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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131477 Gender:	Re: Missile threat Hawaii a false alarm. Reply #15 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:40am Fuzzball wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 8:25am: Now this is LAUGHABLE...............how many poor bastards with bad hearts fell off the perch because an idiot made a "false alarm"........ The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........ No mention of a nuclear bomb.
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Reply #16 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:42am

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Are ballistic missiles Nuclear?

An intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) is a guided ballistic missile with a minimum range of 5,500 kilometres (3,400 mi) primarily designed for nuclear weapons delivery (delivering one or more thermonuclear warheads). ... Short and medium-range ballistic missiles are known collectively as theatre ballistic missiles.

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Reply #17 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:40am:

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

Now this is LAUGHABLE...............how many poor bastards with bad hearts fell off the perch because an idiot made a "false alarm"........

The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........

No mention of a nuclear bomb.

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180113134649-hawaii-missile-alert-false-al...

I guess you think a 'ballistic missile' is like a piñata; it contains lollies..............fool....

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95263 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Missile threat Hawaii a false alarm. Reply #18 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:46am Greggy, if a missile is heading towards you - you don't know if it has a nuclear weapon inside it or if it's just a test of dummy warhead. God you're thick.
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Reply #19 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:50am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:46am:

Greggy,
if a missile is heading towards you -

you don't know if it has a nuclear weapon inside it or
if it's just a test of dummy warhead.

That's correct.

Which is exactly why Fuzzball's comment was so stupid.

"The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........"

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Reply #20 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:46am:

Greggy,
if a missile is heading towards you -

you don't know if it has a nuclear weapon inside it or
if it's just a test of dummy warhead.

That's correct.

Which is exactly why Fuzzball's comment was so stupid.

"The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........"

Rubbish,
if you have an underground shelter you could survive an atomic
bomb of the size that was dropped on Hiroshima as
long as it wasn't a direct hit.

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Reply #21 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:57am

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:40am:

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

Now this is LAUGHABLE...............how many poor bastards with bad hearts fell off the perch because an idiot made a "false alarm"........

The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........

No mention of a nuclear bomb.

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180113134649-hawaii-missile-alert-false-al...

I guess you think a 'ballistic missile' is like a piñata; it contains lollies..............fool....

Ballistic missiles are usually armed with a warhead, of which there are many different kinds.

More often than not, they are not nuclear.

Thus, alarm systems certainly are not a waste of time.

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Reply #22 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:59am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 9:46am:

Greggy,
if a missile is heading towards you -

you don't know if it has a nuclear weapon inside it or
if it's just a test of dummy warhead.

That's correct.

Which is exactly why Fuzzball's comment was so stupid.

"The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........"

Rubbish,
if you have an underground shelter you could survive an atomic
bomb of the size that was dropped on Hiroshima as
long as it wasn't a direct hit.

Fuzzball doesn't agree with you, Booby.

It appears that he knows very little about ballistic missiles and nuclear warheads.

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Reply #23 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:51am

only peccahead could debate the pedantry of the situation.

If a warning comes of a ballistic missile in the current NK situation, the assumption would be that it was nuclear. And yes, Nukes are survivable. it depends on where you are and what shelter you have. Ballistic missiles typical have smaller nukes than those dropped from bombers although still in the 1-3MT range. Also the assumption is that the missile would hit its presumed target which is a lot harder than you think. Soviet ballstic missiles were so inaccurate that hitting the right country was a challenge, nevermind the right city or target.

it must have been spooky to get that message however.

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Reply #24 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:51am:

only peccahead could debate the pedantry of the situation.

If a warning comes of a ballistic missile in the current NK situation, the assumption would be that it was nuclear. And yes, Nukes are survivable. it depends on where you are and what shelter you have. Ballistic missiles typical have smaller nukes than those dropped from bombers although still in the 1-3MT range. Also the assumption is that the missile would hit its presumed target which is a lot harder than you think. Soviet ballstic missiles were so inaccurate that hitting the right country was a challenge, nevermind the right city or target.

it must have been spooky to get that message however.

Nobody's on your side, Fuzz.

"The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........"

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Reply #25 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 11:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:56am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:51am:

only peccahead could debate the pedantry of the situation.

If a warning comes of a ballistic missile in the current NK situation, the assumption would be that it was nuclear. And yes, Nukes are survivable. it depends on where you are and what shelter you have. Ballistic missiles typical have smaller nukes than those dropped from bombers although still in the 1-3MT range. Also the assumption is that the missile would hit its presumed target which is a lot harder than you think. Soviet ballstic missiles were so inaccurate that hitting the right country was a challenge, nevermind the right city or target.

it must have been spooky to get that message however.

Nobody's on your side, Fuzz.

"The is NO escape from a nuclear bomb, so any alarm system is a total waste of time........"

dont try and escape you pedantry. Yes, nukes ARE survivable, but it is largely NOT. 1% survival rate is hardly a fact to hang on to.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Missile threat Hawaii a false alarm. Reply #26 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 11:37am It is worth noting that the message went on to say that it was a NK NUCLEAR missile. So of course people were worried. Who wouldnt be?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131477 Gender:	Re: Missile threat Hawaii a false alarm. Reply #27 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 11:59am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 11:37am: It is worth noting that the message went on to say that it was a NK NUCLEAR missile. I haven't seen that. Do you have a screen shot? This is the only one I've seen:
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Reply #28 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:18pm

Now they know what will happen if there is a ballistic missile attack on most American cities....There would be chaos with no one knowing what to do....Now America can have that debate with media telling the population what they should do in case of a real attack and politicians using the event for domestic political gain....Make America safe again???

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Reply #29 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 11:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 11:37am:

It is worth noting that the message went on to say that it was a NK NUCLEAR missile.

I haven't seen that.

Do you have a screen shot?

This is the only one I've seen:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/8258/production/_99586333_missle.jpg

Teh info came from a HAwaii resident being interviewed on MSNBC who said that further info said it was a NK nuke.

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