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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Reply #30 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:31am Now the gecko troll is parroting to try to get noticed. What a follower. My God you should hear the bulldust coming out of the Greenies "leader" about BANNING Australia DAY on 2GB. Just more of the HATE Australia rubbish from Extremist Activist Greenies who are fired up after the SSM YES vote.
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Reply #31 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:36am

juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:31am:

Now the gecko troll is parroting to try to get noticed. What a follower.

My God you should hear the bulldust coming out of the Greenies "leader" about BANNING Australia DAY on 2GB.

Just more of the rubbish from Extremist Activist Greenies who are fired up after the SSM YES vote.

Offtopic. The topic of this thread is wage theft in the hospitality industry. Please keep to the topic of discussion.

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Reply #32 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:37am

juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:31am:

Now the gecko troll is parroting to try to get noticed. What a follower.

My God you should hear the bulldust coming out of the Greenies "leader" about BANNING Australia DAY on 2GB.

Just more of the HATE Australia rubbish from Extremist Activist Greenies who are fired up after the SSM YES vote.

Off topic nonsense.

"Announcing the campaign, McManus cited official figures indicating that at least 2.5 million workers are employed on a casual basis, without the rights or entitlements of permanent workers.

"She declared that the unions were seeking to include a definition of casual employment in the Fair Work Australia industrial legislation that would entitle casuals who work regular full-time shifts to gain permanency."

Not before time, too.

Well done Smiley

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Reply #33 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:41am

It is about casual employment and, believe it or not, hospitality is typically casual employment.

Always the bigger picture is more illuminating.

The unions are systematically attacking casual employment. Only the other day it was fruit picking.

Why thinking people ask ? The answer is just SO obvious.

There can be no doubt that the Chinese are paying the unions to force Australian businesses to go bankrupt and close so the Chinese can come in and buy up their bankrupt businesses and then employ ONLY Chinese workers!!!!!!

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131487 Gender:	Re: Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Reply #34 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:16pm juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:41am: There can be no doubt that the Chinese are paying the unions to force Australian businesses to go bankrupt and close so the Chinese can come in and buy up their bankrupt businesses and then employ ONLY Chinese workers!!!!!! Ah.
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Reply #35 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:28pm Oh gecko troll I am giving you the attention you like so much. Have a good day. But it is MUCH more satisfying to ACTUALLY contribute in a truthful meaningful way to the discussion of the actual TOPIC.
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Reply #36 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:44pm

juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:28pm:

Oh gecko troll I am giving you the attention you like so much.

Have a good day.

But it is MUCH more satisfying to ACTUALLY contribute in a truthful meaningful way to the discussion of the actual TOPIC.

No need, now.

You've uncovered the truth: there can be no doubt that the Chinese are paying the unions to force Australian businesses to go bankrupt and close so the Chinese can come in and buy up their bankrupt businesses and then employ ONLY Chinese workers.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Reply #37 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm Oh gecky you are such a parrot.
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Reply #38 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:52pm

juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

Oh gecky you are such a parrot.

You've convinced me, juliar.

The Chinese are paying the unions to force Australian businesses to go bankrupt and close so the Chinese can come in and buy up their bankrupt businesses and then employ ONLY Chinese workers.

I've seen the light.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Reply #39 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:22pm juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:28pm: troll I am Truth at last.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57150 Here Gender:	Re: Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Reply #40 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:33pm Wage Theft Rampant In Hospitality Industry Why wouldn't they even fair work is assisting them to not pay their employees correctly by cutting penalty rates.
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Reply #41 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:35pm

juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

It is about casual employment and, believe it or not, hospitality is typically casual employment.

Always the bigger picture is more illuminating.

The unions are systematically attacking casual employment. Only the other day it was fruit picking.

Why thinking people ask ? The answer is just SO obvious.

There can be no doubt that the Chinese are paying the unions to force Australian businesses to go bankrupt and close so the Chinese can come in and buy up their bankrupt businesses and then employ ONLY Chinese workers!!!!!!

Only the other day it was fruit picking.

In reality that was the result of Liberal policy to tax fruit pickers differently.

Had nothing to do with unions.

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Reply #42 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

juliar wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:57am:

See the gecko troll is back on the childish copy and Xing out drongo act.

The paw sowl hasn't got a clue about the topic but just wants to get noticed. Must be feeling ignored.

“Wage theft is rampant in hospitality. I’d like to see appropriate penalties for businesses who do the wrong thing she said.

“The stories everywhere on wage theft, be it small be it large, it’s so widely spread that it does give a sense that when there are businesses paying proper penalty rates, paying proper entitlements, superannuation, it does feel like that is the exception not the rule."

Unions are doing their bit.

The government needs to do more.

the "individual" is the sticking point.
governments and unions arent your mummy.
you arent a 5 yo.
you need, at some stage in life, to "stand on your own two feet"

So, using your "logic" (Jesus, I'm being very generous this morning), should we do away with our police force?

After all, all they do is enforce the law.

That's what we're talking about here: employers breaking the law.

the "law" as it operates in the workplace is simple.

if you want more money, become more valuable

Once again, you're not concentrating.

Nobody is asking for more money.

They're simply asking for the law to be obeyed.

Are you now going to add wage theft to the list of crimes you condone?

He already has many times.

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Reply #43 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:16am:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:53am:

Wage theft laws are very weak. Much stronger laws are needed.

Indeed.

The Unions are doing a good job, but the government needs to pull their weight too.

Your joking right - Liberal governments have always been about supporting the employer to pay as low a wage as they can get away with.

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Reply #44 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:58pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:16am:

Bam wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:53am:

Wage theft laws are very weak. Much stronger laws are needed.

Indeed.

The Unions are doing a good job, but the government needs to pull their weight too.

Your joking right - Liberal governments have always been about supporting the employer to pay as low a wage as they can get away with.

Time to change the government. This pack of do-nothing clowns wouldn't protect workers if their lives perks depended on it.

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