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Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive
Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 6:16am

Childcare fees bite parents who want work
SBS News Feb 1 2018
More stay-at-home parents say they're not working because child care is too expensive than those who say it's their preference to look after their kids. Sad

Nearly 120,000 parents aren't working because child care is too expensive or they can't find a spot.

The high price of child care was the top reason cited for Australians who weren't in the labour force because they were looking after children, government data released on Thursday shows.

One in three, or 95,700, said this was the case for them, while another 21,700 said there was either no childcare service nearby or no spots available. Sad

That's more than those who said they were stay-at-home parents because they preferred to look after their children that way - a reason given by 77,600.

The federal government hopes its new childcare subsidy system, which starts in July, will let many of these parents be able to take up work.

Education Minister Simon Birmingham estimates the overhaul will help an extra 230,000 families get back to work or take on more hours.

The Productivity Commission report shows the most parents saying stiff fees were a barrier to returning to work were in the Northern Territory and Queensland.

However, Queensland had the lowest median cost of daycare in the country - at $400 a week or $80 a day - and the NT was the third lowest.

Parents in Queensland also had the lowest out-of-pocket costs after government subsidies, across all income brackets.

The ACT had the highest fees, with a median weekly cost of $545 for long day care.

Under the new childcare support system, taxpayers will only pay subsidies for fees up to a maximum of $11.55 an hour ($115.50 a day or $577 for a full week).

In 2017, none of the median fees charged in any state was higher than this; however, the data does not reveal what the most expensive services cost and how many there are above this maximum level.

The middle level of fees in the ACT was $10.90 an hour.

COST OF CHILDCARE IN 2017

* Queensland $400 a week ($80 a day)

* Tasmania $414 ($82.80)

* NT $439 ($87.80)

* South Australia $442 ($88.40)

* Western Australia $452 ($90.40)

* NSW $470 ($94)

* Victoria $470 ($94)

* ACT $545 ($109)

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macman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2435 australia Gender:	Re: Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive Reply #1 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:13am All part of the liberal legacy. Wage suppression and out of control rising costs is all you will get under this corrupt Turdbull government.
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Reply #2 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:42am

Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive

Will you make up your mind? You bleat incessantly about wages not being adequate. Here is a case of good wages of child care workers (plus the various rules, regulations, and licence fees) making child care a very expensive exercise and you are still bleating.

You are a walking talking paradox.

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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Reply #3 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:17am

salad in wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:42am:

Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive

Will you make up your mind? You bleat incessantly about wages not being adequate. Here is a case of good wages of child care workers (plus the various rules, regulations, and licence fees) making child care a very expensive exercise and you are still bleating.

You are a walking talking paradox.

So is that your funny for the day? Little sense debating with a person who thinks childcare workers are well paid. Grin

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Reply #4 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:24am

macman wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:17am:

salad in wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:42am:

Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive

Will you make up your mind? You bleat incessantly about wages not being adequate. Here is a case of good wages of child care workers (plus the various rules, regulations, and licence fees) making child care a very expensive exercise and you are still bleating.

You are a walking talking paradox.

So is that your funny for the day? Little sense debating with a person who thinks childcare workers are well paid. Grin

beat me to it

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Reply #5 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 10:14am

macman wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:17am:

salad in wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:42am:

Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive

Will you make up your mind? You bleat incessantly about wages not being adequate. Here is a case of good wages of child care workers (plus the various rules, regulations, and licence fees) making child care a very expensive exercise and you are still bleating.

You are a walking talking paradox.

So is that your funny for the day? Little sense debating with a person who thinks childcare workers are well paid. Grin

They seem to be paid well and are in high demand, even with very expensive childcare a lot them have waiting lists. No easy solution here often it comes down to a life style choice over money to work.
What concerns me would be the potential explosion of unregulated child care.

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RightSaidFred Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1094 Sydney Gender:	Re: Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive Reply #6 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 10:15am macman wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:13am: All part of the liberal legacy. Wage suppression and out of control rising costs is all you will get under this corrupt Turdbull government. Yet another feeble attempt to rewrite history.
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Reply #7 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 10:43am

when the feminists got women to re enter the workplace 40 years ago, we had a doubling of the labour pool.

if you double the labour pool , you halve the value of labour.

that was a really dumb move.

now the feminists and leftie socialist intellectuals nearly destroyed the family unit with that dumb move , but they still had to find a way of getting the "state" to be a substitute parent to really finish the family unit off.

enter institutional day care. Wink

now from cradle to university, the little critters can be fully indocrinated by the leftie intellectual, whilst women work 40 hours a week in crap jobs they dont even enjoy Wink

and the complete irony is that jobs for men are disappearing.

men will soon be at home , curled up on the couch watching porn and netflix whilst the women work even longer to pay for kids they never see.

the leftie intellectuals have really sold women a lemon.

Cheesy

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive Reply #8 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 10:48am Idiot.
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Reply #9 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 11:40am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 10:48am:

Idiot.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arise-awake-and-stop-not/female-happin...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wel...

very 'reactive" answer bojack and clearly wrong

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Not Working Because Childcare Is Too Expensive Reply #10 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 11:47am He's been watching too much "Longwindbag". When I was young, married, kids, there was no child care welfare. There was no child care except what you could arrange privately and pay for. And there was nothing wrong with that. At least they weren't getting lessons in LGBTXYZ and other crap.
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Reply #11 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 11:57am

macman wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:13am:

All part of the liberal legacy. Wage suppression and out of control rising costs is all you will get under this corrupt Turdbull government.

Costs are rising because of employee expectations, since employees are the majority and they vote for the government, they vote themselves all the perks in the world.

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Reply #12 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 12:15pm

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 11:47am:

He's been watching too much "Longwindbag".

When I was young, married, kids, there was no child care welfare. There was no child care except what you could arrange privately and pay for.
And there was nothing wrong with that.
At least they weren't getting lessons in LGBTXYZ and other crap.

One parent worked in your vintage whilst mum stayed home and took care of domestic duties .

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Reply #13 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 12:23pm

We need to rethink childcare in this country. It's not working well. The cost is too prohibitive for some people and that keeps them out of work. It adds to traffic because people have to visit a childcare centre that's out of their way. Average charges of $400 a week are a very strong disincentive to find work.

Perhaps we should make it free as they do in some countries or cap the charges at a much lower level. We should relax the regulations on the industry to make it possible for someone to get paid a government subsidy to look after someone else's kids. We should consider other solutions. Doing nothing is no longer an option.

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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Reply #14 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 12:40pm

Its time wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 12:15pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 11:47am:

He's been watching too much "Longwindbag".

When I was young, married, kids, there was no child care welfare. There was no child care except what you could arrange privately and pay for.
And there was nothing wrong with that.
At least they weren't getting lessons in LGBTXYZ and other crap.

One parent worked in your vintage whilst mum stayed home and took care of domestic duties .

Wrong as usual. We both worked.

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