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Re: what is Patriotism
Reply #15 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:44am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

I only use bottled water for mixing photographic film development chemicals now

A bottle of water I bought from Woollies years ago had a strange fungus growing in it, the bottle was sitting around for days before ready for drinking, when new the water looked ok but the "fungus" grew and was quite visible after a while. I took it back to Woollies for a refund

Would fungus have vitamin B12?

If so, what you had there was a bottle of Vitamin & Mineral Water.

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Reply #16 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:16am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:13am:

If I was American I would be. Surely they have their own companies etc that can sponsor theirs.

You're an Australian, though.

Do you, as an Australian, object to the US Open using Jacob's Creek as an official sponsor?

You object to the Australian Open using foreign sponsorship, so surely you object to other countries doing it too.

What's that saying?

Oh yes, I remember: "what's good for the goose is good for the gander".

I already answered that gweggy...
having language difficulties today. hmmm?

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Reply #17 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:48am

get an adult to explain this to you gweggy...
Grendel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:13am:

You cant work that out for yourself?
Really?
If I was American I would be. Surely they have their own companies etc that can sponsor theirs.
Being Australian I don't see the need to sponsor another country's events. Plenty of Australian events need sponsorship.

As for the question... it seems Patriotism and Nationalism are terms many confuse.

Here is one explanation.

"Patriotism" is an attachment to or a love for a particular country. "Nationalism" can be the same sort of enthusiasm for a state or country, but it can extend into loyalty to the state. "Jingoism" is a tendency to justify unfairness and bad behavior with nationalist excuses.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131414 Gender:	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #18 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:59am Here's another explanation: "idiot: an utterly foolish or senseless person".
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #19 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 1:58pm Wassup gweggy discover I was telling the truth? Good... Told you I answered you the first time... Apology accepted.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39487	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #20 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 3:42pm Samual Johnson suggested that: Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel Personally, I've always felt he actually meant Nationalism or Jingoism. Diseases that all too many here suffer from.
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Re: what is Patriotism
Reply #21 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 4:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 3:42pm:

Samual Johnson suggested that:

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel

Personally, I've always felt he actually meant Nationalism or Jingoism. Diseases that all too many here suffer from. Roll Eyes

More likely he felt a borderless world is a better option Brian

But a patriot will defend their bordered country even if it's chock full of multiculturalists, lefty traitors, homosexuals, muslims and SBS international nutters

patriot |ˈpātrēət|
noun
1 a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #22 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:04pm I cant imagine the Yanks selling imported drinking water at the American Open... it would be like an insult to the local industry... just like it should be here..
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19611 Perth Gender:	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #23 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:52pm It is all about who has the most money Cods....It is Capitalism in the growing global economy where consumers are a commodity to be exploited!!! Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57149 Here Gender:	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #24 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 10:33am: but the water on sale at the nation’s premier sporting event is decidedly unpatriotic. It does not say anywhere what water is sold at the Boxing day test, it seems to be about a tennis game. ???
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Reply #25 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 8:05pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:52pm:

It is all about who has the most money Cods....It is Capitalism in the growing global economy where consumers are a commodity to be exploited!!!

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Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

of course I understand that phil..

but is it acceptable????....

can you see China selling aussie water at their international events...

I am buggered if I can...

water would be a huge seller at the AUst Open.... to me its the pits...because you can bet your dollar no other water is allowed to be sold...part of the contract.

and who drags loads of water into a day long event...you dont you buy it on site.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131414 Gender:	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #26 - Jan 16^th, 2018 at 8:11pm cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:04pm: I cant imagine the Yanks selling imported drinking water at the American Open.... They sell imported wine.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80152 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: what is Patriotism Reply #27 - Jan 17^th, 2018 at 12:05am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 8:11pm: cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:04pm: I cant imagine the Yanks selling imported drinking water at the American Open.... They sell imported wine. Imported cocaine to the private boxes......
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Re: what is Patriotism
Reply #28 - Jan 17^th, 2018 at 6:24am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 17^th, 2018 at 12:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 8:11pm:

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:04pm:

I cant imagine the Yanks selling imported drinking water at the American Open....

They sell imported wine.

Imported cocaine to the private boxes......

only the best from Colombo... Grin

can you explain to the resident troll ,

that I am sure the Yanks sold more than one brand of wine at the Open....

where as people dont usually ask the brand of water... Angry

he may go away if you do it.. thanks grap.

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Re: what is Patriotism
Reply #29 - Jan 17^th, 2018 at 7:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:18am:

\this ,isnt about sponsoring any bloody thing..

its about WATER DRINKING WATER COMING FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY>
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Okay, then.

In that case, yes : it is a bit strange.

I'll agree with you on that.

One thing's for sure, if you hadn't heard of G***** Water before you certainly have now.

Thanks to ACA, they're receiving millions of dollars worth of free advertising.

And that makes absolutely no difference to me I won't be buying the shyte.

Sponsorship deals with foreign companies for certain products isn't in question.

What's in question is water from China when so many warnings are out there about the dangers of foodstuffs from China & other Asian countries.

The baby formula is just one example.

Tennis Australia are sell outs.

And as for using Aussie wines & the US Open as a counter you're off beam.

I would put my trust in our wine or US wine or vice versa on any products made in both before I would ever trust Chinese foodstuffs.

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