in a Victorian court.

Premier Daniel Andrews said this morning that move showed judges and magistrates had sufficient powers to run their courts and changes flagged by the State Opposition were unnecessary.

“The decision made by that particular judge would seem to demonstrate that point,’’ he said.

“There is no need to be making further changes ... judges and magistrates have all the powers they need to run their court processes.

“I think this was done in a respectful way and as I understand it the person actually removed the item of clothing and that was seen by the court as important.”

However, Islamic leaders slammed the decision as “unreasonable” and a violation of the woman’s human rights.

The controversial Islamic veil has long troubled courts, where the dress code does not even allow people to wear sunglasses perched on their heads.


The Victorian Supreme Court dress code advises people to “dress appropriately”, adding “no hats or sunglasses”.
The Supreme Court dress code, set out on its website, advises people to “dress appropriately”, adding “no hats or sunglasses”.

But a court spokesman said judges were able to decide who entered their courts.

The woman concerned is the wife of an accused terrorist, who cannot be named for legal reasons. She did not want to remove her niqab, but instead agreed to leave the courtroom; however, she is expected to attend further hearings, which may lead to further problems.

Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Adel Salman said: “This woman’s human rights have been violated. I think the judge’s decision is unreasonable and concerning.

“Women choose to wear it. It’s part of their faithfulness to God. To ask them to remove it is quite intrusive and, in some cases, can be traumatic.”


Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Adel Salman says the woman’s human rights have been violated. Picture: Mark Wilson
During the man’s appearances in the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court last year his supporters, including women wearing burqas, snubbed court protocols and refused to stand when the magistrate entered the courtroom.

The state Opposition last year proposed the introduction of laws to jail or fine women wearing the burqa or niqab who refused to show their faces in court.

Opposition Leader Matthew Guy stood by that policy on Wednesday, saying it would ­ensure that disrespect shown towards judges was punished.

“If you don’t respect the court, you don’t respect the law,” Mr Guy said.

Attorney-General Martin Pakula said the Coalition’s proposal was unnecessary.
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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:26am
 

Some basic education is obviously needed here.

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Reply #5 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:27am
 
Alinta wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:10am:
Victorian Supreme Court judge sensationally bans burqas in his court
REBEKAH CAVANAGH, Herald Sun
February 7, 2018 8:45pm
Subscriber only
A VICTORIAN Supreme Court judge has sensationally banned burqas in his court.

Justice Christopher Beale stopped the niqab-wearing wife of an accused terrorist from entering his courtroom this week, saying all in his court must show their faces.

“I require anybody who comes into the court — and all are welcome — but anybody who comes into the court, for their face to be uncovered,” Justice Beale said.

The woman refused to remove her traditional garb, and sat outside.

The Herald Sun ­understands it is the first known case of a burqa ban in a Victorian court.

Premier Daniel Andrews said this morning that move showed judges and magistrates had sufficient powers to run their courts and changes flagged by the State Opposition were unnecessary.

“The decision made by that particular judge would seem to demonstrate that point,’’ he said.

“There is no need to be making further changes ... judges and magistrates have all the powers they need to run their court processes.

“I think this was done in a respectful way and as I understand it the person actually removed the item of clothing and that was seen by the court as important.”

However, Islamic leaders slammed the decision as “unreasonable” and a violation of the woman’s human rights.

The controversial Islamic veil has long troubled courts, where the dress code does not even allow people to wear sunglasses perched on their heads.


The Victorian Supreme Court dress code advises people to “dress appropriately”, adding “no hats or sunglasses”.
The Supreme Court dress code, set out on its website, advises people to “dress appropriately”, adding “no hats or sunglasses”.

But a court spokesman said judges were able to decide who entered their courts.

The woman concerned is the wife of an accused terrorist, who cannot be named for legal reasons. She did not want to remove her niqab, but instead agreed to leave the courtroom; however, she is expected to attend further hearings, which may lead to further problems.

Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Adel Salman said: “This woman’s human rights have been violated. I think the judge’s decision is unreasonable and concerning.

“Women choose to wear it. It’s part of their faithfulness to God. To ask them to remove it is quite intrusive and, in some cases, can be traumatic.”


Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Adel Salman says the woman’s human rights have been violated. Picture: Mark Wilson
During the man’s appearances in the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court last year his supporters, including women wearing burqas, snubbed court protocols and refused to stand when the magistrate entered the courtroom.

The state Opposition last year proposed the introduction of laws to jail or fine women wearing the burqa or niqab who refused to show their faces in court.

Opposition Leader Matthew Guy stood by that policy on Wednesday, saying it would ­ensure that disrespect shown towards judges was punished.

“If you don’t respect the court, you don’t respect the law,” Mr Guy said.

Attorney-General Martin Pakula said the Coalition’s proposal was unnecessary.


The Islamic council of Victoria claim her human rights have been violated, they should be more concerned about muslims on terror charges.
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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:30am
 
The mussies and the leftie bedwetters are going to be salty over this.  Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:26am:





The only education needed is by the sand monkeys, keep your backward monkey ways where they belong, in the 14th century middle east sh1thole you came from.


No else needs to know or give a fkk about the dress standards of these backward terrorist supporting scumbags.


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Reply #8 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:38am
 
Niqab - a derivative of nicoteine, second class nicoteine used to wean smokers.

Hijab - a cultural uppercut.

Burka - a resident of the NSW Outback town of Bourke; (coll) something close to a Berserker of Nordic fame/myth.

Chador - a type of soup (eg - I'll have a bowl of lobster chador, please, waiter).

Dupatta - a form of greeting, eg that Du, Patta? (alt) asking if a person is a chatterer .........   Cool
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Re: Victorian judge bans niquab in court
Reply #9 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:38am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:26am:





The only education needed is by the sand monkeys, keep your backward monkey ways where they belong, in the 14th century middle east sh1thole you came from.


No else needs to know or give a fkk about the dress standards of these backward terrorist supporting scumbags.





... for the people who complain about something that they know absolutely nothing about.


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Reply #10 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:42am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:27am:
The Islamic council of Victoria claim her human rights have been violated, they should be more concerned about muslims on terror charges.


Holy terrorism isn't an abuse of the victim's or intended victim's civil rights...........  don't be too hard on the ICV - they're trying their hardest to catch up with civilisation ...... new country and all and hard to forget that you don't get night and fogged here and chopped in the country square for a heap of next to nothings... jeez, here you can even approach the police to make a complaint without being arrested*..... if you're lucky....

* don't laugh - in some Islamic nations people don't go near the police for that very reason - Libya was like that before the Good Colonel bit the dust... what a shame - he was a great one for a laugh ......

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Reply #11 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:38am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:26am:





The only education needed is by the sand monkeys, keep your backward monkey ways where they belong, in the 14th century middle east sh1thole you came from.


No else needs to know or give a fkk about the dress standards of these backward terrorist supporting scumbags.





... for the people who complain about something that they know absolutely nothing about.





Like how to behave when you have been allowed to live in another person's country.

Not being a filthy muslim terrorist - husband

Not being a disrespectful b1tch - wife

Yes I agree

Deportation will fix both our and their problems
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Reply #12 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:43am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:26am:





The only education needed is by the sand monkeys, keep your backward monkey ways where they belong, in the 14th century middle east sh1thole you came from.


No else needs to know or give a fkk about the dress standards of these backward terrorist supporting scumbags.




While they are at it they can take you Pommy bastards with them!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #13 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:46am
 
... and to think they locked some good ones up on Manus etc and told them they'd never get to come here....  Cool
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Reply #14 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:47am
 
Well done judge. We show our faces in court. Drop dead apologists.
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