I can think of one place where we tip based on service.

Political staffers should live on tips from delivering messages around their master's fiefdom..... rather than doing an Incredible Credlin and trying to order the show around.

Behind every political appointment stands a Fascist closet.................

Tightarse

Tipping has spread with the rise of the middle-class, in service industries, mostly in countries traditionally associated with unfair labor practices and corruption.

I don't believe the popular wisdom that the Australian reluctance to tip has anything to do with ethos. It is an attitude that was inherited from Britain long before the wages explosion beginning in the 1960s, before which, most people lived "from hand to mouth," and did not use service industries to any great extent. The British and Australian working class did not eat in restaurants other than basic "cafes." They travel by bus, and they counted their pennies when, on rare occasions, they had to take a cab. We simply did not have the money to tip.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 1:42pm:


I left 4 x 50ml bottles of mixed spirits for the garbos fot xmas this year and I always tip low wage earners when I can.

God you're a tightarse.

Perhaps he is jealous. I rarely tip myself, but I cannot imagine actually being hostile to the people who do.

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 1:52pm:


Union arseholes not only want to be the sole conduit between employers and employees but they aim to cause hostility between them to justify their parisitic existence.

Receptionists are some of the lowest paid people in the country.

Gordon doesn't tip the receptionist when he goes to the doctor for another Viagra prescription.

Why not?

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 1:52pm:


People who tip in this country are doing more harm than good.

"The Australian deal is that we assume all workers are looked after with decency by our industrial system.

"They shouldn't have to hustle for tips.

"While we may not yet be at US levels, a tipping culture tends to creep.

"Some in the Australian hospitality industry used the concept of tips as a reason that penalty rates could be cut last year.

"In the US, the minimum wage of $7.25 has not risen since 2009. 

"But customary tipping has increased from the historic 10 per cent rule of thumb, to 20-plus.

"Call me a conspiracy theorist, but do you think that might have something to do with bosses working out how to cost shift to their customers?

A union tout begruding lower paid workers receiving a gratuity for going above and beyond for a customer! What! Huh?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:


Exactly.

Anybody who wants to look after low paid workers in this country, should not be tipping.

It undermines our industrial relations system.

"Some in the Australian hospitality industry used the concept of tips as a reason that penalty rates could be cut last year."

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:07pm:


The interesting this is in situations where tipping is generally not applied the service in Australia is nearly always atrocious.

Ive lived in an area where the garbos seemed to go out of their way to leave the bins in the worst possible place. Our current garbo level the bins where they were left out. They got a xmas present and deserved it.

No, I just mutter that under my breath while I wait the fifteen minutes for them to put it in a little, plastic box.

Greg appears to believe he is doing wait staff a favour by personally attacking people who tip them. I'd like to see him try to explain it to their face. "You don't need tips, let your union take care of you instead. By the way, have you paid your dues this year..."

Maybe that's why the unions do so poorly in this industry.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:



Just keep reading your book Greggy:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:23pm:


Just the tip, hey Booby?

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:24pm:


You probably haven't read enough, full stop.

Tipping, in this country, will lead to a loss of entitlements for low paid workers.

Why would anyone want to see that happen?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:


I've read the rules and policies of several unions over the years, and most of them (today) include clauses that forbid officials from accepting gifts or gratuities from members.

dear Greggy,
are you now or have you ever been
a member of the communist party?

Comrade Pecker of Our Eternal and Ever-Loving Glory  Hole...sorry! Revolution.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:37pm:


In France a 10% tip for the waiters is on your bill automatically.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:41pm:



Why won't you answer me?


are you now or have you ever been
a member of the communist party?

So very consistent. Pecker favouring foreigners. His tips are 20% in the Middle East. (Zilch in Israel).

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:52pm:


I don't like that as I prefer to reward exceptional service.

Gordon wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:56pm:



But in France the waiters get paid nearly zero in wages so
they live on the 10% tips from every bill.

In some high class restaurants the waiters have to pay the restaurant to work there.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:59pm:


If you want to see that happen here in Australia, keep tipping.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 3:00pm:


Union officials are leaches.

Gordon wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 1:49pm:


Garbos earn a lot more than a checkout chick, pharmacy assistant, or fast food worker.

So, why don't you tip at Coles, Soul Pattinson, and McDonald's?

Do you tip at Hooters, Homo?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 3:19pm:


Sizzler?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 3:22pm:


For excellent service, sure.

Gordon wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 3:25pm:




Could be -
we should now go on a communist hunt at Ozpolitic to find all of them.

They have been hiding here for years amongst us.

For excellent service. I've given boxes of chocolates to the McDonalds girls who cheerfully make my morning coffee. I don't have a problem with showing  real world gratitude to those that go out of their way for me.

At 4:30 in the morning, the women are generally a bit older. I forgive your ignorance.

The girls that age generalljy work after school.
Forgiven.

I dont know. The youngest woman that ever served me at 4:30 in the morning was, say, about 25. I know why you're deflecting. The only time you care about lower paid workers is when the meter is running, eh Carpet-bagger.

Gordon wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

Coffee beggars can't be coffee choosers at 4:30 in the morning, Gordy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

Nope. That's because you don't get the same level of personal service at these places. Some places you do.

Expanding on the above anecdote,  people  like greggy aren't happy with equal opportunities.  He wants equal outcomes for all. The checkout operator at coles could get a job where they can shine and pull the tips,  if they want!

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 4:17pm:


Why do you go back, then?

Work at McDonald's  and sell: sorry, miserable, squashed things
that don't look like the pictures on the wall.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:


You want to steal the money from people who go the extra yards to give excellent service because you're a communist who believe in equal outcomes for all.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 6:01pm:


I reward excellence.  You encourage mediocrity.

Gordon wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 1:49pm:


No you din't.

You're a lying, pretentious arsehole.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:


They actually collected xmas day in my street.
They deserved it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:


Stingy communist.  I have a whole box full of 50ml spirit bottles and I hardly ever drink.  Bet the garbos enjoyed them!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:


50ml glenfiddich
50ml Knob Creek Bourbon
50ml Hennesy cognac
50ml  Herradura tequila

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:



His use of personal insults means he's lost.

Anyway,  the last laugh is on him because all the waitstaff of his regular restaurants spit in his food because he's a tightarse that doesn't tip!!!

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 10:04pm:


Miam miam.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 2:11pm:


Because he wakes up with morning wood ... naturally?

Back in the day, I did delivery driving. A few times, I was tipped good money. I never expected much in tips from orders requiring to be paid. But occasionally, I would get anywhere from $2 to $5. My best tip was $84. That was basically nearly 5 hours of my hourly rate. Definitely helped me with fuel and other expenses for the week.... back in the day.

My last delivery had me driving to the more affluent part of Rockhampton -- and yes, Rockhampton does have affluent suburbs. I walked my way up a long driveway to get to the house. The man gave me $50 for a $44-something order and told me to keep the change. Then he got out another $5 and added that to my tip. You just have to play the poor battler guy when you get those tips, because they might not tip as much next time. "Awesome... will get some bread and milk after work with this" type comments can go either way. Either, the customer will see through your bs... or he will consider it him doing you a favour and feel better about it.

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:17am:


Absolutely.

Don't tip them, though.

It's not helping them, in the long run.

If people continue to tip low paid workers in Australia, groups like the CCI will use that as an excuse to take away entitlements.

They've already used it in the argument to abolish penalty rates.