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Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am
 
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 12:11pm
 
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

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Vic, just to assist us with a practical example/illustration ~

Is that okay? 

Your original post is intact.  It's the post ~ opening post above this one and is intact.

Huh




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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
No it's not alright. It's vandalism, but you seem to be OK with it, so what does that make you?
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Reply #3 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 1:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

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Vic, just to assist us with a practical example/illustration ~

Is that okay

Your original post is intact.  It's the post ~ opening post above this one and is intact.

Huh







Vic, just to assist us with a practical example/illustration of what is NOT OK.

This is only done for educational purposes as an example of what NOT to do.
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Reply #4 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 1:20pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 12:58pm:
No it's not alright. It's vandalism, but you seem to be OK with it, so what does that make you?


Bogarde, please read again.  I am asking Vic if my interpretation of his post is correct.

Have you been hassling the GMods via PM over this?
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Reply #5 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 1:53pm
 
It is good that this is being discussed.

Firstly, I'm not entirely innocent about this. I have occasionally altered the text in the original post, but not without some kind of clear indication that it has been altered.

Practices I consider acceptable:

* Removing irrelevant text - If this is done, it must be clearly shown such as using an ellipsis or inserting (snip). This must never be done if the meaning of the remaining text is substantively altered.
* Deleting paragraphs without marking, but only at the top or bottom.
* Deleting older quoted text without any marking. Space limitations may require this.

Practices that are not acceptable IMO:

* Removing context to alter the meaning of text. Some posters have a habit of quoting phrases or parts of sentences out of context and then using this to construct strawman arguments.
* Attributing remarks to someone without linking to the original text. That could include claiming that someone else said something (this is not always true).
* Wholesale editing of text inside quote tags.
* Using color tags to post responses inside quoted text. Break up the text using quote tags, that's what they are for.
* Posting articles from outside the forum and editing the text of those articles with substantive alterations.

Practices that are dubious:

* Copying and pasting articles in general. This may be a breach of copyright.
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Reply #6 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:34pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic



Is that okay? 




Yes.

You may also only quote the part of the post you are answering to, from the start to the end of the sentence/statement but you can not change it. The original posters words must be left intact. Yes I saw what you did there.

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Reply #7 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:42pm
 
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic


That is silly Vic - it is stupid to continually re post 50 lines of text plus however many replies were before it just to comment on one sentence.

We routinely see 20 windows in windows all which could contain this imaginary context.

If done responsibly it is a good thing to do, it is saying this is what I am commenting about and this is the reason.
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Reply #8 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:44pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic


That is silly Vic - it is stupid to continually re post 50 lines of text plus however many replies were before it just to comment on one sentence.

We routinely see 20 windows in windows all which could contain this imaginary context.

If done responsibly it is a good thing to do, it is saying this is what I am commenting about and this is the reason.


See my post above yours. You may cut it down to the part you are you are replying to, as I did, but you cannot change the words.

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Reply #9 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:50pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic


That is silly Vic - it is stupid to continually re post 50 lines of text plus however many replies were before it just to comment on one sentence.

We routinely see 20 windows in windows all which could contain this imaginary context.

If done responsibly it is a good thing to do, it is saying this is what I am commenting about and this is the reason.


See my post above yours. You may cut it down to the part you are you are replying to, as I did, but you cannot change the words.



Are you Vic Setanta or have I missed something ?
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Reply #10 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:54pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic


That is silly Vic - it is stupid to continually re post 50 lines of text plus however many replies were before it just to comment on one sentence.

We routinely see 20 windows in windows all which could contain this imaginary context.

If done responsibly it is a good thing to do, it is saying this is what I am commenting about and this is the reason.


See my post above yours. You may cut it down to the part you are you are replying to, as I did, but you cannot change the words.



Are you Vic Setanta or have I missed something ?


I'm answering your question as I see it. You may not misrepresent what another poster has posted by editing their posts, cutting sentences/statements short/add stuff etc to misrepresent what they have posted, leave their words intact.
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Reply #11 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:11pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic


That is silly Vic - it is stupid to continually re post 50 lines of text plus however many replies were before it just to comment on one sentence.

We routinely see 20 windows in windows all which could contain this imaginary context.

If done responsibly it is a good thing to do, it is saying this is what I am commenting about and this is the reason.


See my post above yours. You may cut it down to the part you are you are replying to, as I did, but you cannot change the words.



Are you Vic Setanta or have I missed something ?


I'm answering your question as I see it. You may not misrepresent what another poster has posted by editing their posts, cutting sentences/statements short/add stuff etc to misrepresent what they have posted, leave their words intact.


I would never do any of those things but you are not in sync with what Vic proclaimed. Do you trump Vic or does Vic's proclamation stand ?
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Reply #12 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:18pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Vic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:04am:
G'Day All,

Please do not change another poster's reply or add/delete to their post within that poster's  posting "window"     By all means use the strikethrough function if you wish to highlight some aspect of their post , but leave the original post intact.   It may not be a biggy to some  but it can be misleading in that it changes the context of that poster's  frame of reply and in some cases may take that poster's "argument" of the topic in another direction to other posters.

Thankyou

Vic


That is silly Vic - it is stupid to continually re post 50 lines of text plus however many replies were before it just to comment on one sentence.

We routinely see 20 windows in windows all which could contain this imaginary context.

If done responsibly it is a good thing to do, it is saying this is what I am commenting about and this is the reason.


See my post above yours. You may cut it down to the part you are you are replying to, as I did, but you cannot change the words.



Are you Vic Setanta or have I missed something ?


I'm answering your question as I see it. You may not misrepresent what another poster has posted by editing their posts, cutting sentences/statements short/add stuff etc to misrepresent what they have posted, leave their words intact.


I would never do any of those things but you are not in sync with what Vic proclaimed. Do you trump Vic or does Vic's proclamation stand ?


I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. For why? I do not know but how I have explained it to you is what I see him meaning. Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you, it took me a lot to get it through some members heads when this behaviour was rife. One of them now just strikes out whole posts just to be pedantic and show his childish rebellious streak even though he knows what I've said. You may do the same if you feel the need but I think I've been clear. Do not misrepresent posters by editing their posts/words.
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Reply #13 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:21pm
 
Am I a fool for seeing the good in mankind?
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Reply #14 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:22pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Am I a fool ?


Yes you are!

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Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Am I a fool for seeing the good in mankind?


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Setanta wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Am I a fool for seeing the good in mankind?


Yes you are!

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Reply #17 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm
 
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Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.

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Reply #18 - Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
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Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



That should be...

Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you, it took me a lot to get it through some members heads when this behaviour was rife.


Leave the whole sentence/statement intact. Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.
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Reply #19 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 11:06am
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



Look again.  What I quoted
does
begin and end with a punctuation mark.
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Reply #20 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:10pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 11:06am:
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



Look again.  What I quoted
does
begin and end with a punctuation mark.


Roll Eyes But it's not the end of the sentence.
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Reply #21 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:15pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 11:06am:
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



Look again.  What I quoted
does
begin and end with a punctuation mark.


Roll Eyes But it's not the end of the sentence.


Correct:

Hence, you can see the comma.

Quote:
Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


What I quoted began with a punctuation mark (capital letter) and ended with another (a comma.)

Is that okay?

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Reply #22 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:15pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 11:06am:
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



Look again.  What I quoted
does
begin and end with a punctuation mark.


Roll Eyes But it's not the end of the sentence.


Correct:

Hence, you can see the comma.

Quote:
Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


What I quoted began with a punctuation mark (capital letter) and ended with another (a comma.)

Is that okay?

Huh


Don't be a dick, you know exactly what I said, you even said I made it clear. Why are you playing dense now? Trying to outdo Greg in pedantry? What do you hope to achieve? Perhaps you should read Quote:
Leave the whole sentence/statement intact.
this again. I'm sure you're smart enough to comprehend it. I'm not playing this game any more.

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Reply #23 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:23pm
 
You call it a game?  This is what you said:

Quote:
Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


That is exactly what I did.
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Reply #24 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:32pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



I have a clear understanding of what Sentanta is saying but not sure that it isn't very different to what Vic said.

Also not sure that either has the authority to make a binding ruling on the topic or if so which one ?

IMO it isn't a problem unless people start changing the meaning of others posts.


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Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:23pm:
You call it a game?  This is what you said:

Quote:
Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


That is exactly what I did.


Leave the whole sentence/statement intact.
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Reply #26 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:37pm
 
So.....what did you mean when you posted:

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Reply #27 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:47pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:32pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Quote:
Perhaps he wasn't clear enough for you,


Or for me, and that's why I asked at Reply # 1.  His explanation was as mysterious/ambiguous as his explanation about avoiding the word filter.  You have now made it very clear.



I have a clear understanding of what Sentanta is saying but not sure that it isn't very different to what Vic said.

Also not sure that either has the authority to make a binding ruling on the topic or if so which one ?

IMO it isn't a problem unless people start changing the meaning of others posts.


I've suspended a number of people for doing it over my time as a mod and as I give the reason and length of suspension in a part of the forum for all mods to read, including fd and have never been pulled up for it I'd suggest therefore I have that authority.

I have no idea why it's so hard for people to type their own words and their need to misrepresent other posters by changing theirs. I also have no idea why people would think that it's a bad idea to have such a ruling.

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Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:37pm:
So.....what did you mean when you posted:

Quote:
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Reply #29 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:52pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:37pm:
So.....what did you mean when you posted:

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Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


Leave the whole sentence/statement intact.


Why did you say this?

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Reply #30 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:55pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:37pm:
So.....what did you mean when you posted:

Quote:
Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


Leave the whole sentence/statement intact.


Why did you say this?

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Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.



Leave the whole sentence/statement intact. You know what I meant, stop being a dick.
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Reply #31 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:59pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 9:37pm:
So.....what did you mean when you posted:

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Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


Leave the whole sentence/statement intact.


Why did you say this?

Quote:
Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.



Leave the whole sentence/statement intact. Get over it. Deal with it. Or perhaps try it out.
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Reply #32 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:01pm
 
Jayzuz!

So this (something you said, not me) is false?

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Why not tell us why you said that?

A simple, uncomplicated enquiry Setanta, yet you are avoiding responding directly to it.

Has me stuffed.

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Reply #33 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:01pm:
Jayzuz!

So this (something you said, not me) is false?

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Begin and end on punctuation/paragraph, if you like.


Why not tell us why you said that?

A simple, uncomplicated enquiry Setanta, yet you are avoiding responding directly to it.

Has me stuffed.

Huh



No, it's you playing silly buggers. Any reasonable person would understand exactly what I said. You chose to make it a pedantic game. So again, don't be a dick. If you think I have not been clear enough, go edit posts the way you see fit but don't cry if the results are not to your liking.

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Reply #34 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:12pm
 
Yet again.  Why did you post this?

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if you like.


(My highlighting.)

That's what you posted.

Is that not what we can do, even though you said we could?

If so, just say so.

It is what it is....a simple question, not a hand grenade.
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Reply #35 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Yet again.  Why did you post this?

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if you like.


(My highlighting.)

That's what you posted.

Is that not what we can do, even though you said we could?

If so, just say so.

It is what it is....a simple question, not a hand grenade.


Did you study English as well as Law?

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Definition of if you like
1 —used to agree politely to a suggestion or request "Could we stay a little longer?" "Yes, if you like."
2 chiefly British —used to suggest a possible way of describing or thinking about something The experience was, if you like, a glimpse of the future.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/if%20you%20like
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Reply #36 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:20pm
 
Rubbish.  Sheer piss weak rubbish.

Good night.
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Reply #37 - Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Rubbish.  Sheer piss weak rubbish.

Good night.


Finally.

edit: I have no idea why what I posted as a reply to what I meant by "if you like" is "Rubbish.  Sheer piss weak rubbish." That is exactly how I meant it. The only explanation I can see is that you don't want to accept it. It is, if you like, Aussie waving a white flag.

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Reply #38 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 2:27pm
 
So it's OK if I remove greggarypeccary's vandalism wherever & whenever I come across it?

I mean to say, they clean graffiti off walls don't they?
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Reply #39 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:33pm
 
I have seen people disingenuously say they use the strike through form of censorship to just highlight what they wish to respond to yet they strike through whole posts and make no comment in response.   Just a quote of a post which is all struck through.    Which makes this a lie.

The only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words and I cannot see how this is a positive thing.

Nor can I see why it is condoned and/or encouraged.   It is not a form of discussion as all it serves to do is stop discussion dead in its tracks and sideline in to disruption and derailment of threads.

It's a totally ignorant and negative thing.
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Reply #40 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:41pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
I have seen people disingenuously say they use the strike through form of censorship to just highlight what they wish to respond to yet they strike through whole posts and make no comment in response.   Just a quote of a post which is all struck through.    Which makes this a lie.

The only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words and I cannot see how this is a positive thing.

Nor can I see why it is condoned and/or encouraged.   It is not a form of discussion as all it serves to do is stop discussion dead in its tracks and sideline in to disruption and derailment of threads.

It's a totally ignorant and negative thing.


I am pretty sure strikethrough was mandated for Gregg, cos like the juvenile attention seeking dishonest troll he is, he was incapable of editing anyone's post to respond to pertinent parts without changing the meaning and misrepresenting what some one had posted.

But yes, it is lazy and is just a gain say without any effort at thought or rebuttal. 
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Reply #41 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:42pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
I have seen people disingenuously say they use the strike through form of censorship to just highlight what they wish to respond to yet they strike through whole posts and make no comment in response.   Just a quote of a post which is all struck through.    Which makes this a lie.

The only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words and I cannot see how this is a positive thing.

Nor can I see why it is condoned and/or encouraged.   It is not a form of discussion as all it serves to do is stop discussion dead in its tracks and sideline in to disruption and derailment of threads.

It's a totally ignorant and negative thing.


Yes, let's fret the really serious issues like using the strike through facility, and ignore (as you have) the really petty issues like outrageous and totally unacceptable doxxing here.

And yes, I do use the strike through facility to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words, just like you do yet far more obviously with your passive aggressive and very negative posts.
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Reply #42 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 4:01pm
 
Aussie my understanding of Feedback is to give FEEDBACK.  Not to spend time trolling and attacking other posters regarding their FEEDBACK opinions nor about something not relevant to this topic.

I gave my opinion on "Changing other poster's replies" so perhaps you too could stick to that topic and not make things personal against other posters?  At LEAST in FEEDBACK!!

Feedback should be free from personal attacks.  End of.

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Reply #43 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 4:07pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 4:01pm:
Aussie my understanding of Feedback is to give FEEDBACK.  Not to spend time trolling and attacking other posters regarding their FEEDBACK opinions.

I gave my opinion on "Changing other poster's replies" so perhaps you too could stick to that topic and not make things personal against other posters.  At LEAST in FEEDBACK!!



And I am giving my opinion on your opinion.  Your objection is that the only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words.

I am saying that you do that with words, just like we all do and should on a political forum if we disagree with that poster's thoughts and words.
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Reply #44 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:07pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
I have seen people disingenuously say they use the strike through form of censorship to just highlight what they wish to respond to yet they strike through whole posts and make no comment in response.   Just a quote of a post which is all struck through.    Which makes this a lie.

The only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words and I cannot see how this is a positive thing.

Nor can I see why it is condoned and/or encouraged.   It is not a form of discussion as all it serves to do is stop discussion dead in its tracks and sideline in to disruption and derailment of threads.

It's a totally ignorant and negative thing.


It's either that or they will be editing your posts to misrepresent. The point of it being that the reader can see what was originally posted, they can make up their minds about the way/reason a person edits the post. Rather than complaining, people should be happy their words are still there to be read by other posters and their words are not changed to misrepresent what they said. In an ideal world this would not be necessary but we have some posters that just love to misrepresent others they disagree with rather than have a rational discussion.
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Reply #45 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 11:07pm
 
I want the moderators' feedback on this.

Here is the relevant part of my post (irrelevant context in a long post has been deleted for the sake of brevity):

Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
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Your habit of selectively quote parts of posts and deleting questions you find inconvenient is proof enough that you refuse to discuss inconvenient topics:

Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 8:24am:
Tell me again which is the only major party opposing a Federal anti-corruption commission?


What's the matter, Liberal fanboi, don't like having the Liberals' corruption exposed to scrutiny?
[snip]


Here is what was quoted in lee's response - again, irrelevant context deleted:

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
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Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
Your habit of selectively quote parts of posts


If they are the only part of a post I disagree with; why  paste it all?

Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
What's the matter, Liberal fanboi, don't like having the Liberals' corruption exposed to scrutiny?

[snip]


As can be seen here, lee has chosen to delete parts of sentences and has altered substantially the meaning of the original text before responding. This is not an accident; he has done it before.

What are the moderators' views on this kind of posting conduct?
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Reply #46 - Mar 2nd, 2018 at 1:06am
 
Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 11:07pm:
I want the moderators' feedback on this.

Here is the relevant part of my post (irrelevant context in a long post has been deleted for the sake of brevity):

Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
[snip]
Your habit of selectively quote parts of posts and deleting questions you find inconvenient is proof enough that you refuse to discuss inconvenient topics:

Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 8:24am:
Tell me again which is the only major party opposing a Federal anti-corruption commission?


What's the matter, Liberal fanboi, don't like having the Liberals' corruption exposed to scrutiny?
[snip]


Here is what was quoted in lee's response - again, irrelevant context deleted:

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
[snip]
Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
Your habit of selectively quote parts of posts


If they are the only part of a post I disagree with; why  paste it all?

Bam wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
What's the matter, Liberal fanboi, don't like having the Liberals' corruption exposed to scrutiny?

[snip]


As can be seen here, lee has chosen to delete parts of sentences and has altered substantially the meaning of the original text before responding. This is not an accident; he has done it before.

What are the moderators' views on this kind of posting conduct?


I think it's been made clear Bam. Don't change sentences, if that has been the case, post "this is what it was" and "this is what it is now" and send it to a mod with a link to the posts. I have no inclination to decipher your post above.

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Reply #47 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:32pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
I have seen people disingenuously say they use the strike through form of censorship to just highlight what they wish to respond to yet they strike through whole posts and make no comment in response.   Just a quote of a post which is all struck through.    Which makes this a lie.

The only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words and I cannot see how this is a positive thing.

Nor can I see why it is condoned and/or encouraged.   It is not a form of discussion as all it serves to do is stop discussion dead in its tracks and sideline in to disruption and derailment of threads.

It's a totally ignorant and negative thing.


It's either that or they will be editing your posts to misrepresent.
The point of it being that the reader can see what was originally posted, they can make up their minds about the way/reason a person edits the post. Rather than complaining, people should be happy their words are still there to be read by other posters
and their words are not changed to misrepresent what they said. In an ideal world this would not be necessary but we have some posters that just love to misrepresent others they disagree with rather than have a rational discussion.



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I wholeheartedly agree.......
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(Would the above quoting technique be acceptable, making the part I am agreeing to stand out amongst the "other" text, while leaving the "other" text there to be readable & interpreted by subsequent readers?

Is that in the spirit of your posts)

PS.....I hope you concur, that this technique can also be used, because I cant get my head around using the strike-through, for IMHO it shows complete disdain for the original poster, & extremely disrespectful when used like GrPecca does. I know I'm not alone in that opinion.

Whatever.......I will comply to whatever is acceptable to yourself & the powers that be, as I wish to remain in good standing.


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Reply #48 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:53pm
 
Panther wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:32pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
I have seen people disingenuously say they use the strike through form of censorship to just highlight what they wish to respond to yet they strike through whole posts and make no comment in response.   Just a quote of a post which is all struck through.    Which makes this a lie.

The only reason to use the strike through form of censorship is to try to negate, demean and diminish another poster's thoughts and words and I cannot see how this is a positive thing.

Nor can I see why it is condoned and/or encouraged.   It is not a form of discussion as all it serves to do is stop discussion dead in its tracks and sideline in to disruption and derailment of threads.

It's a totally ignorant and negative thing.


It's either that or they will be editing your posts to misrepresent.
The point of it being that the reader can see what was originally posted, they can make up their minds about the way/reason a person edits the post. Rather than complaining, people should be happy their words are still there to be read by other posters
and their words are not changed to misrepresent what they said. In an ideal world this would not be necessary but we have some posters that just love to misrepresent others they disagree with rather than have a rational discussion.



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I wholeheartedly agree.......
  Wink

(Would the above quoting technique be acceptable, making the part I am agreeing to stand out amongst the "other" text, while leaving the "other" text there to be readable & interpreted by subsequent readers?

Is that in the spirit of your posts)

PS.....I hope you concur, that this technique can also be used, because I cant get my head around using the strike-through, for IMHO it shows complete disdain for the original poster, & extremely disrespectful when used like GrPecca does. I know I'm not alone in that opinion.

Whatever.......I will comply to whatever is acceptable to yourself & the powers that be, as I wish to remain in good standing.


..



Of course if no text was changed or words omitted from sentences.
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Reply #49 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:38am
 
It just encourages the well known trolls who because they think defacing and defiling another poster's post by crossing out is a "clever" rather small minded childish way of trying to put down and annoy the other poster.

It is blatantly illegal as it illegally misquotes the other poster as the illegal defaced defiled post clearly says the previous poster posted this which they did not.

Doing the same thing to the trolls just inflames them to repeat their recidivist deliberately disruptive illegal behavior as they see it as a way of becoming the center of attention.

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