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Jan 31st, 2018 at 2:19pm
 
Harley-Davidson to close New Castalloy Adelaide factory, with 120 jobs to go   Sad

ABC News
January 31 2018

An Adelaide manufacturer of Harley-Davidson wheel rims will close, impacting about 120 local workers.   

New Castalloy at North Plympton — which in an unrelated matter is at the centre of a renewed search for the Beaumont children — will shut down in just over a year.

The Australian Workers Union said 120 jobs would be lost.   Sad

"Apparently this has to do with sales of large motorcycles and ongoing demand for the product that is produced at the North Plympton site," union official Peter Lamps told the ABC.

"This is not about competitiveness or cost issues. Harley-Davidson has made it abundantly clear to us that this has been more of a product mix and product demand issue.

    "Certainly the workers and the way they operate down there has nothing to do with the decision that has been made."

Harley-Davidson is closing two operations — the other in Kansas — after its motorcycle shipments to dealers fell to their lowest level in six years.

It is making plans for new models in an effort to reverse the decline.
Workers told at end of shifts

Mr Lamps said workers at the Adelaide site received the news as they ended their shifts late yesterday, and he was making arrangements to visit the factory on Thursday, because the workers have today off.

"Part of my visit on-site tomorrow will be to make sure all of those workers' entitlements, when redundancies do occur, will be met in full," he said.

He said there might be some flow-on impact to materials suppliers to the Australian operation, but the bigger concern was the looming loss of more Australian manufacturing skills.

"I think the broader aspect is these highly-skilled jobs, making these niche products [will go]," he said.

"[It is concerning] if we pride ourselves on being a country that can make things rather than just produce a raw product and have that finished elsewhere."   Sad

Castalloy was facing closure back in 2011 until Harley-Davidson came to its financial rescue, then a rent-free deal for the foundry was negotiated two years later.

Minister for Manufacturing and Innovation Kyam Maher said

"The State Government had provided rent relief to New Castalloy in the past and had made New Castalloy last year formally aware that we were committed to continuing that so there's nothing the State Government could have done further, the company's told us, to help New Castalloy stay open," he said.

"We're going to make sure we stand shoulder to shoulder with these workers.

"We're going to have government officials down with the union, the Australian Workers Union, at the site tomorrow, offering the same level of support we provided to workers in the auto industry to make sure workers have the best possible chance to retrain, to get career advice and to access employment services.”

The factory site will be searched in the coming weeks for the remains of the Beaumont children, who disappeared from an Adelaide beach on Australia Day 1966.
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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm
 
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad
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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad


I guess the Kansas closure was their fault as well. Nothing to do with sales at all. Wink
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why would any manufacturing company go/stay in South Australia??

unreliable and most expensive power in the world...

high company taxes..

watch all of these American Companies move back to the states where Trump just dropped company tax to 21%...

Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars are flying back into the United States as we speak...

the liberals in Australia are trying to do the something here to get business going again in australia and to pay back our debt but the moronic Labor/Greens party are blocking them..

they are Economic Illiterate Vandals who need to be horse whipped...  Angry
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad


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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Isn't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin
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Reply #6 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
whiteknight

Its a bit off a nuff nuff story ...... Harley Davidsons are more fashion then practical motor bikes and go in and out of trend. They can make parts where ever they like, they don't have to guarantee jobs either here or in the US or anywhere.
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Reply #7 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


Have you been re-tooled?

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:09pm:
why would any manufacturing company go/stay in South Australia??

unreliable and most expensive power in the world...

high company taxes..

watch all of these American Companies move back to the states where Trump just dropped company tax to 21%...

Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars are flying back into the United States as we speak...

the liberals in Australia are trying to do the something here to get business going again in australia and to pay back our debt but the moronic Labor/Greens party are blocking them..

they are Economic Illiterate Vandals who need to be horse whipped...  Angry

A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.
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Reply #9 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.
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Reply #10 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.
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Reply #11 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.



Trump is trying to equal Chinese tax rates where they have no
health and safety and get paid a bowl of rice per day.
That's not going to work for a society like ours.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:51pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.



Trump is trying to equal Chinese tax rates where they have no
health and safety and get paid a bowl of rice per day.
That's not going to work for a society like ours.


Company tax is a strangler of productivity and hence an albatross on real wages growth. You have things arse a peeky.

Just a backdoor tax on wages anyway with double the deadweight loss.
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Reply #13 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:13pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


That probably won't happen once he realizes that Turdball and co are the party of Luddites who don't believe in renewable energy and the jobs that can be created from it Sad

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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:13pm:
who don't believe in renewable energy and the jobs that can be created from it



Like steel and aluminium manufacturing? Wink
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crocodile wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:51pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.



Trump is trying to equal Chinese tax rates where they have no
health and safety and get paid a bowl of rice per day.
That's not going to work for a society like ours.


Company tax is a strangler of productivity and hence an albatross on real wages growth. You have things arse a peeky.

Just a backdoor tax on wages anyway with double the deadweight loss.



Life in America is really tough -
it's dog eat dog and it will get worse under Trump.
Is that how you want Australia to be?
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:24pm:
crocodile wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:51pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.



Trump is trying to equal Chinese tax rates where they have no
health and safety and get paid a bowl of rice per day.
That's not going to work for a society like ours.


Company tax is a strangler of productivity and hence an albatross on real wages growth. You have things arse a peeky.

Just a backdoor tax on wages anyway with double the deadweight loss.



Life in America is really tough -
it's dog eat dog and it will get worse under Trump.
Is that how you want Australia to be?


Capital productivity has been falling like a stone for nigh on twenty years. Keep taxing it all you want. Just stop whinging when your wages go backwards.

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Reply #17 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:10pm
 
What will the nation do without Hardly Ablesons with near no exhaust blasting by on a Sunday morning?

If business management is so poor they can't afford to pay taxes, the owners should get better managers or just leave the business entirely.  Shifting to making Harley David-Sans will only chop off their own buyer market for motor cycles 'back home' and eventually choke them in their own bullshit.

Great capital productivity..... one day only the bikie drug kings will be able to afford Harleys.... nobody else will have any income, so we'd all be better off quitting the work force and going into crime for a living.....

BOTR......

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lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad


I guess the Kansas closure was their fault as well. Nothing to do with sales at all. Wink

no...  its all the Conservatives fault LW and RW Conservatives...  nothing to do with sales, the bottom line or cheaper labour overseas etc, etc, etc...

Climate Change...  all the Conservatives Fault.

Inflation Conservatives fault.

Stagnant wage growth Conservatives fault...

Pregnant women Conservatives fault...

The list is practically endless. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #19 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:42pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:10pm:
What will the nation do without Hardly Ablesons with near no exhaust blasting by on a Sunday morning?

If business management is so poor they can't afford to pay taxes, the owners should get better managers or just leave the business entirely.  Shifting to making Harley David-Sans will only chop off their own buyer market for motor cycles 'back home' and eventually choke them in their own bullshit.

Great capital productivity..... one day only the bikie drug kings will be able to afford Harleys.... nobody else will have any income, so we'd all be better off quitting the work force and going into crime for a living.....

BOTR......

Might buy a second house in Italy - for half the year..... got a couple in mind.... 6 deg today near Venice...... brrrr.. but Spring just around the corner...

Arrivederci....


It has precisely zero to do with poor management. It's really simple. Tax productivity and investment slows. Investment slows and so do acquired skills. No skills growth = no wages growth. Your ignorance regarding the effects of productivity performance is truly appalling.

Even your mates down at the ACTU have twigged and can see the link between labour and capital components to productivity and the effect on wages. For fukk sake, buy a textbook.

https://www.actu.org.au/media/1033223/actu-submission-2016-17-annual-wage-review...
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Grendel wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:39pm:
lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad


I guess the Kansas closure was their fault as well. Nothing to do with sales at all. Wink

no...  its all the Conservatives fault LW and RW Conservatives...  nothing to do with sales, the bottom line or cheaper labour overseas etc, etc, etc...

Climate Change...  all the Conservatives Fault.

Inflation Conservatives fault.

Stagnant wage growth Conservatives fault...

Pregnant women Conservatives fault...

The list is practically endless. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


So what have the conservatives got to offer the battler ?

Trickle down effect ? Cheesy LOL


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Reply #21 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:07am
 
Awww, just like Trump's tax cuts have only benefited 2% of the population while major corporations continue to lay off workers.
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An interesting different "politically correct" view from Boris.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2013321945622501&id=100008341441937


But any manufacturer faced with a decision to cut costs would exit SA at a fast pace mainly due to the excessively high costs and unreliable and unstable SA power supply.

And having to have a whopping great diesel in the back shed doesn't help either.

And the risk of having complex equipment damaged by the erratic unstable shoddy Secondary Power renewable rubbish SA power supply holds the exit door open too.

And being constantly harassed by hostile belligerent corrupt Commo union thugs being waved on by little squidgy Bull S. really helps to.

And Trumpy dropping company taxes thru the floor which is getting even a Chinese solar panel company moving to USA doesn't help either.


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The imposter SA Labor "govt" could not match Trumpy's lucrative offer that has companies all over the world clamoring to setup in the USA now after Trumpy cut company taxes.

And stodgy little Bull S. the Socialist drongo flatly refuses to cut company taxes here.





Harley-Davidson to close Adelaide plant
AAP      AAP31 January 2018

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Harley-Davidson to close Adelaide plant


More than 100 jobs will be lost with a decision by motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson to close its New Castalloy factory in Adelaide in 2019.

South Australian Manufacturing Minister Kyam Maher said the state government was advised of the decision on Tuesday night.

He said it was no reflection on the profitability of the Adelaide operations or the quality of the work.

"This is a decision based on consumer preferences," he told reporters.

"The large-style motorcycles aren't being bought in the numbers that they have been in the past and the need for what's produced here has diminished."

New Castalloy was bought by Harley-Davidson in 2006 to secure its supply of wheels and hubs for some of its range of motorcycles.

The plant was threatened with closure in 2011 when Harley-Davidson announced plans to move its manufacturing operations to China.

But the Milwaukee-based group reversed its decision in 2013 and signed a new lease deal with the state government, which owns the site, to keep the plant open.

Since then, government support for New Castalloy has been worth about $500,000 a year.

Mr Maher said the government would offer New Castalloy workers the same level of support offered to other auto sector workers who lost their jobs in recent years, including those at Holden.

The South Australian opposition said the closure of New Castalloy was the result of the state government's high-tax, high-cost regime which was stifling business investment.

"Small businesses are really struggling and the costs of doing business in South Australia are stopping many companies from expanding and employing more people," industry spokesman Corey Wingard said.


But Mr Maher said the decision taken by Harley-Davidson in the US was totally out of the control of the SA government.

The New Castalloy plant at North Plympton had also been in the news recently as the focus of renewed investigations into the 1966 disappearance of the Beaumont children.

Police were preparing to conduct an excavation on the site amid speculation it's where the three children were buried.

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/harley-davidson-close-adelaide-plant-051008702...
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And the glerky little union puppet Bull S. has the "solution" with his technically unmanageable 50% taxpayer funded unreliable unstable renewable rubbish.


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Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:24pm:
crocodile wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:51pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.



Trump is trying to equal Chinese tax rates where they have no
health and safety and get paid a bowl of rice per day.
That's not going to work for a society like ours.


Company tax is a strangler of productivity and hence an albatross on real wages growth. You have things arse a peeky.

Just a backdoor tax on wages anyway with double the deadweight loss.



Life in America is really tough -
it's dog eat dog and it will get worse under Trump.
Is that how you want Australia to be?

Actually its getting better but don't let facts effect your views.
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crocodile wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:51pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:46pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:43pm:
A good start would be lower the company tax rate to align with competing countries, making HD parts should be a boutique industry we could do very well in but don't tell BS Shorten.



Lowering company taxes around the world is a race to the bottom.
It means workers will have to pay more taxes to keep our
system of hospitals, schools & social security.
Either that or we'll become more of a dog eat dog society.

Trump doesn't realise the harm he'll do to other countries who'll have to follow suit.

And Keeping high company takes rates does what ?
People like you never offer a counter view just bleat rubbish.



Trump is trying to equal Chinese tax rates where they have no
health and safety and get paid a bowl of rice per day.
That's not going to work for a society like ours.


Company tax is a strangler of productivity and hence an albatross on real wages growth. You have things arse a peeky.

Just a backdoor tax on wages anyway with double the deadweight loss.

The lack of logic is astounding, no point having a high company tax rate if business is slowing down that is diminishing returns. We need to be at least globally competitive ..... lefties seem to forget this country was built on foreign investment.
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Reply #27 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 7:32am
 
RSF,

the malingering WELFARE dependent Lefties don't care about jobs as they have their permanent positions at CentreLink.

They have no idea how their unproductive wasteful WELFARE will be paid for and they don't care just so long as it NEVER stops.

Trump's speech to the Nation was absolutely MAGNIFICENT.

USA is advancing in leaps and bounds with jobs galore and companies moving to USA from all over the world even from China.

Of course the local Greeny drongos are horrified at the idea that Australia will follow the USA success.
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Reply #28 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 7:38am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:52pm:
Grendel wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:39pm:
lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad


I guess the Kansas closure was their fault as well. Nothing to do with sales at all. Wink

no...  its all the Conservatives fault LW and RW Conservatives...  nothing to do with sales, the bottom line or cheaper labour overseas etc, etc, etc...

Climate Change...  all the Conservatives Fault.

Inflation Conservatives fault.

Stagnant wage growth Conservatives fault...

Pregnant women Conservatives fault...

The list is practically endless. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


So what have the conservatives got to offer the battler ?

Trickle down effect ? Cheesy LOL



LOL
You are clueless
keep pumping out the propaganda...
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Reply #29 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 7:39am
 
juliar wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 7:32am:
RSF,

the malingering WELFARE dependent Lefties don't care about jobs as they have their permanent positions at CentreLink.

They have no idea how their unproductive wasteful WELFARE will be paid for and they don't care just so long as it NEVER stops.

Trump's speech to the Nation was absolutely MAGNIFICENT.

USA is advancing in leaps and bounds with jobs galore and companies moving to USA from all over the world even from China.

Of course the local Greeny drongos are horrified at the idea that Australia will follow the USA success.

NO ONE IN THE RIGHT MIND WANTS TO LIVE OFF WELFARE PARTICULARLY THE PITIFUL NEWSTART THAT ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT?
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Reply #30 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:27am
 
Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

bugger YOUR ALL DICKS  HARLY DAVISION ANNOUNCED LAST YEAR IT WILL CLOSE TWO PLANTS ONE IN THE US AND ONE IN AUSTRALIA BECAUSE THE HD BIKES ARE OUT OF VOUGE AT THE MOMENT!

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jobsun groth errr keep Australia working just above poverty line
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Reply #32 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:44am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


Have you been re-tooled?



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Reply #33 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:46am
 
We got all the high calibre rtards joining us today  Grin
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Reply #34 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:06am
 
Grebdel,

you are correct in what you say but WELFARE covers a lot more than just the Centrelink wage with things such as Medicare, NDIS, and a whole host of other lurks and perks that the ISLAMICS in particular exploit shamelessly.

What about that sheila on Australia Day that wants to burn down Australia - well she gets an allowance which amounts to WELFARE.

And when the Greenies employ their Rent A Crowds in their HATE Australia protests who pays for this - the taxpayers I reckon.

and WELFARE is a HORRENDOUS UNSUSTAINABLE EXPENSE!!!!





Budget 2017: Welfare is the elephant, whale and woolly mammoth in the room
by David Coleman May 1 2017 at 11:00 PM Updated May 1 2017 at 11:00 PM

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Even a small improvement in efficiency of welfare could yield big savings for the government. Erin Jonasson

So – the budget. It comes at a time when the economic consensus of recent decades is under attack. Shallow economic populism is on the march. Politicians talk about companies as if they are evildoers that need to be constrained – rather than job creators that employ close to 90 per cent of us. Tax increases are routinely described as "savings" – rather than laws that force people to pay more money. Much of our public debate is dominated by a vacuous assumption that everything would be OK – if only the government had more money.

Best to get back to basics. We can't succeed without economic growth. Economic growth doesn't just exist, it has to be earned. Government's economic role is limited, but important: create good conditions for investment, keep tax to a minimum, and don't make a mess of public finances. It doesn't sound that hard – but look at western Europe, where government ineptitude has turned once great economies into places of despair.

Spending is all about welfare

The budget is about revenue and spending – and spending is all about welfare. It is massive, and dwarfs everything else. According to December's MYEFO statement, welfare spending will represent more than 40 per cent of real federal expenditure in 2016-17. It's more than double what we spend on health, about five times what we spend on education, and about six times what we spend on defence.

Big increases in welfare spending are forecast, with it reaching $185 billion by 2019-20. By that point it will be more than 42 per cent of real federal expenditure. If you exclude interest payments by government, welfare spending will be more than 44 per cent of real expenses by 2019-20.

Welfare spending isn't just the elephant in the room: it's the elephant, the whale, and the woolly mammoth. According to the OECD, Australia's spending on social programs increased from 10 per cent of GDP in 1980 to 19 per cent in 2016 – almost doubling as a proportion of the economy. That's a pretty extraordinary statistic, and it's forecast to increase even further.

1 per cent goes a long way

It goes without saying that we should support those in genuine need through the social welfare system. But the need must be genuine. If 1 per cent of the welfare budget could be saved through better compliance measures, that would be $7 billion over the forward estimates. A 2 per cent saving would be $14 billion – far greater than any saving that could conceivably be achieved in any other area of government.

So welfare compliance initiatives that aim to identify fraud and other errors in the system are critical. The spending is so immense that recouping even a tiny proportion makes a substantial difference to overall expenditure.

We also need to take a hard look at the federal bureaucracy. Mission creep affects all organisations, but none more than government. We need to constantly ask whether the government is structured as efficiently as it should be. Do we really need every single department that we currently have? I've argued before that we need to look at ways to consolidate the federal bureaucracy, and continue to believe that this should be an area of focus.

Let's talk revenue

Then there is the other side: revenue.

December's MYEFO statement says that government revenue will increase by an average annual rate of 6.9 per cent between 2016-17 and 2019-20. It's not as much as it sounds, because you have to factor in the impact of inflation and an increasing population. But how many businesses would be unhappy with a 6.9 per cent annual revenue growth rate? Not many. So when you hear the inevitable calls for tax increases described with faux sincerity as "responsible savings", keep that in mind. Government revenue is actually forecast to grow at about 7 per cent per year. We don't need more revenue – we just need to live within our means.

It's an edgy world at present, and we need to keep our heads. Things that have always been true are still true. Governments shouldn't spend more than they receive; tax increases hurt economies; business not government is the real generator of national wealth. These realities matter little to the glib populist. But for a responsible government at budget time, they should be guiding lights.

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Reply #35 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:56pm
 
Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:46am:
We got all the high calibre rtards joining us today  Grin


Yep, you're the most rtarded of them all.......
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Reply #36 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


Have you been re-tooled?



You like little tools don't you little pecca......especially those little sausages...... Grin


Is that why I find myself attracted to you?

Ah!
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Reply #37 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:59pm
 
Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:46am:
We got all the high calibre rtards joining us today  Grin


Smell the fear    Grin
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Reply #38 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


Have you been re-tooled?



You like little tools don't you little pecca......especially those little sausages...... Grin


Is that why I find myself attracted to you?

Ah!


Ha Hah........so you are.....
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Reply #39 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:04pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


Have you been re-tooled?



You like little tools don't you little pecca......especially those little sausages...... Grin


Is that why I find myself attracted to you?

Ah!


Ha Hah........so you are.....


You're irresistible.

Everyone here is attracted to you, Fuzz.

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Actually greggy only likes peach fuzz on parts. Wink
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Well, we now know what you refer to us as, don't we?

...

So we're all ***ts, it's just that some are 'bigger' than others eh littlepecca?

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Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Well, we now know what you refer to us as, don't we?

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png

So we're all ***ts, it's just that some are 'bigger' than others eh littlepecca?



Some are smellier, too.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Well, we now know what you refer to us as, don't we?

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png

So we're all ***ts, it's just that some are 'bigger' than others eh littlepecca?



Some are smellier, too.



But we're all ***ts all the same......eh littlepecca......

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Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Well, we now know what you refer to us as, don't we?

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png

So we're all ***ts, it's just that some are 'bigger' than others eh littlepecca?



Some are smellier, too.



But we're all ***ts all the same......eh littlepecca......

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png


Some smellier, and bigger, than others.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:19pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Well, we now know what you refer to us as, don't we?

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png

So we're all ***ts, it's just that some are 'bigger' than others eh littlepecca?



Some are smellier, too.



But we're all ***ts all the same......eh littlepecca......

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png


Some smellier, and bigger, than others.



But we're still all ***ts eh little pecca.......

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bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:27am:
Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

bugger YOUR ALL DICKS  HARLY DAVISION ANNOUNCED LAST YEAR IT WILL CLOSE TWO PLANTS ONE IN THE US AND ONE IN AUSTRALIA BECAUSE THE HD BIKES ARE OUT OF VOUGE AT THE MOMENT!

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Nobody is buying Harleys as nobody can afford them with the lowest wage growth in history , household savings are languishing around 3% compared to 10% in 2013 , nobody with any sense is spending with this economy and confidence killing government in
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Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Nobody is buying Harleys as nobody can afford them with the lowest wage growth in history , household savings are languishing around 3% compared to 10% in 2013 , nobody with any sense is spending with this economy and confidence killing government in


NO ones buying them in AMERyou tosser, Sale here are ok you are a real dick

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bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:55pm:
Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Nobody is buying Harleys as nobody can afford them with the lowest wage growth in history , household savings are languishing around 3% compared to 10% in 2013 , nobody with any sense is spending with this economy and confidence killing government in


NO ones buying them in AMERyou tosser, Sale here are ok you are a real dick

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Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Nobody is buying Harleys as nobody can afford them with the lowest wage growth in history , household savings are languishing around 3% compared to 10% in 2013 , nobody with any sense is spending with this economy and confidence killing government in


If nobody was buying Harleys the company would go bust and close down, they're not closing down so we can say you're posting bullshit again
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Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Nobody is buying Harleys as nobody can afford them with the lowest wage growth in history , household savings are languishing around 3% compared to 10% in 2013 , nobody with any sense is spending with this economy and confidence killing government in


If nobody was buying Harleys the company would go bust and close down, they're not closing down so we can say you're posting bullshit again


Wink Wink Thats the only thing the tosser post's

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"Harley-Davidson retains its position as the number one road bike seller in Australia with 4433 sales in the first half of 2017, although this was down 5.4 per cent compared to the same period in 2016."

Down 239 sales.

What was the whole year figure?

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Motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle (ATV) and scooter sales have risen almost one per cent this year, with almost 80,000 sold in Australia between January and September.

The 79,949 sales are 0.8 per cent higher than in the same period last year.

Releasing the motorcycle, ATV and scooter sales figures for the period 1 January to 30 September 2013, Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) Chief Executive Tony Weber said road motorcycle sales remained steady, increasing by 0.8 per cent (31,401 sold); however off-road motorcycles were up by 10.7 per cent (26,628 sold).

ATV and scooter sales decreased 7.5 and 11.9 per cent, respectively, compared to the same period in 2012 - 14,968 ATVs and 6,952 scooters sold.

"Honda led sales of road motorcycles and ATVs for the period. Yamaha led off-road motorcycle sales and Piaggio led scooter sales," Mr Weber said.

Honda sold 6,299 new motorcycles, followed by Harley-Davidson with 5,779 and Kawasaki with 5,211. Victory Motorcycles continued its steady progress towards increased market share, selling 364 units—a 12.7 per cent increase on the same period in 2012.

Yamaha increased their sales of off-road motorcycles by 9 per cent (7,811 sold) compared to the same period last year. They were followed by Honda, who saw steady growth (13.5 per cent) with 6,356 units sold. KTM and Suzuki came third and fourth, respectively, in the off-road segment with 4,499 and 3,390 sold.

While Honda continued to lead the ATV sales race, their sales volume contracted in comparison to the same period last year—down 11.1 per cent, with 3,772 sold. They were followed by Yamaha (3,033), Polaris (2,904) and Suzuki (1,478). 

BRP again experienced significant growth (1,283 units)—up 24.6 per cent compared to the same time in 2012.

In a still slowing scooter market, Piaggio sales grew to 1,150 scooters—up 3.3 per cent from the same period last year. Honda was the second top scooter seller, with 859 sold.

Across all segments, Honda was the leading volume manufacturer with 17,286 units sold. They were followed by Yamaha (14,133), Kawasaki (8,501) and Suzuki (7,669).


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Five years later 4433 jobsun groth
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lol
Goober...  you cant equate product with jobsun growth... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #57 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 4:47pm
 
jobsun groth keep working something or other
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Reply #58 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 4:51pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:07pm:
bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:27am:
Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

bugger YOUR ALL DICKS  HARLY DAVISION ANNOUNCED LAST YEAR IT WILL CLOSE TWO PLANTS ONE IN THE US AND ONE IN AUSTRALIA BECAUSE THE HD BIKES ARE OUT OF VOUGE AT THE MOMENT!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The dopey dim witted lefties prefer companies going broke they think companies that don't make a profit should stay in business


and you lot prefer that all job creating renewable energy industries disappear. jobsungroth as long as it's only the jobs that you lot endorse.
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Reply #59 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 4:55pm
 
LW is showing why he is LW and the LostSnail is riding his electric scooter. What intellectual power houses.
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Reply #60 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:09pm
 
Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Nobody is buying Harleys as nobody can afford them with the lowest wage growth in history , household savings are languishing around 3% compared to 10% in 2013 , nobody with any sense is spending with this economy and confidence killing government in

Yet they are the biggest selling brand ...... oops sorry..... I gave you a fact again Smiley
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Reply #61 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:28pm
 
How to go deaf - ride a Harley.
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Reply #62 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:37pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:19pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Well, we now know what you refer to us as, don't we?

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png

So we're all ***ts, it's just that some are 'bigger' than others eh littlepecca?



Some are smellier, too.



But we're all ***ts all the same......eh littlepecca......

https://s25.postimg.org/ruq5ajw9r/Screen_Shot_2017-12-06_at_1.49.23_pm.png


Some smellier, and bigger, than others.



But we're still all ***ts eh little pecca.......

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wow... Shocked
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Reply #63 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:39pm
 
Not much happening in Australia since 2013 , everything going down , except the cost of living
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Reply #64 - Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:02am
 
Its time wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:39pm:
Not much happening in Australia since 2013 , everything going down , except the cost of living

I see just more bleating but Harley Davidsons still out selling other brands ? Things can not be that bad ....... not a big fan of the bikes but many love the tough image it provides.
Sorry being factual again ..... I know you like protecting your delusions.
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Reply #65 - Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:07am
 
juliar wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:28pm:
How to go deaf - ride a Harley.

I don't mind the sound its the price that puts me off.
Prefer trail bikes which can be even noisier with the wing-ding-ding two strokes Smiley
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Reply #66 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 9:57am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:13pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:44pm:
All of the productive manufacturing jobs are disappearing under the conservatives only to be replaced with unproductive coffee shop and real estate agent jobs bought and all bought and paid for by massive amounts of debt Sad

Yep jobsungroth under the libbos Sad



Is't it being 're-tooled' to manufacture ELECTRIC vehicles by that Indian industrialist......dickhead?  Grin


That probably won't happen once he realizes that Turdball and co are the party of Luddites who don't believe in renewable energy and the jobs that can be created from it Sad



I think you mean that adopting renewables that have little to no effect on the environment, can not provide base load energy (as SA) and cost a lot more ?
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Reply #67 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:34am
 
I read Harley are bringing out an electric bike.
They'd have to put a boom box in it, it won't be a Harley without the roar.
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Reply #68 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 3:13am
 
America will once again be America without a Trump
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Reply #69 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 11:38am
 
Marla wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 3:13am:
America will once again be America without a Trump


It is still America even with a Trump. Roll Eyes
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Reply #70 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:59am
 
Harley-Davidson's success is by and large a Baby Boomer phenomenon. Maybe they can keep the romance going outside of the USA, particularly in places like Asia, but Millennials in the USA care [fuhk]all about their bikes.
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Reply #71 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 3:34pm
 
AiA wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:59am:
Harley-Davidson's success is by and large a Baby Boomer phenomenon. Maybe they can keep the romance going outside of the USA, particularly in places like Asia, but Millennials in the USA care [fuhk]all about their bikes.


bunch of softcork poofters...  Roll Eyes
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