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Reply #60 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:05am
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 7:34am:
Stilll nothing but flaming like the TROLL you are phil.
please go away.


Your standard response when you are called out for flaming....You don't like backing up your bullshit do you???

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Reply #61 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:41am
 
Auggie wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
You support the following values:

1) Separation of Church and State;

2) Freedom of Speech (the narrowest interpretation of it);

3) Equality for Women;

4) Equality for minorities;

5) Freedom to practise your religion without fear of violence;

Australia culture is your core culture, with your ethnic background taking a peripheral role.

You are an Australian citizen.

Your loyalty is to the Queen, Union Jack and country.

You believe that the Indigenous peoples of the Australian continent have been wronged by BOTH Australian government and the British;

You support the institutions of parliamentary democracy; common law; and separation of powers.
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If you do not support any one of the above, you are not Australian.

That rules out: Aussie, Grappler, Setanta, Brian Ross, philperth et al. Sorry guys, you're not Australian.

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So being Australian is actually a British or loyal subject to colonial Britain.
Goodness me what a confused "nation".


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Reply #62 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:45am
 
Lol got it arse about eh phil...  typical.
I've been over this crap many times already..  bwian gets shotdown regularly on just this point and did just the other day by several people not just me.
It aint rocket science phil.
let me try to put it simply for you...
being born here or having a certificate may make you AN Australian but it doesn't make you Australian.
hope that clears things up for you.

ps.  If I was trolling and flaming YOU phil, I would be rude and discourteous and call you dickhead etc like you do me ...  all the time.
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Reply #63 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:47am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
You are Australian if time spent drinking beer
and playing pool with your mates is more important than time with your wife and kids.


I guess this is an essential definition of Australian culture.
Everything else is still British.

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Reply #64 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:48am
 
Auggie wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
You support the following values:

1) Separation of Church and State;

2) Freedom of Speech (the narrowest interpretation of it);

3) Equality for Women;

4) Equality for minorities;

5) Freedom to practise your religion without fear of violence;

Australia culture is your core culture, with your ethnic background taking a peripheral role.

You are an Australian citizen.

Your loyalty is to the Queen, Union Jack and country.

You believe that the Indigenous peoples of the Australian continent have been wronged by BOTH Australian government and the British;

You support the institutions of parliamentary democracy; common law; and separation of powers.
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If you do not support any one of the above, you are not Australian.

That rules out: Aussie, Grappler, Setanta, Brian Ross, philperth et al. Sorry guys, you're not Australian.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




F#ck the day I would ever pledge loyalty to the Union Jack....Piss off you POME bastard!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


The Union Jack is on our flag, mate. You're not pledging to it means you're not Australian.

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Sorry mate you sound more as a Closet Pom than Australian.
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Reply #65 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:52am
 
Auggie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:32pm:
Auggie wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
You support the following values:

1) Separation of Church and State;

2) Freedom of Speech (the narrowest interpretation of it);

3) Equality for Women;

4) Equality for minorities;

5) Freedom to practise your religion without fear of violence;

Australia culture is your core culture, with your ethnic background taking a peripheral role.

You are an Australian citizen.

Your loyalty is to the Queen, Union Jack  Australian Flag and country.

So, what's that red cross on the canton of our flag?


You believe that the Indigenous peoples of the Australian continent have been wronged by BOTH Australian government and the British;

Hold on, I thought we became a nation in 1901?? The stolen generation happened after that time. Are you trying on a path of historical revisionism??


You support the institutions of parliamentary democracy; common law; and separation of powers.
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If you do not support any one of the above, you are not Australian.

That rules out: Aussie, Grappler, Setanta, Brian Ross, philperth et al. Sorry guys, you're not Australian.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




It wasn't/isn't correct.



The Union flag(a Jack is naval) is in the top left corner of our flag. The Southern cross constellation occupies from mid to left side & a 7 pointed star representing the number of states & territories sit below the Union flag.

The Stolen Generation is a furphy. Any atrocities carried out that fit the bill as being perpetrated by the British occurred before 1901.
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Reply #66 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:54am
 
Lets compromise.

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Reply #67 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:08am
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:36pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:23pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 3:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Multi-ethnic populations are something I have no problem with at all, but the ones who put their historical culture ABOVE the australian culture, should get the arse. F off back there if ya love it so bloody much you maintain it's beliefs and cultural practices instead of adopting the australian culture.



And what is the "Australian Culture"? (if it even exists)
I don't binge drink on weekends or obsess over cars.
Does that mean that I'm not adopting Australian Culture?


You cannot seriously believe what you are suggesting. By this measure only robotic clones have a culture because they behave identically.

How do you recognise any culture? By signs of the most commonplace cliches and stereotypes?



I'm not the one who brought up Australian culture, mozzaok did.
I don't think anyone has actually described what Australian Culture is.
It just seems to be a useful euphemism to describe what tinted people arn't



Does any country have its own culture? Of course.
Does France have a culture? China? Vietnam, Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil, etc? Why question only Australia's culture? I don't see the logic.


There is a logic. Because you don't know what a culture is.
You don't have a culture because you expelled and hated the best Art critic ever Robert Hughes, then you expelled and hated painter like Geffry Smart and son and so on.
You don't need a culture you have a Bear and Barbie that's enough to be cultured for you.
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Reply #68 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:42am
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:45am:
Lol got it arse about eh phil...  typical.
I've been over this crap many times already..  bwian gets shotdown regularly on just this point and did just the other day by several people not just me.
It aint rocket science phil.
let me try to put it simply for you...
being born here or having a certificate may make you AN Australian but it doesn't make you Australian.
hope that clears things up for you.

ps.  If I was trolling and flaming YOU phil, I would be rude and discourteous and call you dickhead etc like you do me ...  all the time.


I disagree and so does the law....Who sets these values that you claim makes you an Australian???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #69 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:43am
 
capitosinora wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:54am:


as long as they are contributing members of society not oppressed by their own culture or religion.... there's more to these issues than just being different..... we have rules here..... and those rules most often are to the benefit of those in that photo.
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Reply #70 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:44am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:42am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:45am:
Lol got it arse about eh phil...  typical.
I've been over this crap many times already..  bwian gets shotdown regularly on just this point and did just the other day by several people not just me.
It aint rocket science phil.
let me try to put it simply for you...
being born here or having a certificate may make you AN Australian but it doesn't make you Australian.
hope that clears things up for you.

ps.  If I was trolling and flaming YOU phil, I would be rude and discourteous and call you dickhead etc like you do me ...  all the time.


I disagree and so does the law....Who sets these values that you claim makes you an Australian???

Huh Huh Huh


First you are accepted as an Apprentice Australian, then you have to learn the ropes... those ropes are called assimilation..... failure to apply yourself diligently and pass the tests makes you an apprentice for life or a failed Australian..... pretty simple really.
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Reply #71 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:52am
 
capitosinora wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:08am:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:36pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:23pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 3:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Multi-ethnic populations are something I have no problem with at all, but the ones who put their historical culture ABOVE the australian culture, should get the arse. F off back there if ya love it so bloody much you maintain it's beliefs and cultural practices instead of adopting the australian culture.



And what is the "Australian Culture"? (if it even exists)
I don't binge drink on weekends or obsess over cars.
Does that mean that I'm not adopting Australian Culture?


You cannot seriously believe what you are suggesting. By this measure only robotic clones have a culture because they behave identically.

How do you recognise any culture? By signs of the most commonplace cliches and stereotypes?



I'm not the one who brought up Australian culture, mozzaok did.
I don't think anyone has actually described what Australian Culture is.
It just seems to be a useful euphemism to describe what tinted people arn't



Does any country have its own culture? Of course.
Does France have a culture? China? Vietnam, Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil, etc? Why question only Australia's culture? I don't see the logic.


There is a logic. Because you don't know what a culture is.
You don't have a culture because you expelled and hated the best Art critic ever Robert Hughes, then you expelled and hated painter like Geffry Smart and son and so on.
You don't need a culture you have a Bear and Barbie that's enough to be cultured for you.


And what culture do you Septics have?

You're a nation of immigrants as well. Roll Eyes
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Reply #72 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 10:06am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:44am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:42am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:45am:
Lol got it arse about eh phil...  typical.
I've been over this crap many times already..  bwian gets shotdown regularly on just this point and did just the other day by several people not just me.
It aint rocket science phil.
let me try to put it simply for you...
being born here or having a certificate may make you AN Australian but it doesn't make you Australian.
hope that clears things up for you.

ps.  If I was trolling and flaming YOU phil, I would be rude and discourteous and call you dickhead etc like you do me ...  all the time.


I disagree and so does the law....Who sets these values that you claim makes you an Australian???

Huh Huh Huh


First you are accepted as an Apprentice Australian, then you have to learn the ropes... those ropes are called assimilation..... failure to apply yourself diligently and pass the tests makes you an apprentice for life or a failed Australian..... pretty simple really.


I was a citizen at birth....I didn't have to pass a test or be an apprentice to gain that right....Anyone who wants citizenship who were not born here must do a citizenship test....What else do you require to be an Australia according to YOU???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #73 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 10:10am
 
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Reply #74 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 10:11am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:52am:
capitosinora wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 9:08am:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:36pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:23pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 3:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Multi-ethnic populations are something I have no problem with at all, but the ones who put their historical culture ABOVE the australian culture, should get the arse. F off back there if ya love it so bloody much you maintain it's beliefs and cultural practices instead of adopting the australian culture.



And what is the "Australian Culture"? (if it even exists)
I don't binge drink on weekends or obsess over cars.
Does that mean that I'm not adopting Australian Culture?


You cannot seriously believe what you are suggesting. By this measure only robotic clones have a culture because they behave identically.

How do you recognise any culture? By signs of the most commonplace cliches and stereotypes?



I'm not the one who brought up Australian culture, mozzaok did.
I don't think anyone has actually described what Australian Culture is.
It just seems to be a useful euphemism to describe what tinted people arn't



Does any country have its own culture? Of course.
Does France have a culture? China? Vietnam, Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil, etc? Why question only Australia's culture? I don't see the logic.


There is a logic. Because you don't know what a culture is.
You don't have a culture because you expelled and hated the best Art critic ever Robert Hughes, then you expelled and hated painter like Geffry Smart and son and so on.
You don't need a culture you have a Bear and Barbie that's enough to be cultured for you.


And what culture do you Septics have?

You're a nation of immigrants as well. Roll Eyes


That the point we are the nation with developed national and cultural identity because we got rid of British colonial rule what you haven't done yet and that's why you are still a negligible  British colony without own head of state and even own flag with "Small dog syndrome" or "Small puppet syndrome"? The great intellectual who was expelled from Australia and lived in US for more than 50 years wrote about his "country" of birth: "Australia is spaciously huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant".

You still celebrate British Queen and British flag, British princesses and so on and as long as you do that you will remain a colony without national and cultural identity.
By the way in US we are all Americans and don't have closet poms as British nationalists.
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