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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20226 Gordon Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #135 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:48pm Hey Greg, do you tip small business owner/operators?
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Reply #136 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:17pm:

6greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

I'll be interested to hear how much he charges His Beloved Oppressed Comrades of the Revolution for his court time.

Not one single cent.

The bill goes to whichever Union they're in.

That's the idea behind Unions, Homo - they help the workers.

How much do ypu charge the unions for your court time, Greg?

I very rarely go to court.

Yes, good. Okay. But when you DO, how much do you charge per hour?

None of your business.

All you need to know is that the worker doesn't pay me (their Union does).

The service is covered by their Union fees.

Pretty good, hey?

Something goes wrong at work, they contact their Union, and the Union says "no worries, we'll get you some help and it won't cost you a cent".

Why wouldn't you be in a Union?

A bit of a touchy subject, eh? That's sorta how Michael Moore responds to the same type of questions. Let's say its $200 an hour. That's a worker's union fees for six months for one hour's work. Don't worry, it's not 'real' money garnished out of a 'real' worker's 'real' paypacket.

Not touchy, just private.

How much do you take from your employer every hour?

Anyway, let's say I take $320 per hour.

The worker still doesn't have to come up with any extra money.

All they have to do is pay their monthly Union fees.

How good is that?

Have you ever read Marx, Comrade?

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Reply #137 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:55pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:17pm:

6greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

I'll be interested to hear how much he charges His Beloved Oppressed Comrades of the Revolution for his court time.

Not one single cent.

The bill goes to whichever Union they're in.

That's the idea behind Unions, Homo - they help the workers.

How much do ypu charge the unions for your court time, Greg?

I very rarely go to court.

Yes, good. Okay. But when you DO, how much do you charge per hour?

None of your business.

All you need to know is that the worker doesn't pay me (their Union does).

The service is covered by their Union fees.

Pretty good, hey?

Something goes wrong at work, they contact their Union, and the Union says "no worries, we'll get you some help and it won't cost you a cent".

Why wouldn't you be in a Union?

A bit of a touchy subject, eh? That's sorta how Michael Moore responds to the same type of questions. Let's say its $200 an hour. That's a worker's union fees for six months for one hour's work. Don't worry, it's not 'real' money garnished out of a 'real' worker's 'real' paypacket.

Not touchy, just private.

How much do you take from your employer every hour?

Anyway, let's say I take $320 per hour.

The worker still doesn't have to come up with any extra money.

All they have to do is pay their monthly Union fees.

How good is that?

Have you ever read Marx, Comrade?

Sure have.

This is one of my favourites:

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #138 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade?
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #139 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:19pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm: Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade? We'll call that stumps.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #140 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:23pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:53pm: Have you ever read Marx, Comrade? Of course Greggy has read Karl Marx.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 131485 Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #141 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:39pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm: Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade? Sure have. Haven't we all?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #142 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm: Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade? Sure have. Haven't we all? Das Kapital comrade.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 80208 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #143 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:53pm AiA wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:07pm: Trump is pushing a new rule that will make tips the property of employers rather than workers. You sad /fək/ers ... Hoping for a little trickle-down, is he?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 131485 Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #144 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:09pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm: Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade? Sure have. Haven't we all? Das Kapital comrade. It's on the bookshelf right next to me.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20226 Gordon Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #145 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:13pm Greg won't even tip an owner operator even tho it had no effect on wages. He'd just a communist scrooge
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 131485 Gender:	Re: Tipping Reply #146 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:14pm Gordon wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:13pm: Greg won't even tip an owner operator even tho it had no effect on wages. He'd just a communist scrooge What's your point?
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Reply #147 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm:

Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade?

Sure have.

Haven't we all?

Das Kapital comrade.

It's on the bookshelf right next to me.

Well - I have unmasked you Greggy -

a communist has been hiding on Ozpolitic for all these years -

you're busted.

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Reply #148 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 4:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:59pm:

Bravo! Have you ever read Karl Marx, Comrade?

Sure have.

Haven't we all?

Das Kapital comrade.

It's on the bookshelf right next to me.

Well - I have unmasked you Greggy -

a communist has been hiding on Ozpolitic for all these years -

you're busted.

On the same bookshelf, there's a Bible.

I'm not a Christian though.

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Reply #149 - Jan 14^th, 2018 at 6:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 4:52pm:

On the same bookshelf, there's a Bible.

I'm not a Christian though.

Hi Greggy,
But do you agree that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletariat

In Marxist theory, the proletariat is the social class that does not have ownership of the means of production and whose only means of subsistence is to sell their labor power[10] for a wage or salary. Proletarians are wage-workers, while some refer to those who receive salaries as the salariat. For Marx, however, wage labor may involve getting a salary rather than a wage per se. Marxism sees the proletariat and bourgeoisie (capitalist class) as occupying conflicting positions, since workers automatically wish their wages to be as high as possible, while owners and their proxies wish for wages (costs) to be as low as possible.

Marx argued that it was the goal of the proletariat to displace the capitalist system with the dictatorship of the proletariat, abolishing the social relationships underpinning the class system and then developing into a communist society in which "the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all".[16]

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