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The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:21am
 
Betrays A Sad Reality About Australian Politics.

Footy, kangaroos, meat pies and shameless displays of racist fear mongering in an election year — ah, the quintessential Aussie experience.

Over the past week the Australian media has been losing it over a supposed gang crime wave orchestrated by “African youth”. The Herald Sun has been running front page story after front page story calling on the state Labor government to take stronger action against “out-of-control African teens” and The Age has called for a “whole of government response” to “African gangs”.

While the media has whipped itself, politicians on all sides, and no doubt a decent chunk of the public, up into a frenzy the Victorian Police have actually been begging everyone to stop using the term “gang” because it doesn’t accurately represent the nature of the problem, and could actually make things worse.

To get to the crux of what’s really going on here it’s important to understand two things. Firstly, Victoria is having a state election later this year, and secondly, if there’s one thing conservatives love doing in an election year it’s breaking the emergency glass and pushing the giant red button labelled “race”.

Before we get into the politics of the situation, it’s worth taking a sober look at the crime stats to see if we can figure out what everyone is getting worked up about.

Over in The Guardian, Calla Wahlquist has pointed out that the overall crime rate has dropped in Victoria in the past 12 months, as has the proportion of crimes being committed by people under the age of 25. So on first glance, there’s not much evidence to suggest any kind of youth gang crisis.

Sudanese Australians, who are the cohort the media is generally referring to when they talk about “Africans” in this context, make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. While that technically means that community is overrepresented in crime figures (they make up 0.1 percent of the population), again the raw numbers don’t seem to align with the intense media and political response to the so-called crisis.

There are a bunch of factors that help explain the overrepresentation of Sudanese Australians in the criminal justice system, including poverty and a lack of job and education opportunities, but the number of offences being committed doesn’t explain all the attention the issue is receiving.

The current flare up is reminiscent of the Apex gang stories throughout 2016 and 2017. According to the media, in particular the Herald Sun, the alleged gang was made up of young Sudanese men and responsible for a raft of brawls, riots and petty crimes across Melbourne.

The Herald Sun continued to report on gang last year even though police said back in April the group was a “non-entity” and was never predominately made up of people with African backgrounds.

So we’ve got a pretty well-established pattern where sections of the media are willing to ignore crime stats as well as the police in order to construct a narrative about alleged migrant crime. All that’s missing are a few politicians willing to escalate racial tension in order to snare a few extra votes. Thankfully, since this is Australia, we didn’t have to wait long.

Back in the mid-1990s former Prime Minister John Howard was regularly accused of “dog whistling”. It’s a political metaphor used to describe policies and rhetoric that use coded language to tap into the anxieties and fears of a particular subset of voters. Howard deployed these kinds of tactics regularly, especially on issues of race and immigration.

The thing about dog whistling is that you aren’t supposed to say “I think black people are criminals and we should jail them all”. That kind of gives the game away. Instead you talk about stuff like the need for “strong borders to protect Australia’s integrity”. Sounds more reasonable, but you’re basically saying “bugger off, we’re full”.

On New Year’s Day the federal environment minister, Greg Hunt, said that “African gang crime” was “out of control” and blamed Premier Daniel Andrews. Now that’s less a dog whistle and like that enormous speaker from Back to the Future Marty blows up at the beginning of the film.

Sure enough, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull followed suit and similarly blamed the apparent rise in gang crime on the Victorian government. The federal government even threw its support behind the Victorian opposition’s plan for tougher sentencing laws, just in case you weren’t clear enough that this extremely obvious intervention was about damaging the state Labor government in an election year.

The insidious thing about this kind of craven political campaigning is that the details and facts don’t matter. The conservatives think that as soon as the topic shifts to law and order, as opposed to things like health and education policy, they win. When both sides start talking about getting “tough on crime”, the thinking is that voters will drift towards the Liberals, because they trust them to be “tougher” more than they trust Labor. The trick for Labor is try and avoid fighting on this confected law and order turf in the first place.

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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:24am
 
Continued...

So far it appears that the Liberal’s gambit has paid off. The biggest debate in the country is about an ‘African gang crime crisis’ that even the police say doesn’t exist, and they’ve managed to get at least some in the Labor party to dance to their tune.

But of course it was going to pay off. It always does. Politicians love using immigrants and Indigenous Australians as punching bags when they’re desperate for votes. Look at Abbott’s embrace of ‘”stop the boats” in 2013, or the NT intervention in 2007. Ripping into minorities to try and win elections is part and parcel of our political DNA.

One of the common straw man arguments used by conservatives in this discussion is to accuse people who aren’t buying into the narrative of an African gang crime wave of “burying their heads in the sand”. The left, they argue, is so desperate to be “politically correct” they won’t even condemn crime.

But this isn’t about denying the existence of crime. It’s about injecting reality in the discussion, and questioning whether a particular community deserves to be demonised for base political reasons, just because a small proportion of that group have been found guilty of committing crimes.

If you’re still not convinced this is about race, let’s take a look at the nature of the crimes committed by the so-called gangs.

In the past month young Sudanese Australians have been accused of trashing an AirBnB property, assaulting a police officer and taking part in a street brawl. These incidents are essentially the genesis for the current crop of “gang crisis” stories flooding the news. Questioning whether these incidents deserve the the focus of the national media and federal representatives of both major political parties isn’t the same as saying “no crimes have been committed”, as conservatives try to argue.

Compare the response to these alleged crimes to the way the media covered the huge beach brawl in Sydney on Christmas Day. Three thousand people, predominantly backpackers, gathered on Little Bay beach, broke the law by drinking in an alcohol free zone and scuffled with police who were attempting to break up the party.

Two people were later charged after assaulting police officers and throwing bottles at them. It took the police nearly three hours to clear the area.

The media referred to the largely English backpackers as “Christmas revellers” (if their skin was a different colour I imagine we would have called them “rioters”), no state or federal politicians felt the need to respond, despite the fact thousands of immigrants had broken the law and two police officers had been assaulted, and the story disappeared after one day.

A sustained media and political campaign against the backpackers would have been absurd and ultimately useless, even if the differing reactions point to a hypocrisy in the way Australia talks about crime. But what are the potential consequences of the current campaign against alleged gang crime in Melbourne?

The Victorian opposition, with the support of the federal government, is calling for harsher sentences, stricter bail conditions and more police resources. Hopefully Labor will resist the pressure to take a ‘lock them up and throw away the key’ approach, and acknowledge that investing in education, employment and poverty reduction is a smarter solution to reducing crime than jailing kids.

After all, surely the only thing worse than desperately flicking the switch to “we’re tough on crime” in response to a gang crisis is doing it in response to a gang crisis that doesn’t exist.
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Reply #2 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:01am
 
Over in The Guardian, Calla Wahlquist has pointed out that the overall crime rate has dropped in Victoria in the past 12 months, as has the proportion of crimes being committed by people under the age of 25. So on first glance, there’s not much evidence to suggest any kind of youth gang crisis.

We all know how the crime rate 'drops' in Victoria.

Keeping appearances on immigration


Consider now the brawls in the Sudanese community, or the young Somalis returning "home" for jihad.

The Howard government's last immigration minister, Kevin Andrews, did warn in 2007 of the violence among African refugees, only to be howled down by the usual screams of "racist!".

Worse, Victoria's then chief commissioner, Christine Nixon, rebuked him with a falsehood, claiming "Sudanese refugees are actually under-represented in the crime statistics".

In fact, her private data showed Sudanese were four times more likely to be charged with crimes.
If you want anecdotal corroboration, here are news reports of crimes from around the country for just this month.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/opinion/keeping-appearances-on-immigration-ng-ea6377...

Who wants a healthy dose of 'inclusiveness' so that new arrivals feel they are part of the Australian community. Here's a nice slice of 'inclusiveness':

There is indeed a problem, as the winner of this year's bloodied
Miss South Sudan Australia
title, Nyakor Tut, admits: "Our leaders and young people are worried about punch-ons in our community, but we don't have the resources to deal with this."
** from the same article above.

Are we to presume that the Miss South Sudan Australia is open to all? And these people scream 'racism' at every opportunity.

Want more 'inclusiveness'? Cop this:

Crime prevention programs for culturally and linguistically diverse communities in Australia


Police and Afghan Youth Camp

Police and African Youth Project

Women’s Only Swimming

Burmese Refugee (Karen/Chin) Police Information Sessions

Etc.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/rip/1-10/18.html

Women’s Only Swimming...that's sure to achieve 'inclusiveness'.

So many programs to highlight how our immigration program is a failure and with so many programs in operation how does that achieve 'inclusiveness'? Want to know how come the health or education budgets have been snipped? You can see where the money has gone.
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:04am
 
Does the recent obsession with African gangs have anything to do with the recent arrival of African gangs?
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Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:54am
 
What obsession..African gangs are running amok in Victoria

People are scared to go out of their  own homes

What obsession?
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Reply #5 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:36am
 
red baron wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:54am:
What obsession..African gangs are running amok in Victoria

People are scared to go out of their  own homes

What obsession?



Sunrise had a very interesting group on this morning   I do hope you may have seen it...

two members of the Sudanese community   with different attitudes... one was very vocal as he should have been   calling  a spade a spade the first one  pompously claimed crime has no color......the other guy snapped back.. YES IT DOES....and it need dealing with NOW...he said to sack all those who are claiming funding for helping troubled youth... because the youth were not getting it....he claims they are lining their own pockets... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  old habits maybe ...

it was really refreshing to see a black guy calling it for what it is..... a shambles all they top guys do is point fingers at each other....

so now the Cops are calling them gangs....seriously   that will make all the difference... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Victoria your hopeless! Angry
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Reply #6 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:39am
 
red baron wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:54am:
What obsession..African gangs are running amok in Victoria

People are scared to go out of their  own homes

What obsession?




We are scared to live in our own homes -

home invasions are still happening.

How do you deal with 6 or more armed Africans inside your home?
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Reply #7 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:00am
 
The obsession is because no other race conducts themselves like this on a regular basis.

Can we at least get rid of them ? Nobody wants that shite here and nobody would care if they were dragged back to where they belong. I wouldn't.
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Reply #8 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:05am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:39am:
red baron wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:54am:
What obsession..African gangs are running amok in Victoria

People are scared to go out of their  own homes

What obsession?




We are scared to live in our own homes -

home invasions are still happening.

How do you deal with 6 or more armed Africans inside your home?


A high capacity magazine?
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Reply #9 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:08am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:00am:
The obsession is because no other race conducts themselves like this on a regular basis.

Can we at least get rid of them ? Nobody wants that shite here and nobody would care if they were dragged back to where they belong. I wouldn't.


X2...................... Cool
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Reply #10 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:17am
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:05am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:39am:
red baron wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:54am:
What obsession..African gangs are running amok in Victoria

People are scared to go out of their  own homes

What obsession?




We are scared to live in our own homes -

home invasions are still happening.

How do you deal with 6 or more armed Africans inside your home?


A high capacity magazine?



One of these would be handy but they're illegal:

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Reply #11 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:19am
 
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:36am:
red baron wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:54am:
What obsession..African gangs are running amok in Victoria

People are scared to go out of their  own homes

What obsession?



Sunrise had a very interesting group on this morning   



Now there's something I never thought I'd hear.

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Reply #12 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm
 
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. While that technically means that community is overrepresented in crime figures (they make up 0.1 percent of the population), again the raw numbers don’t seem to align with the intense media and political response to the so-called crisis"

The apologist media at its finest.......  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #13 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?
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Reply #14 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:20pm
 
Obsession or not, this policeman still has a lot to say about the "thugs" ("thugs" mentioned at 2:10mins)

Watch video

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-po...
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Reply #15 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?
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Reply #16 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals (or have criminal intent), wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?

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Reply #17 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?
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Reply #18 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?

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Reply #19 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?
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Reply #20 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.

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Reply #21 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?
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Reply #22 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?



Ahh yes you are.
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Reply #23 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:01pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?



Ahh yes you are.


No, I'm not.

Moreover, you know I'm not, otherwise you would have posted a quote from me apologising for them (impossible to do, as no such quote exists).

So, you come out looking like a liar (as usual), and I come out looking honest.

Life is good   Wink
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #24 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #25 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #26 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:06pm
 
Peccar you know who plays the victim & race card in this & every other country ad infinitum .....

yet you cover/ apologise for those groups all the time.
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #27 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #28 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:09pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
Peccar you know who plays the victim & race card in this & every other country ad infinitum .....

yet you cover/ apologise for those groups all the time.


Why don't you post a quote from me where I apologise for a criminal?

That should sort this out once and for all.

Until you can do that, though, you're nothing more than a liar.

Life is sooo good   Wink
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #29 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #30 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #31 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #32 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #33 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #34 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #35 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #36 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:31pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.


What parts of multiculturalism are bothering you, Homo?

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Reply #37 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.


What parts of multiculturalism are bothering you, Homo?

https://cdn.restaurantguru.com/restaurants/small/h215/106931735.jpg

More congestion , more people and no in growth infrastructure, crims, ghettos, less jobs, less homes. I'll now ask you a question. How does multiculturalism benefit working class aussies?
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Reply #38 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:37pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.


What parts of multiculturalism are bothering you, Homo?

https://cdn.restaurantguru.com/restaurants/small/h215/106931735.jpg

More congestion , more people and no in growth infrastructure, crims, ghettos, less jobs, less homes. I'll now ask you a question. How does multiculturalism benefit working class aussies?


So, you have a problem with overpopulation - not multiculturalism.

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Reply #39 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.


What parts of multiculturalism are bothering you, Homo?

https://cdn.restaurantguru.com/restaurants/small/h215/106931735.jpg

More congestion , more people and no in growth infrastructure, crims, ghettos, less jobs, less homes. I'll now ask you a question. How does multiculturalism benefit working class aussies?


So, you have a problem with overpopulation - not multiculturalism.


Definitely mass migration. The only people it benefits are the big end of town.
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Reply #40 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:44pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.


What parts of multiculturalism are bothering you, Homo?

https://cdn.restaurantguru.com/restaurants/small/h215/106931735.jpg

More congestion , more people and no in growth infrastructure, crims, ghettos, less jobs, less homes. I'll now ask you a question. How does multiculturalism benefit working class aussies?


So, you have a problem with overpopulation - not multiculturalism.


Definitely mass migration.


We agree on something.

Maybe we could send Herbie back home.
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How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?
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How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?




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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?





Because they've put in the least.
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Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:20pm:
Obsession or not, this policeman still has a lot to say about the "thugs" ("thugs" mentioned at 2:10mins)

Watch video

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-po...


Good post:

She said Victoria Police noticed youth offending "go to a new level" in 2016, and the State Government responded by:

adding resources to the gangs squad and special operations group
recruiting 3,135 additional frontline police
funding an intelligence system, bulletproof vehicles and other technology and resources.

"These resource are having an impact," Ms Neville said.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?





Because they've put in the least.


Ah.

So migrants contribute, then?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?





Because they've put in the least.


Ah.

So migrants contribute, then?


Most recent refugees don't.
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Reply #47 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:15pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?





Because they've put in the least.


Ah.

So migrants contribute, then?


Most recent refugees don't.


Refugees now?

I thought we were talking about all migrants.

You're all over the place like a mad woman's sh!t, Homo.


(that reminds me: where are Lisa and Agnes - banned?)
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Reply #48 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?



It's perfectly legal to deport anybody who doesn't have full oz citizenship and has been  imprisoned for more than 12 months. These are mostly new migrants.
Because they've put in the least.


Ah.

So migrants contribute, then?


Most recent refugees don't.


Refugees now?

I thought we were talking about all migrants.

You're all over the place like a mad woman's sh!t, Homo.


(that reminds me: where are Lisa and Agnes - banned?)

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What are you trying to say, Homo?

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What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).

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you must have nothing better to do with your time Mr Hammer. Roll Eyes
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you must have nothing better to do with your time Mr Hammer. Roll Eyes


He likes to spend his time defending white criminals.

That much is abundantly clear.

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Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Our jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.
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cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
you must have nothing better to do with your time Mr Hammer. Roll Eyes

And you have nothing  better to do with your time but give a totally unrelated response Cods.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Or jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.

You are on the money there Bobby.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).



Homo?
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cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
you must have nothing better to do with your time Mr Hammer. Roll Eyes

And you have nothing  better to do with your time but give a totally unrelated response Cods.



I was referring to the conversation you were havin g with a person who considers you to be one of the Dregs of society..

but dont let me get in the way!
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cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
you must have nothing better to do with your time Mr Hammer. Roll Eyes

And you have nothing  better to do with your time but give a totally unrelated response Cods.



I was referring to the conversation you were havin g with a person who considers you to be one of the Dregs of society..

but dont let me get in the way!

That's okay. I think he's the dregs of society. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.
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Reply #60 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Or jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.



probably bobs.....they appear to be afraid of no one and it appears to be ONLY young males...

at least I havent seen older males taking part in home invasion...I would think burning the homes down  was all part of life back in Sudan....

what you cant have then no one can have...
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Reply #61 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).



Homo?

Immigrants have been and do get deported back to the UK pecca. I was referring to African violent crims. I want all non citizen crims who have done a big sentence to get deported. I don't care if their home country is dangerous or not.
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Reply #62 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:54pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Our jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.


You are on the money there Bobby.


I know - they love it here -
they can live a great life -
taking drugs - robbing people - bashing people -
stealing cars and joyriding around -
invading homes -

and if they caught they are still better off in our jails than
back in their own filthy countries.
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Reply #63 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:55pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
you must have nothing better to do with your time Mr Hammer. Roll Eyes

And you have nothing  better to do with your time but give a totally unrelated response Cods.



I was referring to the conversation you were havin g with a person who considers you to be one of the Dregs of society..

but dont let me get in the way!

That's okay. I think he's the degs of society. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.



of course you do

   I wouldnt dream of forcing my opinion on anyone who feels I am the dregs.....

but I was brought up proper I guess.
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Reply #64 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Our jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.



probably bobs.....they appear to be afraid of no one and it appears to be ONLY young males...

at least I haven't seen older males taking part in home invasion...I would think burning the homes down  was all part of life back in Sudan....

what you cant have then no one can have...



They love life here.
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Reply #65 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).



Homo?

Immigrants have been and do get deported back to the UK pecca. I was referring to African violent crims. I want all non citizen crims who have done a big sentence to get deported. I don't care if their home country is dangerous or not.


And non-citizen white criminals from the UK and USA - if they do a long sentence do you want them deported?
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Reply #66 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).



Homo?

Immigrants have been and do get deported back to the UK pecca. I was referring to African violent crims. I want all non citizen crims who have done a big sentence to get deported. I don't care if their home country is dangerous or not.


And non-citizen white criminals from the UK and USA - if they do a long sentence do you want them deported?

yep.
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Reply #67 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:58pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).



Homo?

Immigrants have been and do get deported back to the UK pecca. I was referring to African violent crims. I want all non citizen crims who have done a big sentence to get deported. I don't care if their home country is dangerous or not.


And non-citizen white criminals from the UK and USA - if they do a long sentence do you want them deported?

yep.


Let's hope for Herbie's sake, that pissing on chooks isn't a criminal offence then.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Our jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.



probably bobs.....they appear to be afraid of no one and it appears to be ONLY young males...

at least I haven't seen older males taking part in home invasion...I would think burning the homes down  was all part of life back in Sudan....

what you cant have then no one can have...



They love life here.



we allow them too bobby..

we would never put up with packs of introduced animals ruling our BUSH would we??....we would stop it before it covered the whole country.. didnt we learn that after the cane toads.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

at least I thought we did...

if you dont nip this in the bud....well wait till they manage to arm themselves... Angry Angry
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We need to stop pandering to groups who would rather terrorise and commit crimes than conform and try to make something of themselves, whether they be caucasians or ethnic minorities.

Turning a blind eye to whoever is committing the crimes is a totally negative and non productive way of dealing with it.

There is no obsession.  There is a problem!!!
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cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.



Our jails have better conditions than where they come from -
3 meals a day, clean water, TV, medical care  etc

No wonder they aren't scared of our jails.



probably bobs.....they appear to be afraid of no one and it appears to be ONLY young males...

at least I haven't seen older males taking part in home invasion...I would think burning the homes down  was all part of life back in Sudan....

what you cant have then no one can have...



They love life here.



we allow them too bobby..

we would never put up with packs of introduced animals ruling our BUSH would we??....we would stop it before it covered the whole country.. didnt we learn that after the cane toads.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

at least I thought we did...

if you dont nip this in the bud....well wait till they manage to arm themselves... Angry Angry




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Danielle Beaton has had enough. The mother of three from Hoppers Crossing in Melbourne’s west and her family of five are midway through packing up their house ahead of a move to the Gold Coast later this month.

They’ve endured an attempted home invasion, a ransacking and three car burglaries in the past year and now they’re taking drastic action and moving north.

“We’re just tired,” Mrs Beaton said.

“Our car has been burgled three times this year and I can’t even turn my back on my kids while they’re playing on their bikes in the street.

“We’ve got family (in Victoria) but we’re not prepared to go through it any more.”

The problems started in early 2017 when a gang of teenagers of African appearance would plonk themselves in the front garden and make a ruckus.

“It was just intimidating stuff, and then you call the police but they’re always gone by the time they get there,” she said.

The family was at home one evening in March and saw the front doorknobs rattling and heard teenagers on the property.

Those kids ran away when the family’s two dogs started growling.

About two months later, the family went through the real deal, however, when they arrived home from Kmart one evening to find the whole house had been ransacked.

“The kids’ rooms had been trashed, drawers taken out of chests and dumped everywhere and stuff smashed for no reason. And just the weirdest stuff was taken,” Mrs Beaton said.

“There was a pack of smokes on the kitchen bench on top of an iPad.

“They took the smokes, but left the iPad.”

The thieves also left a late model Samsung phone, but made off with an old prepaid mobile.

Rattled, the family called a property manager friend and ­arranged to move into a new rental property in neighbouring Truganina the next day.

But the problems didn’t stop. Their car — a 2004 Ford Territory — has been broken into three times, often as part of a wave in which the thugs target every car in the street looking for garage remote controls.

By November, the family had decided they’d had enough.

Mrs Beaton is a property manager and her husband is a road worker.

They made the decision to leave Melbourne in November and lined up new jobs before Christmas.

They were sick of feeling unsafe in their home, but Mrs Beaton also said she was beaten down by having to drive her children to and from school and between their part-time jobs every day because she was too nervous of the gangs in the neighbourhood to let them walk from the bus stop to the house.

“It sounds stupid, but when you’ve got a 15-year-old daughter and you know a gang is heckling her from the park and threatening her as she walks home, what are you meant to do?” she said.

“We’re just sick of feeling ­unsafe.

“I’ve got kids who should be able to catch a bus to the local plaza to meet their friends. That’s just not happening here.” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/crime-fatigue-dr...
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Reply #72 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 6:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Danielle Beaton has had enough. The mother of three from Hoppers Crossing in Melbourne’s west and her family of five are midway through packing up their house ahead of a move to the Gold Coast later this month.

They’ve endured an attempted home invasion, a ransacking and three car burglaries in the past year and now they’re taking drastic action and moving north.

“We’re just tired,” Mrs Beaton said.

“Our car has been burgled three times this year and I can’t even turn my back on my kids while they’re playing on their bikes in the street.

“We’ve got family (in Victoria) but we’re not prepared to go through it any more.”

The problems started in early 2017 when a gang of teenagers of African appearance would plonk themselves in the front garden and make a ruckus.

“It was just intimidating stuff, and then you call the police but they’re always gone by the time they get there,” she said.

The family was at home one evening in March and saw the front doorknobs rattling and heard teenagers on the property.

Those kids ran away when the family’s two dogs started growling.

About two months later, the family went through the real deal, however, when they arrived home from Kmart one evening to find the whole house had been ransacked.

“The kids’ rooms had been trashed, drawers taken out of chests and dumped everywhere and stuff smashed for no reason. And just the weirdest stuff was taken,” Mrs Beaton said.

“There was a pack of smokes on the kitchen bench on top of an iPad.

“They took the smokes, but left the iPad.”

The thieves also left a late model Samsung phone, but made off with an old prepaid mobile.

Rattled, the family called a property manager friend and ­arranged to move into a new rental property in neighbouring Truganina the next day.

But the problems didn’t stop. Their car — a 2004 Ford Territory — has been broken into three times, often as part of a wave in which the thugs target every car in the street looking for garage remote controls.

By November, the family had decided they’d had enough.

Mrs Beaton is a property manager and her husband is a road worker.

They made the decision to leave Melbourne in November and lined up new jobs before Christmas.

They were sick of feeling unsafe in their home, but Mrs Beaton also said she was beaten down by having to drive her children to and from school and between their part-time jobs every day because she was too nervous of the gangs in the neighbourhood to let them walk from the bus stop to the house.

“It sounds stupid, but when you’ve got a 15-year-old daughter and you know a gang is heckling her from the park and threatening her as she walks home, what are you meant to do?” she said.

“We’re just sick of feeling ­unsafe.

“I’ve got kids who should be able to catch a bus to the local plaza to meet their friends. That’s just not happening here.” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/crime-fatigue-dr...

This is the thing, the kids cant go out on the streets anymore, they cant go out in safety as young teenagers to meet friends and socialise, multiculturalism will get them maimed, i am sure the youngsters run the gauntlet.
Pack up your children and head for the bush.
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Johnnie wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Danielle Beaton has had enough. The mother of three from Hoppers Crossing in Melbourne’s west and her family of five are midway through packing up their house ahead of a move to the Gold Coast later this month.

They’ve endured an attempted home invasion, a ransacking and three car burglaries in the past year and now they’re taking drastic action and moving north.

“We’re just tired,” Mrs Beaton said.

“Our car has been burgled three times this year and I can’t even turn my back on my kids while they’re playing on their bikes in the street.

“We’ve got family (in Victoria) but we’re not prepared to go through it any more.”

The problems started in early 2017 when a gang of teenagers of African appearance would plonk themselves in the front garden and make a ruckus.

“It was just intimidating stuff, and then you call the police but they’re always gone by the time they get there,” she said.

The family was at home one evening in March and saw the front doorknobs rattling and heard teenagers on the property.

Those kids ran away when the family’s two dogs started growling.

About two months later, the family went through the real deal, however, when they arrived home from Kmart one evening to find the whole house had been ransacked.

“The kids’ rooms had been trashed, drawers taken out of chests and dumped everywhere and stuff smashed for no reason. And just the weirdest stuff was taken,” Mrs Beaton said.

“There was a pack of smokes on the kitchen bench on top of an iPad.

“They took the smokes, but left the iPad.”

The thieves also left a late model Samsung phone, but made off with an old prepaid mobile.

Rattled, the family called a property manager friend and ­arranged to move into a new rental property in neighbouring Truganina the next day.

But the problems didn’t stop. Their car — a 2004 Ford Territory — has been broken into three times, often as part of a wave in which the thugs target every car in the street looking for garage remote controls.

By November, the family had decided they’d had enough.

Mrs Beaton is a property manager and her husband is a road worker.

They made the decision to leave Melbourne in November and lined up new jobs before Christmas.

They were sick of feeling unsafe in their home, but Mrs Beaton also said she was beaten down by having to drive her children to and from school and between their part-time jobs every day because she was too nervous of the gangs in the neighbourhood to let them walk from the bus stop to the house.

“It sounds stupid, but when you’ve got a 15-year-old daughter and you know a gang is heckling her from the park and threatening her as she walks home, what are you meant to do?” she said.

“We’re just sick of feeling ­unsafe.

“I’ve got kids who should be able to catch a bus to the local plaza to meet their friends. That’s just not happening here.” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/crime-fatigue-dr...

This is the thing, the kids cant go out on the streets anymore, they cant go out in safety as young teenagers to meet friends and socialise, multiculturalism will get them maimed, i am sure the youngsters run the gauntlet.
Pack up your children and head for the bush.


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Grin

Well may you laugh, Slav arse bandit, the concept of kids is alien to you.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?



Ahh yes you are.


No, I'm not.

Moreover, you know I'm not, otherwise you would have posted a quote from me apologising for them (impossible to do, as no such quote exists).

So, you come out looking like a liar (as usual), and I come out looking honest.

Life is good   Wink


You are definitely delusional.

Playing silly word games doesn't cut it.

You are an apologist for radical Islamists, Lawless immigrants, and any other victim/race card playing whining group in this country & globally.

You come out looking the complete prat you are.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.



There are different types of Kebab ...

& they aren't just from one culture

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They need to be returned to where they fit in very nicely with the demographic background colour scheme.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
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"make up about 1.5 percent of Victorian criminal offenders. ..."


Actually, 1.5% of criminal offenders who have been caught.

This list of unsolved crimes is endless - who's committed those offences?


Why don't we send the blackies around to your joint so they can beat you up whilst they ransack your joint ?


Why would you want to do that?

If you know they're criminals, wouldn't it be better to report them to the police?

Are you harbouring criminals?


Apologising from African criminals hey pecca?


No.

Are you?


So you'll admit that they a big problem and people are being killed and hurt?


Indeed.

Criminals are a big problem, and people are being killed and hurt.

I have no time for criminals, Homo.

I also have no time for people who harbour them.


Fair enough. As long as you don't have to deal with it in Victoria park it's just a discussion piece for you hey?


Oh, there's crime in Vic Park Homo.

But by all means, you continue to play the victim card.

After all, that's all you've got   Wink

You are just your typical upstart who has no idea what's going on while you look out from your yuppie enclave. So you believe multiculturalism is all roses.


Thank you for that expert opinion, Homo.

I'll be sure to keep it by my bedside for future reference.


See all you white multiculturalism lovers are all the same. Living it up and not dealing with the negatives. Haven't you noticed yet that most  people who criticise multiculturalism deal with it's negatives on a day to day basis. Of course these people become sceptical of it. We get no benefit from it. In fact things get worse.


You have kebab shops in Plumpton, don't you?


what's your point?


Kebabs are delicious.


so?


They're from another culture, dear.

Multiculturalism is more than just food Pecca.


What parts of multiculturalism are bothering you, Homo?

https://cdn.restaurantguru.com/restaurants/small/h215/106931735.jpg


How about HALAL certified & Muslim owned fast food franchises like McDonalds .... who don't cater for all people?
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The same old apologist cliches we hear from the Muslim Community leaders.

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How about we start with new immigrants who have failed to adhere to the law ?


Why new ones?






Because blokes (Pommy)

like James Richard Finch, a la the Brisbane Whisky A Go Go firebombing perpetrator & mass murder were sent back to the UK after he had served a lengthy jail sentence here in Bogga Road.

His accomplice died in jail ... the scumbag.

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What are you trying to say, Homo?


If you abuse our generosity then bugger them back off to the 3rd world asap.


We have immigrants in this country from all over the world, Homo.

They don't just come from "the third world".

And they certainly aren't all refugees.

If an immigrant from the UK commits a serious crime, why shouldn't they be deported?

Why are you singling out refugees, from "the third world"?

It's almost as if you want to protect some criminals (i.e. the white ones).



As I have posted above ....they have .... none of the current wave of ME Muslims or Africans (Sudanese or Somali or whatever) muslim or not have been handed that punishment.

Only a few Kiwis have been recipients.

The scales need balancing & these crims need sending back to country of origin.

Appreciation of circumstance & location supposedly away from the harm they fled is not in their vocabulary ....

& it seems not in yours.
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Danielle Beaton has had enough. The mother of three from Hoppers Crossing in Melbourne’s west and her family of five are midway through packing up their house ahead of a move to the Gold Coast later this month.

They’ve endured an attempted home invasion, a ransacking and three car burglaries in the past year and now they’re taking drastic action and moving north.

“We’re just tired,” Mrs Beaton said.

“Our car has been burgled three times this year and I can’t even turn my back on my kids while they’re playing on their bikes in the street.

“We’ve got family (in Victoria) but we’re not prepared to go through it any more.”

The problems started in early 2017 when a gang of teenagers of African appearance would plonk themselves in the front garden and make a ruckus.

“It was just intimidating stuff, and then you call the police but they’re always gone by the time they get there,” she said.

The family was at home one evening in March and saw the front doorknobs rattling and heard teenagers on the property.

Those kids ran away when the family’s two dogs started growling.

About two months later, the family went through the real deal, however, when they arrived home from Kmart one evening to find the whole house had been ransacked.

“The kids’ rooms had been trashed, drawers taken out of chests and dumped everywhere and stuff smashed for no reason. And just the weirdest stuff was taken,” Mrs Beaton said.

“There was a pack of smokes on the kitchen bench on top of an iPad.

“They took the smokes, but left the iPad.”

The thieves also left a late model Samsung phone, but made off with an old prepaid mobile.

Rattled, the family called a property manager friend and ­arranged to move into a new rental property in neighbouring Truganina the next day.

But the problems didn’t stop. Their car — a 2004 Ford Territory — has been broken into three times, often as part of a wave in which the thugs target every car in the street looking for garage remote controls.

By November, the family had decided they’d had enough.

Mrs Beaton is a property manager and her husband is a road worker.

They made the decision to leave Melbourne in November and lined up new jobs before Christmas.

They were sick of feeling unsafe in their home, but Mrs Beaton also said she was beaten down by having to drive her children to and from school and between their part-time jobs every day because she was too nervous of the gangs in the neighbourhood to let them walk from the bus stop to the house.

“It sounds stupid, but when you’ve got a 15-year-old daughter and you know a gang is heckling her from the park and threatening her as she walks home, what are you meant to do?” she said.

“We’re just sick of feeling ­unsafe.

“I’ve got kids who should be able to catch a bus to the local plaza to meet their friends. That’s just not happening here.” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/crime-fatigue-dr...


Going to the Gold Coast isn't going to be an escape from the shyte she & her family have experienced in Melbourne.

It's going on there & just up the road in Brisbane.

It's a cancer here, nationally & globally.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Danielle Beaton has had enough. The mother of three from Hoppers Crossing in Melbourne’s west and her family of five are midway through packing up their house ahead of a move to the Gold Coast later this month.

They’ve endured an attempted home invasion, a ransacking and three car burglaries in the past year and now they’re taking drastic action and moving north.

“We’re just tired,” Mrs Beaton said.

“Our car has been burgled three times this year and I can’t even turn my back on my kids while they’re playing on their bikes in the street.

“We’ve got family (in Victoria) but we’re not prepared to go through it any more.”

The problems started in early 2017 when a gang of teenagers of African appearance would plonk themselves in the front garden and make a ruckus.

“It was just intimidating stuff, and then you call the police but they’re always gone by the time they get there,” she said.

The family was at home one evening in March and saw the front doorknobs rattling and heard teenagers on the property.

Those kids ran away when the family’s two dogs started growling.

About two months later, the family went through the real deal, however, when they arrived home from Kmart one evening to find the whole house had been ransacked.

“The kids’ rooms had been trashed, drawers taken out of chests and dumped everywhere and stuff smashed for no reason. And just the weirdest stuff was taken,” Mrs Beaton said.

“There was a pack of smokes on the kitchen bench on top of an iPad.

“They took the smokes, but left the iPad.”

The thieves also left a late model Samsung phone, but made off with an old prepaid mobile.

Rattled, the family called a property manager friend and ­arranged to move into a new rental property in neighbouring Truganina the next day.

But the problems didn’t stop. Their car — a 2004 Ford Territory — has been broken into three times, often as part of a wave in which the thugs target every car in the street looking for garage remote controls.

By November, the family had decided they’d had enough.

Mrs Beaton is a property manager and her husband is a road worker.

They made the decision to leave Melbourne in November and lined up new jobs before Christmas.

They were sick of feeling unsafe in their home, but Mrs Beaton also said she was beaten down by having to drive her children to and from school and between their part-time jobs every day because she was too nervous of the gangs in the neighbourhood to let them walk from the bus stop to the house.

“It sounds stupid, but when you’ve got a 15-year-old daughter and you know a gang is heckling her from the park and threatening her as she walks home, what are you meant to do?” she said.

“We’re just sick of feeling ­unsafe.

“I’ve got kids who should be able to catch a bus to the local plaza to meet their friends. That’s just not happening here.” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/crime-fatigue-dr...

This is the thing, the kids cant go out on the streets anymore, they cant go out in safety as young teenagers to meet friends and socialise, multiculturalism will get them maimed, i am sure the youngsters run the gauntlet.
Pack up your children and head for the bush.


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Why laugh at that you d1ckhead?

It's true.
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We need to stop pandering to groups who would rather terrorise and commit crimes than conform and try to make something of themselves, whether they be caucasians or ethnic minorities.

Turning a blind eye to whoever is committing the crimes is a totally negative and non productive way of dealing with it.

There is no obsession.  There is a problem!!!




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Once the vigilantes start, it will be on for young and old. The authorities do not protect the citizens, they dismiss their complaints and real grievances.

I actually look forward to some local initiative to 'contain' the African gangs. Free citizens must band together to defend themselves if the law neglects or ignores them. If the Africans can band together to terrorise the peaceful citizens then the citizens can also band together to knock the teeth out of those African thugs. 
Time to give them their own medicine because the police and the authorities will not. The people are not the property or subjects of the government. Time to hit back really hard at the menace.

The police and governments had their opportunity to address the problem, it's time for citizens themselves to act. what's happening with these African gangs is unacceptable. They must be stopped and eliminated pronto.  If the police is not up to it then the citizenry must.



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Somali migrant ‘sexually assaults a woman while she’s in LABOUR after disguising himself as a nurse on Italian hospital ward'

    Woman, 43, was in labour at hospital Rome when she was sexually assaulted
    Somali man, 38, had stolen a nurse's uniform to get access to the ward
    He allegedly groped her leg and genitals and masturbated in front of her
    Assailant, who has been charged, had been living in Italy for five years


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How about white gangs hunting Africans in self-defence? Is that where 'diversity' leads?

Or is white self-defence 'racist'??


The people of Melbourne should get organised and not expect the spineless government to protect them from African thugs. Break a few teeth and bones and they, the Africans, will know their place.

Peace.




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How about white gangs hunting Africans in self-defence? Is that where 'diversity' leads?

Or is white self-defence 'racist'??


The people of Melbourne should get organised and not expect the spineless government to protect them from African thugs. Break a few teeth and bones and they, the Africans, will know their place.

Peace.



The old boy said this about the Vietnamese, Aboriginal kids and little old Muslim ladies in headscarves.

But Darkie, well. The old boy's frothing now.
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Once the vigilantes start, it will be on for young and old. The authorities do not protect the citizens, they dismiss their complaints and real grievances.

I actually look forward to some local initiative to 'contain' the African gangs. Free citizens must band together to defend themselves if the law neglects or ignores them. If the Africans can band together to terrorise the peaceful citizens then the citizens can also band together to knock the teeth out of those African thugs. 
Time to give them their own medicine because the police and the authorities will not. The people are not the property or subjects of the government. Time to hit back really hard at the menace.

The police and governments had their opportunity to address the problem, it's time for citizens themselves to act. what's happening with these African gangs is unacceptable. They must be stopped and eliminated pronto.  If the police is not up to it then the citizenry must.





Law and Order, innit?  Which comes first?  Law or Order?  In the case of those who know no Law, Order comes first....*

Body count?  We're stepping on them..... too many to count.....

* that, BTW, is a very old philosophical argument.... which comes first..... Law.. or Order?  and which generates the fertile field for the other?  Law OR Order?   Tongue
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Noone gives a sh1t till it effects them personally.
This country has spinless cowards at the helm. When a gov sits back and watches an imported race of sub standard human destroy the current citizens and force them to move away then that gov is the enemy as well.

We don't need new laws. We have enough to control these parasites now.
We need action and we need to tell the UN to farrk off.

It is all building to marshall law. It will happen.
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Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:47am:
Noone gives a sh1t till it effects them personally.
This country has spinless cowards at the helm. When a gov sits back and watches an imported race of sub standard human destroy the current citizens and force them to move away then that gov is the enemy as well.

We don't need new laws. We have enough to control these parasites now.
We need action and we need to tell the UN to farrk off.

It is all building to marshall law. It will happen.


So you would agree with this poster?

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Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:47am:
Noone gives a sh1t till it effects them personally.
This country has spinless cowards at the helm. When a gov sits back and watches an imported race of sub standard human destroy the current citizens and force them to move away then that gov is the enemy as well.

We don't need new laws. We have enough to control these parasites now.
We need action and we need to tell the UN to farrk off.

It is all building to marshall law. It will happen.


The introduction of terrorism post 9/11, one of its major goals to whittle away the rights of law abiding citizens.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 7:09am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:47am:
Noone gives a sh1t till it effects them personally.
This country has spinless cowards at the helm. When a gov sits back and watches an imported race of sub standard human destroy the current citizens and force them to move away then that gov is the enemy as well.

We don't need new laws. We have enough to control these parasites now.
We need action and we need to tell the UN to farrk off.

It is all building to marshall law. It will happen.


So you would agree with this poster?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Sudanese_crime_gangs_002.jpg


Absolutely.
We have the right to deport. We just need to get rid of the UN and the human rights activists standing up for these grubs. These sudans are not equal with us. We have to stop treating them as they are. They come from a totally different environment, one that does not have any standards. We will drown applying our mindset to these animals.
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The United Nations started up with good intentions in mind about helping countries all over the globe.

These days it is run by the oligarchy and whatever interests they may have, so far from I have gathered,

1. Agenda 21

2. AGW

3. SSM & Transgender Agenda in schools.

The United Nations has to go, wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
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Reply #96 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:53am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:47am:
Noone gives a sh1t till it effects them personally.
This country has spinless cowards at the helm. When a gov sits back and watches an imported race of sub standard human destroy the current citizens and force them to move away then that gov is the enemy as well.

We don't need new laws. We have enough to control these parasites now.
We need action and we need to tell the UN to farrk off.

It is all building to marshall law. It will happen.


Well said.

The laws are in place, but Far Left Cultural-Marxist organisations like the Australian Appeals Tribunal still have the mischievous power to quash any of Peter Dutton's decisions on deportation.


Quote:

"The long march through the institutions is a slogan coined by student activist Rudi Dutschke".

These Far Leftwingers have all but succeeded in ensconcing themselves in positions of power from where they can hobble and cripple policies and decisions that are for the benefit of society's majority demographic.

Australia is crying out for a conservative party.
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Ajax wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 8:57am:
The United Nations started up with good intentions in mind about helping countries all over the globe.

These days it is run by the oligarchy and whatever interests they may have, so far from I have gathered,

1. Agenda 21

2. AGW

3. SSM & Transgender Agenda in schools.

The United Nations has to go, wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.


The Frankfurter School.

But! It's heartening to see an ever-growing number of 'media personalities' coming forward to say the sort of things that we have been saying. These guest speakers and panelists are being heard by the West's younger generation as an alternative view to the PC indoctrination they received at school and the universities.


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Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Once the vigilantes start, it will be on for young and old. The authorities do not protect the citizens, they dismiss their complaints and real grievances.

I actually look forward to some local initiative to 'contain' the African gangs. Free citizens must band together to defend themselves if the law neglects or ignores them. If the Africans can band together to terrorise the peaceful citizens then the citizens can also band together to knock the teeth out of those African thugs. 
Time to give them their own medicine because the police and the authorities will not. The people are not the property or subjects of the government. Time to hit back really hard at the menace.

The police and governments had their opportunity to address the problem, it's time for citizens themselves to act. what's happening with these African gangs is unacceptable. They must be stopped and eliminated pronto.  If the police is not up to it then the citizenry must.



 

you sound like a total lunatic..

this is forgiven so rejoice !

then be at peace

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Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Once the vigilantes start, it will be on for young and old. The authorities do not protect the citizens, they dismiss their complaints and real grievances.

I actually look forward to some local initiative to 'contain' the African gangs. Free citizens must band together to defend themselves if the law neglects or ignores them. If the Africans can band together to terrorise the peaceful citizens then the citizens can also band together to knock the teeth out of those African thugs. 
Time to give them their own medicine because the police and the authorities will not. The people are not the property or subjects of the government. Time to hit back really hard at the menace.

The police and governments had their opportunity to address the problem, it's time for citizens themselves to act. what's happening with these African gangs is unacceptable. They must be stopped and eliminated pronto.  If the police is not up to it then the citizenry must.



 

you sound like a total lunatic..

this is forgiven so rejoice !

then be at peace

namaste

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dear master Light,

the attacks by vicious armed African gangs has made people insane -
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The only way to deal with these black idiots is like they do on ships. This is what the blackies understand.

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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 11:09am:
The only way to deal with these black idiots is like they do on ships. This is what the blackies understand.




Watching the rest of the video, it's disappointing to see that all too often these pirates are taken prisoner instead of being executed and dumped at sea.



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Yes ... one news report saying 10 pirates were arrested and are now in a Dutch jail.

Grin Grin Next they'll be new Dutch citizens.

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Reply #103 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 10:43am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 10:34am:
Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Once the vigilantes start, it will be on for young and old. The authorities do not protect the citizens, they dismiss their complaints and real grievances.

I actually look forward to some local initiative to 'contain' the African gangs. Free citizens must band together to defend themselves if the law neglects or ignores them. If the Africans can band together to terrorise the peaceful citizens then the citizens can also band together to knock the teeth out of those African thugs. 
Time to give them their own medicine because the police and the authorities will not. The people are not the property or subjects of the government. Time to hit back really hard at the menace.

The police and governments had their opportunity to address the problem, it's time for citizens themselves to act. what's happening with these African gangs is unacceptable. They must be stopped and eliminated pronto.  If the police is not up to it then the citizenry must.



 

you sound like a total lunatic..

this is forgiven so rejoice !

then be at peace

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dear master Light,

the attacks by vicious armed African gangs has made people insane -
they are frightened for their lives.



No. It's the lack of police action and the courts actions that are tipping people over the edge.

When I hear of fellow Australians selling up and getting out because...of some sh1tbag race of sub degenerate human from overseas moving in on their neighbourhood thanks to our spinless polliticians, I get annoyed and want to fight for my fellow Australians.

Thing is, you can't use the law to fight your battles with people who are lawless. Something the west seems to not understand. You have to fight them the way they fight us.


Frank is right about vigilantes. It is only a matter of time.
When marshall law is introduced then we will all be vigilantes.
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Which youths are committing which crimes?
Commentary about the Apex gang has focused on children from Sudanese and Pacific Island backgrounds, leading to hard-line anti-migrant rhetoric and calls for tougher penalties for youth offenders.
State Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, speaking at a recent forum for crime victims, said: "If they are not an Australian citizen, then, frankly, I think they [have] worn out their welcome out and should be deported."
The Federal Government has cancelled the visas of 172 convicted criminals, just two of those are linked to Apex crimes.
Victoria Police does not record ethnicity in its official LEAP database, but place of birth is recorded.
The figures show youth born in Australia commit the most crimes in all three categories.
Last year, offences committed by youths born in Sudan jumped significantly and were second highest.
Proportionally, Sudanese-born youths are vastly over-represented in the statistics, responsible for 7.44 per cent of alleged home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies.
The latest census data shows people born in Sudan or South Sudan made up 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population in 2011.
Peer support worker Deng Maleek, who works with youths in the Sudanese community, acknowledged there was a problem but said focusing on ethnicity was problematic.
"The statistics show us that a lot of those kids engaged in criminal activity are as young as 13 — so they were born here," he said.
"They don't feel a sense of citizenship anymore and they don't feel like they belong to this country."
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outh Sudanese parents in Australia sending kids to school in Africa to avoid crime
7.30 By Madeleine Morris
Updated 28 Nov 2016, 11:51pm

Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek.







Video: South Sudanese parents in Australia sending kids to Africa to avoid crime (7.30)
Map: Melbourne 3000

South Sudanese parents in Australia are sending their children to boarding schools in Africa to escape rising youth crime rates.
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South Sudanese parents in Australia sending kids to school in Africa to avoid crime
Concerned by rise in arrests of young people for carjackings, home invasions in Melbourne
Say there is too much freedom for children in Australia

Desperate parents have told 7.30 it is safer for their children to go to school in Kenya or Uganda than live in some Melbourne suburbs.
"It is very extreme, but there are many cases where that has really worked to the best of young people," said Kot Monoah, chair of the South Sudanese Community in Victoria.
The community has been rocked by a recent rise in arrests of its young people for carjacking and home invasions, and the emergence of the Apex gang, which is made up largely of South Sudanese youth.
Akec Mading sent her daughter and son to boarding school in Kampala after witnessing relatives' children get in trouble with the law and develop drug problems.
"I'm worried about the situation [for] kids here in Australia," she said.
"There are a lot of African children now in jail. There are a lot of children now in the street, they drink, they do whatever."
Ms Mading believes an Australian culture which encourages too much freedom for teenagers is to blame, and parents no longer have the authority to discipline their children.


So now Australia is to blame. Dumb bitch. Their f arking parents are to blame.
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What a load BS Hammer

South Sudanese being able to afford to send their children to boarding school back in Sth Africa?  Grin Grin Grin

They come here with criminal tendencies inbuilt because they lived in a lawless country prior.

Sent to boarding school in Uganda?

It just gets better & better.
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Reply #107 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:33pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 11:09am:
The only way to deal with these black idiots is like they do on ships. This is what the blackies understand.




Watching the rest of the video, it's disappointing to see that all too often these pirates are taken prisoner instead of being executed and dumped at sea.




They let them off lightly -
it would be tempting to shoot the lot, sink their boat & leave them as shark bait.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
They let them off lightly -
it would be tempting to shoot the lot, sink their boat & leave them as shark bait.


They should be culled whenever the opportunity presents itself, but instead, they're taken as prisoners and in due time they apply for refugee status in Canada and other places.
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Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 10:43am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 10:34am:
Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Once the vigilantes start, it will be on for young and old. The authorities do not protect the citizens, they dismiss their complaints and real grievances.

I actually look forward to some local initiative to 'contain' the African gangs. Free citizens must band together to defend themselves if the law neglects or ignores them. If the Africans can band together to terrorise the peaceful citizens then the citizens can also band together to knock the teeth out of those African thugs. 
Time to give them their own medicine because the police and the authorities will not. The people are not the property or subjects of the government. Time to hit back really hard at the menace.

The police and governments had their opportunity to address the problem, it's time for citizens themselves to act. what's happening with these African gangs is unacceptable. They must be stopped and eliminated pronto.  If the police is not up to it then the citizenry must.



 

you sound like a total lunatic..

this is forgiven so rejoice !

then be at peace

namaste

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dear master Light,

the attacks by vicious armed African gangs has made people insane -
they are frightened for their lives.



No. It's the lack of police action and the courts actions that are tipping people over the edge.

When I hear of fellow Australians selling up and getting out because...of some sh1tbag race of sub degenerate human from overseas moving in on their neighbourhood thanks to our spinless polliticians, I get annoyed and want to fight for my fellow Australians.

Thing is, you can't use the law to fight your battles with people who are lawless. Something the west seems to not understand. You have to fight them the way they fight us.


Frank is right about vigilantes. It is only a matter of time.
When marshall law is introduced then we will all be vigilantes.



I doubt we'll get vigilantes -
the punishment is too severe if you kill one of those robbers.
You would be in jail for the rest of your life -
it's not worth it.

Genuine self defense is another matter -
and that will happen one day -
one of those home invasion gangs will meet up with a Rambo
type character with a rifle who will shoot the lot of them.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
They let them off lightly -
it would be tempting to shoot the lot, sink their boat & leave them as shark bait.


They should be culled whenever the opportunity presents itself, but instead, they're taken as prisoners and in due time they apply for refugee status in Canada and other places.


Cull them.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
They let them off lightly -
it would be tempting to shoot the lot, sink their boat & leave them as shark bait.


They should be culled whenever the opportunity presents itself, but instead, they're taken as prisoners and in due time they apply for refugee status in Canada and other places.


Cull them.


Hang them.
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What a load BS Hammer

South Sudanese being able to afford to send their children to boarding school back in Sth Africa?  Grin Grin Grin

They come here with criminal tendencies inbuilt because they lived in a lawless country prior.

Sent to boarding school in Uganda?

It just gets better & better.

It's absolute rubbish gnads.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
They let them off lightly -
it would be tempting to shoot the lot, sink their boat & leave them as shark bait.


They should be culled whenever the opportunity presents itself, but instead, they're taken as prisoners and in due time they apply for refugee status in Canada and other places.


Cull them.


Hang them.


Yes, Booby.


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Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....
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They should bring back the hanged drawn and quartered, that would teach them a lesson and it would be a good spectacle.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.


It thins the herd and thus increases public safety by that degree. And no doubt Capital Punishment causes potential participants to refuse an invitation to join the raiders.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.


It thins the herd and thus increases public safety by that degree. And no doubt Capital Punishment causes potential participants to refuse an invitation to join the raiders.




If we simply institute 'broad-scale harvesting' and simply sweep them up off the streets for disposal without notice or charge or trial - kinda like Heydrich's plan for Jews etc - then the problem is solved.    Tongue
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
Peccar you know who plays the victim & race card in this & every other country ad infinitum .....

yet you cover/ apologise for those groups all the time.


Why don't you post a quote from me where I apologise for a criminal?

That should sort this out once and for all.

Until you can do that, though, you're nothing more than a liar.

Life is sooo good   Wink


you are always an apologist for black criminals.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?


http://lh4.ggpht.com/-TDLiBEZHgAE/T14UCa4sbOI/AAAAAAAAEgs/jLX-WcboUzw/tvweek_290...


no but it certainly stops the perpetrators Wink
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
Peccar you know who plays the victim & race card in this & every other country ad infinitum .....

yet you cover/ apologise for those groups all the time.


Why don't you post a quote from me where I apologise for a criminal?

That should sort this out once and for all.

Until you can do that, though, you're nothing more than a liar.

Life is sooo good   Wink


you are always an apologist for black criminals.


No quotes, huh?     Grin
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?


http://lh4.ggpht.com/-TDLiBEZHgAE/T14UCa4sbOI/AAAAAAAAEgs/jLX-WcboUzw/tvweek_290...


no but it certainly stops the perpetrators Wink


You might need to get some new glasses.

I quite clearly said that capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals.

Specsavers have some good offers.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

]



Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.



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BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

]



Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

]



Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.




Hmmm you and I agreeing on something.  Shocked Shocked


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

]



Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.


I am pretty sure if they were hanging from lampposts in problem areas it would act as a deterrent.
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If we simply institute 'broad-scale harvesting' and simply sweep them up off the streets for disposal without notice or charge or trial - kinda like Heydrich's plan for Jews etc - then the problem is solved.    Tongue


Re-boot....   Cool
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Johnnie wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

]



Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.


I am pretty sure if they were hanging from lampposts in problem areas it would act as a deterrent.


Well, you'd be wrong.

Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

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Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.


I am pretty sure if they were hanging from lampposts in problem areas it would act as a deterrent.


Well, you'd be wrong.

Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.

Justice is not just about deterrence or even rehabilitation. Retribution is also an important part.

Committing some crimes deals you out of civilised society. Sometimes you are not needed to improve or to be deterred in future. Sometimes you are to be dispensed with as worthless.




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The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.


It will never happen - there are too many do gooders like Greggy around.
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Reply #132 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.


It will never happen - there are too many do gooders like Greggy around.


Don't be so sure.

Many states in the US brought back the Death Penalty after it had been taken off the statute books.


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Reply #133 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.


It will never happen - there are too many do gooders like Greggy around.


Actually, no there are not.   They just make the loudest noise.
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Reply #134 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.


It will never happen - there are too many do gooders like Greggy around.


It'll never happen because we're a civilised society and, we have legislation in place to prevent it from being reintroduced.

(Stand by for Herbie's inevitable: "but the legislation can be changed, blah, blah, blah".)
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

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Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.


I am pretty sure if they were hanging from lampposts in problem areas it would act as a deterrent.


Well, you'd be wrong.

Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.


And as we both know greegy it was never meant to, it is only there to kill another human being because they deserve killing.

It is an excellent preventative for recidivists and should be applied to mass murderers, serial killers, peados, and terrorists. All of which deserve killing, wouldn't you say Greeg?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.


It will never happen - there are too many do gooders like Greggy around.


It'll never happen because we're a civilised society and, we have legislation in place to prevent it from being reintroduced.

(Stand by for Herbie's inevitable: "but the legislation can be changed, blah, blah, blah".)



Just because we are run by apologist soft c0ck losers, does not diminish the value of killing some sub standard human beings, does it greeg?


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BigOl64 wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.


It will never happen - there are too many do gooders like Greggy around.


It'll never happen because we're a civilised society and, we have legislation in place to prevent it from being reintroduced.

(Stand by for Herbie's inevitable: "but the legislation can be changed, blah, blah, blah".)



Just because we are run by apologist soft c0ck losers, does not diminish the value of killing some sub standard human beings, does it greeg?




That would make you no better than a criminal.

I am much better than a criminal, so I don't support the premeditated killing of prisoners as a punishment.

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Reply #138 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Hang ten a week until their crime rate equals their population percentage.... and the rest get the message.... cesterate the rest.....


Capital punishment doesn't deter other would-be criminals, though.

You know this, so why do you encourage Booby's stupidity?

]



Capital punishment is not meant to stop others from committing crimes, nothing prevents others from committing crimes, that is how free will works genius.

CP is only meant to stop one criminal from committing further crimes and in that it is 100% guaranteed.


Once you understand that greeg, you will stop posting mindless dross about the subject.





I know exactly what capital punishment does.

Idiots in here like Booby, Herbie, et al., however,  maintain that it deters other would-be criminals.

I know perfectly well that it doesn't, and you know it doesn't, but idiots like those two don't.

Until they get the picture, I'll keep telling them.


I am pretty sure if they were hanging from lampposts in problem areas it would act as a deterrent.


Well, you'd be wrong.

Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.


And as we both know greegy it was never meant to, it is only there to kill another human being because they deserve killing.

It is an excellent preventative for recidivists and should be applied to mass murderers, serial killers, peados, and terrorists. All of which deserve killing, wouldn't you say Greeg?



I don't support the premeditated killing of prisoners, under any circumstances.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.





I am all for keeping them under lock and key... for ever mixing with their own kind...maybe even looking over their shoulders every day who kn ows...... as it is they would soon realise those they are incarcerated with are not of sound mind....if its proved beyond a shadow of doubt they killed with intention   then throw away the key...these mongrels who deliberately  drive on footpaths if someone dies... then you are gone....
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cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
The deterrence argument is a furphy.

There are a few evil bastards whose lives should be terminated. Serial killers who kill for kicks like Ivan Milat. Paedophiles who kill their victims. Terrorists.





I am all for keeping them under lock and key...



We all are.

Unfortunately though, some of the proponents of capital punishment think that those opposed to the practice don't want criminals punished at all.

This is, of course, absolute nonsense.

Those opposed to capital punishment don't want laws softened, don't want criminals let out early, and don't want criminals to get away without any punishment at all.

We are just opposed to the premeditated killing of prisoners in the care of the state.

That's all.
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We have armed personnel in a country on the other side of the world killing people with extreme prejudice not because of what they have done, but because of what they might do in the future to harm the Australian public.

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BigOl64 wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
And as we both know greegy it was never meant to, it is only there to kill another human being because they deserve killing.

It is an excellent preventative for recidivists and should be applied to mass murderers, serial killers, peados, and terrorists. All of which deserve killing, wouldn't you say Greeg?




Greggy is an apologist for all of those mentioned.
He wants them to get a nice secure jail house
so they can be protected from those of us who want to hang em and hang em high.
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The African crime wave continues:


'Shoeless' African man 'robs Melbourne's 7-Eleven after threatening shop attendant with handgun before fleeing in stolen white Mercedes-Benz'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

    Bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a 7-Eleven in Melbourne
    The man allegedly held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm on Sunday
    He fled in a stolen white Mercedes Benz, crashing into two cars, police said


    A gang of African appearance has caused havoc in Melbourne's west last week   

A bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a convenience store in Melbourne on Sunday before fleeing in a Mercedes Benz and crashing it.

The man held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm, before fleeing, crashing into two cars and then dumping the stolen white Mercedes with the imitation gun inside, police said.

Police found the damaged car on Coral Drive in Hampton Park.


I saw a guy with a bandana across his face pointing a gun, robbing the attendant, so I just grabbed my mum and said let's get out of here,' witness Paul Papageorgiou told Channel 7.

'I don't know if the gun was loaded or what the reaction would be so I thought it was just better to get out of there.'


The man is described as of African appearance, about 163cm tall, with a slim build and nothing on his feet.

The robbery comes after a spate of brutal attacks in Melbourne on Thursday and Friday.   

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.

The same men have been linked to two other street assaults on teenage boys and another home invasion in a violent crime spree in the city's north-west overnight.

The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.

Ten more men of African appearance entered the house and the woman was forced to sit in her front room as the gang ransacked her home.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
And as we both know greegy it was never meant to, it is only there to kill another human being because they deserve killing.

It is an excellent preventative for recidivists and should be applied to mass murderers, serial killers, peados, and terrorists. All of which deserve killing, wouldn't you say Greeg?




Greggy is an apologist for all of those mentioned.
He wants them to get a nice secure jail house
so they can be protected from those of us who want to hang em and hang em high.


send them around to groggary's place so he can give them a place to stay Cheesy LOL
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
And as we both know greegy it was never meant to, it is only there to kill another human being because they deserve killing.

It is an excellent preventative for recidivists and should be applied to mass murderers, serial killers, peados, and terrorists. All of which deserve killing, wouldn't you say Greeg?




Greggy is an apologist for all of those mentioned.
He wants them to get a nice secure jail house
so they can be protected from those of us who want to hang em and hang em high.


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Greggy,
did you watch the videos?

14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
Greggy,
did you watch the videos?

14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.



Did that get you excited, Booby - thinking about being ransacked by 14 African men?



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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
Greggy,
did you watch the videos?

14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.



Did that get you excited, Booby - thinking about being ransacked by 14 African men?





Greggy is making fun of the poor woman.


The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
Greggy,
did you watch the videos?

14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.



Did that get you excited, Booby - thinking about being ransacked by 14 African men?





Greggy is making fun of the poor woman.


The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.


I'll take that as a 'yes', Booby.

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The only one carrying on like a poof is you peccar.

Joe Hasham only acted being gay .... you carry on like the real deal.
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Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
The only one carrying on like a poof is you peccar.

Joe Hasham only acted being gay .... you carry on like the real deal.



Greggy is gay and he has shown no compassion for a 59 year old woman
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The African crime wave continues:


'Shoeless' African man 'robs Melbourne's 7-Eleven after threatening shop attendant with handgun before fleeing in stolen white Mercedes-Benz'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

    Bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a 7-Eleven in Melbourne
    The man allegedly held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm on Sunday
    He fled in a stolen white Mercedes Benz, crashing into two cars, police said


    A gang of African appearance has caused havoc in Melbourne's west last week   

A bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a convenience store in Melbourne on Sunday before fleeing in a Mercedes Benz and crashing it.

The man held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm, before fleeing, crashing into two cars and then dumping the stolen white Mercedes with the imitation gun inside, police said.

Police found the damaged car on Coral Drive in Hampton Park.


I saw a guy with a bandana across his face pointing a gun, robbing the attendant, so I just grabbed my mum and said let's get out of here,' witness Paul Papageorgiou told Channel 7.

'I don't know if the gun was loaded or what the reaction would be so I thought it was just better to get out of there.'


The man is described as of African appearance, about 163cm tall, with a slim build and nothing on his feet.

The robbery comes after a spate of brutal attacks in Melbourne on Thursday and Friday.   

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.

The same men have been linked to two other street assaults on teenage boys and another home invasion in a violent crime spree in the city's north-west overnight.

The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.

Ten more men of African appearance entered the house and the woman was forced to sit in her front room as the gang ransacked her home.


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Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
The only one carrying on like a poof is you peccar.

Joe Hasham only acted being gay .... you carry on like the real deal.


That came across as very homophobic, Gonads.

Are you a homophobe as well as a racist?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
The only one carrying on like a poof is you peccar.

Joe Hasham only acted being gay .... you carry on like the real deal.


That came across as very homophobic, Gonads.

Are you a homophobe as well as a racist?

Tsk tsk   Roll Eyes

You call me homo?
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Did that get you excited, Booby - thinking about being ransacked by 14 African men?



How many times have you taken a sh*t in someone's thread today? You're getting worse than Karnal.



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Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:28pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
The only one carrying on like a poof is you peccar.

Joe Hasham only acted being gay .... you carry on like the real deal.


That came across as very homophobic, Gonads.

Are you a homophobe as well as a racist?

Tsk tsk   Roll Eyes

You call me homo?


How many times do we have to go over this, Homo?

You're called Homo, with a capital H, because one of your socks is Jocko Homo.

Moreover, calling someone homo isn't offensive anyway, unless you think there's something wrong with being a homosexual.

Are you homophobic, Homo, as well as racist?

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It would be interesting to see how fast you would run peccahead if confronted by one or two of these scumbags with a machete in their hands.........like a rkken focket eh....... Grin Grin
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Greggy,
stop derailing this thread.
Go to Monk's place if you want homo talk.
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Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
It would be interesting to see how fast you would run peccahead if confronted by one or two of these scumbags with a machete in their hands.........like a rkken focket eh....... Grin Grin


What would you do - piss your panties and cry for Mummy?

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Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
Did that get you excited, Booby - thinking about being ransacked by 14 African men?



How many times have you taken a sh*t in someone's thread today? You're getting worse than Karnal.





Irrelevant nonsense.

Stay focused, old man.

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Reply #162 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
The African crime wave continues:


'Shoeless' African man 'robs Melbourne's 7-Eleven after threatening shop attendant with handgun before fleeing in stolen white Mercedes-Benz'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

    Bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a 7-Eleven in Melbourne
    The man allegedly held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm on Sunday
    He fled in a stolen white Mercedes Benz, crashing into two cars, police said


    A gang of African appearance has caused havoc in Melbourne's west last week   

A bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a convenience store in Melbourne on Sunday before fleeing in a Mercedes Benz and crashing it.

The man held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm, before fleeing, crashing into two cars and then dumping the stolen white Mercedes with the imitation gun inside, police said.

Police found the damaged car on Coral Drive in Hampton Park.


I saw a guy with a bandana across his face pointing a gun, robbing the attendant, so I just grabbed my mum and said let's get out of here,' witness Paul Papageorgiou told Channel 7.

'I don't know if the gun was loaded or what the reaction would be so I thought it was just better to get out of there.'


The man is described as of African appearance, about 163cm tall, with a slim build and nothing on his feet.

The robbery comes after a spate of brutal attacks in Melbourne on Thursday and Friday.   

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.

The same men have been linked to two other street assaults on teenage boys and another home invasion in a violent crime spree in the city's north-west overnight.

The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.

Ten more men of African appearance entered the house and the woman was forced to sit in her front room as the gang ransacked her home.




Most crimes are committed by non-Africans, Booby.

You really do get sucked in easily by the media, don't you?

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Reply #163 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
It would be interesting to see how fast you would run peccahead if confronted by one or two of these scumbags with a machete in their hands.........like a rkken focket eh....... Grin Grin


What would you do - piss your panties and cry for Mummy?

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Not at all coward, I've dealt with scum many times for many years, but you on the other hand are a gutless twat.........what did you call Sprinty at the other place? Still waiting for an answer coward.
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Reply #164 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
It would be interesting to see how fast you would run peccahead if confronted by one or two of these scumbags with a machete in their hands.........like a rkken focket eh....... Grin Grin


What would you do - piss your panties and cry for Mummy?

Grin


Not at all coward, I've dealt with scum many times for many years, but you on the other hand are a gutless twat.........what did you call Sprinty at the other place? Still waiting for an answer coward.


Yes, I'm sure you have   Grin
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https://twitter.com/yassmin_a
Ms Abdel-Magied, who was born in Sudan, started a social media storm by tweeting “All these aussies outraged about ‘gangs’, acting like they’re not descendant of actual convicts lol.”

https://twitter.com/yassmin_a/status/949399764755415040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_...
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Still no answer eh coward?
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Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:44pm:
Still no answer eh coward?


What's the question, scumbag?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:44pm:
Still no answer eh coward?


What's the question, scumbag?



What did you call "Sprinty" at the other forum? I can alway provide you with a screen shot..........coward......
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Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:44pm:
Still no answer eh coward?


What's the question, scumbag?



What did you call "Sprinty" at the other forum? I can alway provide you with a screen shot..........coward......


Go for it, scumbag.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:44pm:
Still no answer eh coward?


What's the question, scumbag?



What did you call "Sprinty" at the other forum? I can alway provide you with a screen shot..........coward......


Go for it, scumbag.





Is that your permission to post it coward?
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Reply #171 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:44pm:
Still no answer eh coward?


What's the question, scumbag?



What did you call "Sprinty" at the other forum? I can alway provide you with a screen shot..........coward......


Go for it, scumbag.





Is that your permission to post it coward?


You don't need anyone's permission to post a screenshot   Grin
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Get back to you with it tomorrow coward........just let you stew overnight....... Grin Grin
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Get back to you with it tomorrow coward........just let you stew overnight....... Grin Grin


"stew"

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Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.



Capital punishment works 100% - recipients do not re-offend.  Ever. Not ever.
Can you believe that? Recidivism - gone!!!!  It's like a magic wand. No other sentence stops recidivism 100 %.  Which is what you want with violent psycho bastards: punishment PLUS no chance of re-offending.  And it's good for them! Finally they come face to face with the weight of their deeds. It purifies their souls, at last.

As far as being a deterrent - nothing works as a deterrent for those who want to commit dreadful crimes. So not executing them that do commit them is not an argument either way.






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Just remember -
when you hang a man you better look at him:


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Of course they are violent.
They are black.
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African youth violence the outcome of failed diversity policies

The Australian  January 8, 2018 JENNIFER ORIEL   

Labor accuses the federal Liberal government of playing politics with African crime in Vic­toria. But Labor has played politics with ethnicity for decades. The result is a booming industry that trades in a culture of complaint and blame-shifting. The industry is funded by the taxpaying public but breeds hostility towards Australians. Its beneficiaries enjoy access to special funding and affirmative ­action while claiming to be oppressed. Its leaders cry racism but can rationalise racist violence when the aggressors are black and the victims are white.
It takes a long time for ideologues to concede error. One would have thought a mob of African males invading a home and punching a woman in the face might make multiculturalists repent. Perhaps a mob of African males attacking teens on the street might stir Melbourne’s green-left to unmitigated sympathy ­— for the victims.
Imagine a white mob shouting “get blacks” before terrorising a black neighbourhood. The establishment would work overtime to arrest the perpetrators and bring them to justice in Victoria’s right-on courts. Public media would be on the case, investi­gating white supremacy and damning ­racism. But in fact it was a black mob shouting “get whites” in a working-class suburb, so it’s all quiet on the PC front.
Victorian Supreme Court judge Lex Lasry seemingly made light of concerns about youth gang violence in a tweet: “Breaking: there are citizens out to dinner in Mansfield tonight and they’re not worried.”
The following night at least 10 men of ­African appearance reportedly invaded a home and terrorised a 59-year-old woman by punching her in the face and threatening to kill her. That’s 10 men ganging up on one woman. But she’s white and they’re black so — whateva.
The same night a black mob allegedly ­attacked teenagers. In one attack they set upon a boy walking along the street about 9.30pm. They took a baseball bat to the boy’s legs and assaulted him. Justice Lasry, fearlessly dining out in Mansfield, might spare a thought for the terrorised people in working-class suburbs bearing the brunt of malformed multicultural policy.
As part of the federal inquiry into migration settlement outcomes, the Liberal government wished to amend the Migration Act to permit mandatory cancellation of visas for violent offenders aged between 16 and 18. Labor rejected this, justifying the dissent by appeal to the Federation of Ethnic Communities Councils of Australia, which objects to “any attempts to apply provisions under section 501 to juveniles”.
It also rejected the recommendation that anyone over 18 convicted of violent offences such as assault, sexual offences or the possession of child pornography have their visas cancelled under section 501 of the Migration Act. The Labor Party rejected two further recommendations to strengthen counter-terrorism. In short, if you’re a violent minor, rapist, child pornographer or budding terrorist of immigrant descent, Labor has your back. Not even Dante could conjure up a ­circle of hell that foul.

We have endured a protracted season of denial about the relationship between particular ethnic groups and criminal activity. However, in its submission to the federal ­inquiry, Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency revealed that since 2014 there has been a 28 per cent increase in unique offenders who were born in Sudan. In 2014, the Australian Bureau of Statistics illustrated that people born in Sudan had the highest imprisonment rate, followed by persons born in Samoa.
Rebecca Urban reported in The Weekend Australian that Sudanese youth offend at a rate about four times the national average. Sudanese-born people are not 1 per cent of Victoria’s population, yet youth born there are responsible for 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies and 7.4 per cent of home invasions.
Rather than stopping gangs punching women, police and children, PC elites are busy discussing terminology. They’re concerned about the term “gang”. Apparently it’s causing the yoof to invade homes, beat up women and children. We are advised to use the term “networked offending”. The PC elites can’t concede their multicultural program is a failed social experiment because it means defunding a big state industry.
Victoria’s Labor government increased funding for multicultural affairs from $46.8 million to $51.1m. The budget for multiculturalism includes $21.8m for language services and $2m for migrant workers’ rights. An additional $19m was allocated to the government’s multicultural policy statement. Funding for Aboriginal policy was increased from $33.5m to $56.2m in the same budget.
In submissions to the migrant settlement outcomes inquiry, groups such as the South Sudanese Community Association in Vic­toria and the Islamic Council of Victoria ­requested more funding for programs. The SSCAV expressed concern that “a number of young people of South Sudanese origin have engaged in serious criminal activities”. However, there was little analysis of the cause of the violence in the Sudanese community ­beyond the trauma of fleeing civil war in Sudan. Instead, negative behaviour was ­attributed broadly to the Australian media, police, teachers and “racial hostility and discrimination in sections of the Aus­tralian community”.
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Reply #178 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.



Capital punishment works 100% - recipients do not re-offend.  Ever. Not ever.
Can you believe that? Recidivism - gone!!!!  It's like a magic wand. No other sentence stops recidivism 100 %.  Which is what you want with violent psycho bastards: punishment PLUS no chance of re-offending.  And it's good for them! Finally they come face to face with the weight of their deeds. It purifies their souls, at last.

As far as being a deterrent - nothing works as a deterrent for those who want to commit dreadful crimes. So not executing them that do commit them is not an argument either way.




Not as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.

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Reply #179 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Capital punishment has never worked well as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.



Capital punishment works 100% - recipients do not re-offend.  Ever. Not ever.
Can you believe that? Recidivism - gone!!!!  It's like a magic wand. No other sentence stops recidivism 100 %.  Which is what you want with violent psycho bastards: punishment PLUS no chance of re-offending.  And it's good for them! Finally they come face to face with the weight of their deeds. It purifies their souls, at last.

As far as being a deterrent - nothing works as a deterrent for those who want to commit dreadful crimes. So not executing them that do commit them is not an argument either way.




Not as a deterrent to other would-be criminals.




Not the main aim so who cares???


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Reply #180 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
Did that get you excited, Booby - thinking about being ransacked by 14 African men?



How many times have you taken a sh*t in someone's thread today? You're getting worse than Karnal.





Irrelevant nonsense.

Stay focused, old man.



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Let's get back to the subject.

The African crime wave continues:


'Shoeless' African man 'robs Melbourne's 7-Eleven after threatening shop attendant with handgun before fleeing in stolen white Mercedes-Benz'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

    Bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a 7-Eleven in Melbourne
    The man allegedly held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm on Sunday
    He fled in a stolen white Mercedes Benz, crashing into two cars, police said


    A gang of African appearance has caused havoc in Melbourne's west last week   

A bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a convenience store in Melbourne on Sunday before fleeing in a Mercedes Benz and crashing it.

The man held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm, before fleeing, crashing into two cars and then dumping the stolen white Mercedes with the imitation gun inside, police said.

Police found the damaged car on Coral Drive in Hampton Park.


I saw a guy with a bandana across his face pointing a gun, robbing the attendant, so I just grabbed my mum and said let's get out of here,' witness Paul Papageorgiou told Channel 7.

'I don't know if the gun was loaded or what the reaction would be so I thought it was just better to get out of there.'


The man is described as of African appearance, about 163cm tall, with a slim build and nothing on his feet.

The robbery comes after a spate of brutal attacks in Melbourne on Thursday and Friday.   

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.

The same men have been linked to two other street assaults on teenage boys and another home invasion in a violent crime spree in the city's north-west overnight.

The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.

Ten more men of African appearance entered the house and the woman was forced to sit in her front room as the gang ransacked her home.



Channel 7 coverage on video:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/38503442/african-gang-goes-on-shocking-cri...


https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/38516786/manhunt-underway-after-service-st...
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Reply #182 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:01pm:
Let's get back to the subject.

The African crime wave continues:


'Shoeless' African man 'robs Melbourne's 7-Eleven after threatening shop attendant with handgun before fleeing in stolen white Mercedes-Benz'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

    Bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a 7-Eleven in Melbourne
    The man allegedly held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm on Sunday
    He fled in a stolen white Mercedes Benz, crashing into two cars, police said


    A gang of African appearance has caused havoc in Melbourne's west last week   

A bare-footed man with a fake handgun allegedly robbed a convenience store in Melbourne on Sunday before fleeing in a Mercedes Benz and crashing it.

The man held up the store in Cranbourne North at 1.20pm, before fleeing, crashing into two cars and then dumping the stolen white Mercedes with the imitation gun inside, police said.

Police found the damaged car on Coral Drive in Hampton Park.


I saw a guy with a bandana across his face pointing a gun, robbing the attendant, so I just grabbed my mum and said let's get out of here,' witness Paul Papageorgiou told Channel 7.

'I don't know if the gun was loaded or what the reaction would be so I thought it was just better to get out of there.'


The man is described as of African appearance, about 163cm tall, with a slim build and nothing on his feet.

The robbery comes after a spate of brutal attacks in Melbourne on Thursday and Friday.   

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.

The same men have been linked to two other street assaults on teenage boys and another home invasion in a violent crime spree in the city's north-west overnight.

The 59-year-old woman was struck across the face as four men smashed her glass door and forced themselves into her home in Celedonian Crescent, Hillside, about 11.30pm on Thursday.

Ten more men of African appearance entered the house and the woman was forced to sit in her front room as the gang ransacked her home.



Channel 7 coverage on video:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/38503442/african-gang-goes-on-shocking-cri...


https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/38516786/manhunt-underway-after-service-st...


Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.


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Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.


Which non-African gangs are you talking about?
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Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately.  Sudanese and Samoans are by far the most over-represented in crime statistics.



If I went to a peaceful country from a war zone, I wouldn't endeavour to re-create the war zone in my you safe haven. What is it about the Sudanese that makes them want to maintain the violent context of their lives even so far away from Sudan?

They seem to be copying emulating black American gang culture.  And their elders are eager to excuse them rather than reigning them in, just like in America.


Another Cronulla can't be far away if this goes on unchecked by the police and law enforcement.
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Another Cronulla can't be far away if this goes on unchecked by the police and law enforcement. 


We can only hope.

Maybe that's exactly what the authorities are waiting for so they can then say ~ "Oh look! White supremacists on the rampage!"
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Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately.  Sudanese and Samoans are by far the most over-represented in crime statistics.



If I went to a peaceful country from a war zone, I wouldn't endeavour to re-create the war zone in my you safe haven. What is it about the Sudanese that makes them want to maintain the violent context of their lives even so far away from Sudan?

They seem to be copying emulating black American gang culture.  And their elders are eager to excuse them rather than reigning them in, just like in America.


Another Cronulla can't be far away if this goes on unchecked by the police and law enforcement. 


Gawd, the grammatical gymnastics to cover your real ID is just awful to watch.
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Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately.  Sudanese and Samoans are by far the most over-represented in crime statistics.



If I went to a peaceful country from a war zone, I wouldn't endeavour to re-create the war zone in my you safe haven. What is it about the Sudanese that makes them want to maintain the violent context of their lives even so far away from Sudan?

They seem to be copying emulating black American gang culture.  And their elders are eager to excuse them rather than reigning them in, just like in America.


Another Cronulla can't be far away if this goes on unchecked by the police and law enforcement. 



i bet that when it happens the aussie will be made out to look like the bad fella. Just a hunch.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #188 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:03pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:30pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately.  Sudanese and Samoans are by far the most over-represented in crime statistics.



If I went to a peaceful country from a war zone, I wouldn't endeavour to re-create the war zone in my you safe haven. What is it about the Sudanese that makes them want to maintain the violent context of their lives even so far away from Sudan?

They seem to be copying emulating black American gang culture.  And their elders are eager to excuse them rather than reigning them in, just like in America.


Another Cronulla can't be far away if this goes on unchecked by the police and law enforcement. 


Gawd, the grammatical gymnastics to cover your real ID is just awful to watch.



Go on then. Spill the beans.
Who is it?
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Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately. 


"proportionately"    Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.



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Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.


Which non-African gangs are you talking about?


Most crime in this country is committed by non-Africans.

Come out from under your bed, Herbie.
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During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.



How terrifying - 14 men against one defenseless woman.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:43pm:
During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house during a vicious home invasion.



How terrifying - 14 men against one defenseless woman.


groggary fantasies about the day when 14 black dudes break into his house Cheesy LOL
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately. 


"proportionately"    Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.



I think I'm getting your drift. Even if every African was a criminal, which they are not, it would not matter because those who make up the majority commit more crimes. Therefore we should import more Africans because even if they are all crims, there are more non Africans committing crimes... Until we have more Africans that other people...

We have fine Sudanese people here in Lismore, very nice people, but your logic is flawed.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately. 


"proportionately"    Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.



I think I'm getting your drift. Even if every African was a criminal, which they are not, it would not matter because those who make up the majority commit more crimes. Therefore we should import more Africans because even if they are all crims, there are more non Africans committing crimes... Until we have more Africans that other people...

We have fine Sudanese people here in Lismore, very nice people, but your logic is flawed.



I've  met some very nice African people - including: doctors, lawyers, accountants and business people.
I am sure they are just as horrified as the rest of us at what their own countrymen are doing.
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80% of crime in Australia is committed by Lab and Lib supporters and voters. That's why the black African thugs are tolerated by the Libs and Labs - birds of a feather - associates in crime
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Setanta wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately. 


"proportionately"    Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.



I think I'm getting your drift. Even if every African was a criminal, which they are not, it would not matter because those who make up the majority commit more crimes. Therefore we should import more Africans because even if they are all crims, there are more non Africans committing crimes... Until we have more Africans that other people...

We have fine Sudanese people here in Lismore, very nice people, but your logic is flawed.


He used logic?  Where was that?
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:23pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.


Which non-African gangs are you talking about?


Most crime in this country is committed by non-Africans.

Come out from under your bed, Herbie.


What does that have to do with a crime spree by Africans?  That's the issue here - we'll get back to the rest later.... in the proper venue....

Now get your head out from under your bed and stop looking for a racist there..... you're as bad as the Liberals ranting about 'Union bullies' - same as the ancient and out-worn 'Reds Under The Bed'.....

Expand your mind, Grasshopper... there is much reality to see without the dross...


The Recent African Gangs With Obsession  .....

Fixed for ya - that'll be $1880 (GST inc) for sitting on a commission of Audit on Ozpol errors.....
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 1:04am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:23pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.


Which non-African gangs are you talking about?


Most crime in this country is committed by non-Africans.

Come out from under your bed, Herbie.


What does that have to do with a crime spree by Africans?  That's the issue here - we'll get back to the rest later.... in the proper venue....

.....


Every single day there's a crime spree by Australians and Kiwis in this country.

Every day, every week, every month, every year.

The media are doing with the "African crime gangs" story the same thing they do with "dog bites kid", "car runs into house", and "shark swims in ocean" stories.

Surely you're smart enough to see that.
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You're claiming these Africans as Australians .. yes?

So break it down to percentages of their ethnic demographic & tell us the % this crime spree is showing as in their group.

A small group that is over represented in the figures .. No?

But you justify that by playing the race card, the victim card, the disenfranchised card, the bored & unemployed card.

How about it just go under the "ungrateful for the opportunities" card?
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So break it down to percentages of their ethnic demographic & tell us the % this crime spree is showing as in their group.



Why would you want to do that?

Will that bring back your stolen car?

The majority of crime in this country is committed by Australian born criminals and Kiwi offenders.

It's a continual crime spree.

Don't let yourself be distracted by these ridiculous "news" stories.

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Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.


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Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
I've  met some very nice African people - including: doctors, lawyers, accountants and business people.
I am sure they are just as horrified as the rest of us at what their own countrymen are doing.


So WHY is the African leadership in this country protesting against our politicians and the media for 'going public' on what's happening down there in Melbourne? Why the calls for censorship-by-omission?
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.




Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?

You show your ignorance by not recognising that the small group of africans are commiting the biggest crimes day in day out. The crimes that effect the innocent civilians like my family etc and have a lasting effect for life.
A stolen car is not life lasting effect.
A stolen smartphone or appliance is not life lasting.
A large group kicking in the front door and holding your houshold at knife point while they have their way is a life lasting memory and I bet in most cases are life changing ones too, hence the families relocating to different areas around the country because their own gov has let them down dearly. Now that is what gets me about you lot sitting there quoting silly stats. Same as your christian male bullshit. I clearly gave you figures on wiki from islamic countries....yet you ignore it. And my abo stats....ignored.
The severity doesn't come into it with you lot. You just say aussies comit more crime. No sh1t sherlock. But look at the crime, the rate it is carried out, the severity of the crime and the percentage of the population commiting those crimes.

23 000 000 Australians vs 20,000 africans and the africans have the light on them. Go figure.

Basically the majority of people in this country are sick to death of PC allowing this to happen and it's time to stamp it out.

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Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.




Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?



You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:28am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.




Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?



You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.




I don't doubt that there was.
After the attacks are the dogs registered as dangerous...or better still, put down? Seems you have a savage dog problem over there atm.
What were the breeds of dog?

Comparing dog attacks to human attacks is not really compatible though. Humans know whats right and wrong....dogs act on instinct and training.



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Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:28am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.




Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?



You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.




I don't doubt that there was.
After the attacks are the dogs registered as dangerous...or better still, put down? Seems you have a savage dog problem over there atm.
What were the breeds of dog?

Comparing dog attacks to human attacks is not really compatible though. Humans know whats right and wrong....dogs act on instinct and training.





Once again, you've missed the point.

It's not about attacks, humans, gangs, or dogs.

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11am:
It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.



Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

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Reply #210 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11am:
Once again, you've missed the point.

It's not about attacks, humans, gangs, or dogs.

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.


Not the same as:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...


During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:14am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 1:04am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:23pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.


Which non-African gangs are you talking about?


Most crime in this country is committed by non-Africans.

Come out from under your bed, Herbie.


What does that have to do with a crime spree by Africans?  That's the issue here - we'll get back to the rest later.... in the proper venue....

.....


Every single day there's a crime spree by Australians and Kiwis in this country.

Every day, every week, every month, every year.

The media are doing with the "African crime gangs" story the same thing they do with "dog bites kid", "car runs into house", and "shark swims in ocean" stories.

Surely you're smart enough to see that.


Selectively editing again I see ...

you bloody hypocrite.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:28am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.




Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?



You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.




Yet again selectively editing ....

time for you to go .............again. Roll Eyes
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Reply #213 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11am:
Once again, you've missed the point.

It's not about attacks, humans, gangs, or dogs.

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.


Not the same as:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...


During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house
during a vicious home invasion.



Shut up, Booby.


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Reply #214 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:58pm
 
Greggy,
stop derailing this thread by posting pics of your gay TV idols.

When's the wedding Greggy?

Are we all invited?

Will you be the bride or the groom?
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11am:
It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.



Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

Or is EVERYONE in on it but only YOU know about it, Turd?




Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ...

Hang on, it's not exceeded.

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Reply #216 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 7:15am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11am:
It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.



Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

Or is EVERYONE in on it but only YOU know about it, Turd?




Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ...

Hang on, it's not exceeded.


Yes, we are familiar with this evasive move from Bwian, Karnal, Gandalf etc, Turd.
You insinuate, yoou get caught out, you dissemble and insinuate stupidity.
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Reply #217 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 7:26am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 7:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11am:
It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.



Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

Or is EVERYONE in on it but only YOU know about it, Turd?




Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ...

Hang on, it's not exceeded.


Yes, we are familiar with this evasive move from Bwian, Karnal, Gandalf etc, Turd.
You insinuate, yoou get caught out, you dissemble and insinuate stupidity. 


"insinuate" ?

Nah.

I'm saying it straight out.

Go back to Sunrise, sport - you might miss something important from Kochie.
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Reply #218 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 11:44am
 
Well Raven you live long enough you get to hear everything

Nice try but no cigar, trying to blame Sudanese African gang violence in Victoria on the Liberal Party

Hang on whilst I pick myself up the floor from laughing

You are seriously joking trying to align the African gangs with a bunch of beach bums misbehaving

The beach bums weren't orchestrating robbery after robbery after robbery with violence

The beach bums weren't doing home invasions with violence


The beach bums weren't carrying out attacks on property just for the hell of it

Seriously do you really think we are all that naïve?

The problem in Victoria is endemic and sustained

It is no going away without a major Policy shift by the Government either Victorian which won't happen under Daniels Andrews Labor's frightened stewardship

The only hope for Victorians is if the Federal Government get seriously involved and invoke the Homeland Security Act

In other words they need to deport these trouble makers with a one way stamp on their papers
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Reply #219 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:25pm
 
More violence in the last day:


When will the crime wave end?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253105/African-thugs-rob-two-Melbourne-...



Masked African thugs armed with hammers and knives raid two service stations in latest Melbourne gang crimes


    Two petrol stations were robbed by armed African youths within minutes
    They smashed their way in and threatened staff with hammers and knives
    Cash and cigarettes were stolen before they piled into a car and fled
    One cashier was slapped about the face and the other locked himself in the back.

African thugs armed with hammers and knives robbed two Melbourne petrol stations, hitting one of the cashiers in the face.

Four men smashed their way into a service station on the corner of Wood Street and Dalton Road in Thomastown about 4.45am on Wednesday.

They stole cigarettes and cash from the register while the attendant locked himself in the back room, before fleeing in a 4WD.


Minutes later, two men armed with a hammer and a knife entered another petrol station on Dalton Road and Keon Parade in nearby Keon Park.

The pair jumped over the counter and demanded the cashier open the register, before slapping him about the face several times.

Six other African youths then walked in and stole cash and cigarettes and drove off in a black sedan.

He's quite distraught,' Detective Senior Constable Mark Mulvany told the Herald Sun about the Keon Park shop's condition.

'The victim was slapped a number of times to the face during the ordeal and physically moved around he store but he did not sustain serious injuries.'

Police were investigating whether the two robberies were a coordinated strike, days after African gangs made headlines for a string of violent incidents.






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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately. 


"proportionately"    Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.




But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population. 

The Age, 8 Jan 2017

Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.

You can't just ignore it or pretend it's not significant. 4.8/0.11 = 43. They are 43 times more likely to commit aggrevated burglary than the rest of the population.


If they committed 0.11 of such crimes you would have a very valid point. But 43 times the average is not something anyone can ignore.






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Reply #221 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:46pm
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.



Not proportionately. 


"proportionately"    Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.




But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population. 

The Age, 8 Jan 2017

Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.

You can't just ignore it or pretend it's not significant. 4.8/0.11 = 43. They are 43 times more likely to commit aggrevated burglary than the rest of the population.


If they committed 0.11 of such crimes you would have a very valid point. But 43 times the average is not something anyone can ignore.









But as you can clearly see...people do and Australians have a right to be angry with what is happening. It will lead to another cronulla incident and the Aussies will be the ones punished.

These african bastards need to be sent home now. This is not their home...and never will be. They are already programed the way they are. No amount of dogooder influence will change that.
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Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?

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Reply #223 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:28am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 10:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.




See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.




Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?



You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.




Why is it that you're the only one who gets the "right" news?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #224 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?





What would the figures be if they made up 25% of the population. It's happening. They're being flown in every day.

Also, a shitbag aussie will rob a store and leave. Not these animals. They rob the store and then destroy it as well. It is getting out of hand. No matter what you say or believe, untill you are affected directly you will not care.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
More violence in the last day:


When will the crime wave end?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253105/African-thugs-rob-two-Melbourne-...



Masked African thugs armed with hammers and knives raid two service stations in latest Melbourne gang crimes


    Two petrol stations were robbed by armed African youths within minutes
    They smashed their way in and threatened staff with hammers and knives
    Cash and cigarettes were stolen before they piled into a car and fled
    One cashier was slapped about the face and the other locked himself in the back.

African thugs armed with hammers and knives robbed two Melbourne petrol stations, hitting one of the cashiers in the face.

Four men smashed their way into a service station on the corner of Wood Street and Dalton Road in Thomastown about 4.45am on Wednesday.

They stole cigarettes and cash from the register while the attendant locked himself in the back room, before fleeing in a 4WD.


Minutes later, two men armed with a hammer and a knife entered another petrol station on Dalton Road and Keon Parade in nearby Keon Park.

The pair jumped over the counter and demanded the cashier open the register, before slapping him about the face several times.

Six other African youths then walked in and stole cash and cigarettes and drove off in a black sedan.

He's quite distraught,' Detective Senior Constable Mark Mulvany told the Herald Sun about the Keon Park shop's condition.

'The victim was slapped a number of times to the face during the ordeal and physically moved around he store but he did not sustain serious injuries.'

Police were investigating whether the two robberies were a coordinated strike, days after African gangs made headlines for a string of violent incidents.




Didn't anyone read that?
It happened last night.

Melbourne is out of control.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


I am concerned about them. But they are much less of a problem PER CAPITA than the Africans.

If these figures were returns on the investment of your own money you would have no difficult comprehending the difference between 0.11 of the population being responsible for 4.8% of your losses.

But you pretend, despite your better sense, to be a bigger fool than you think you ought to be. What does that remind you of?  I don't know who you think you are impressing.





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Reply #227 - Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
More violence in the last day:


When will the crime wave end?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253105/African-thugs-rob-two-Melbourne-...



Masked African thugs armed with hammers and knives raid two service stations in latest Melbourne gang crimes


    Two petrol stations were robbed by armed African youths within minutes
    They smashed their way in and threatened staff with hammers and knives
    Cash and cigarettes were stolen before they piled into a car and fled
    One cashier was slapped about the face and the other locked himself in the back.

African thugs armed with hammers and knives robbed two Melbourne petrol stations, hitting one of the cashiers in the face.

Four men smashed their way into a service station on the corner of Wood Street and Dalton Road in Thomastown about 4.45am on Wednesday.

They stole cigarettes and cash from the register while the attendant locked himself in the back room, before fleeing in a 4WD.


Minutes later, two men armed with a hammer and a knife entered another petrol station on Dalton Road and Keon Parade in nearby Keon Park.

The pair jumped over the counter and demanded the cashier open the register, before slapping him about the face several times.

Six other African youths then walked in and stole cash and cigarettes and drove off in a black sedan.

He's quite distraught,' Detective Senior Constable Mark Mulvany told the Herald Sun about the Keon Park shop's condition.

'The victim was slapped a number of times to the face during the ordeal and physically moved around he store but he did not sustain serious injuries.'

Police were investigating whether the two robberies were a coordinated strike, days after African gangs made headlines for a string of violent incidents.




Didn't anyone read that?
It happened last night.

Melbourne is out of control.



Those thugs need to be forcibly removed from Australia, put them on a plane back to Africa
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Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Those thugs need to be forcibly removed from Australia, put them on a plane back to Africa



Everyone in Melbourne is  living in fear.

It's hard to imagine say 14 of them turning up at your place -
as happened to one defenseless woman.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


So you would also ignore all  nationality-based organised crime because perpetrators are only a small proportion of society? 

Conversely, you would also ignore and not reward high achievers because 96.2 of the population is not high achievers?


You insist on crap not even you believe, Turd.

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Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

Those thugs need to be forcibly removed from Australia, put them on a plane back to Africa



I could think of a much simpler and cheaper alternative.



Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:41pm:

Everyone in Melbourne is  living in fear.




Not true bobby.

I'm not living in fear.             Tongue



Assessment of the situ. by Yadda:
Clearly the Vic. government does not consider that mobs of young men [exclusively from the immigrant Sudanese community] committing violent criminal acts, as a very important community issue.

[i.e. because if they did,              they would be         DOING SOMETHING TO DETER THESE ATTACKS BY SUDANESE 'YOUTH']

No ?


RATHER:
The Vic. government is actually waiting for an incident, where these young men [exclusively from the immigrant Sudanese community]           FIRST violently kill someone in one of their 'social excursions'.
[AND I AM PREDICTING THAT IT WILL HAPPEN!  .....AND SOON.]

Preferably the victim will be an individual who is a close, and loved relative, of a Victorian politician [preferably a relative of the Premier, or the current Police Minister]......
.....AFTER THAT OCCURRENCE, then the Vic. government will         SEEK TO 'DO SOMETHING'         to prevent and deter such behaviour.


No ?


Dictionary;
occurrence = = a thing that occurs; an incident or event.


Duh!


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Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


So you would also ignore all  nationality-based organised crime because perpetrators are only a small proportion of society? 

Conversely, you would also ignore and not reward high achievers because 96.2 of the population is not high achievers?


You insist on crap not even you believe, Turd.



I've said nothing about ignoring crime.

Have you had your beady little eyes checked lately?

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:41pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Those thugs need to be forcibly removed from Australia, put them on a plane back to Africa



Everyone in Melbourne is  living in fear.



Nope.

Only you, Booby.

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Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high, why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.
STOP IMMIGRATION NOW
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Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez


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Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez



What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.
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Reply #236 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:40pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez



What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.


I think you should get involved.

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Reply #237 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:40pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez



What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.


I think you should get involved.


I think you should get less involved for the good of mankind.
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Reply #238 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:46pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:40pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez



What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.


I think you should get involved.


I think you should get less involved for the good of mankind.


Chicken, huh?

I thought as much.
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Reply #239 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:40pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez



What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.


I think you should get involved.


I think you should get less involved for the good of mankind.


Chicken, huh?

I thought as much.
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Wadaya mean Gronk?
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Reply #240 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez




What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.






Quote:

"Right is only in question between equals, and while the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must."


- Thucydides (460-400 B.C.) Greek Historian



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jeez,

Circa 2018, Australia, citizens of Australia do not have many real rights anymore.

Most real rights and protections in Australia, circa 2018, are reserved for politicians and police officers.

e.g.
Our politicians        ACTUALLY        allow police officers to go around our streets, while armed with prohibited firearms on their person !

Because police officers, we are assured,         need to be able to protect themselves AND politicians from terrorists and violent criminals.     !!!!!

Q.
Why else would commissioned police officers, be allowed to go around our streets and suburbs, armed with prohibited firearms, on their person ???


jeez,

We also see, that peaceful, law-abiding citizens of Australia [i.e. many people without a single criminal conviction],             are,          IN LAW,           not permitted to be in possession of any device or 'instrument' that could be used to defend themselves from violent criminal attack.


jeez,

Our politicians.

YOU [Australian citizens] voted them in!!!!



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bump



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Reply #242 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Dutton got stuck into the Vic premier today, that's good but i see immigration levels are still at an all time high,


why import more trouble makers from a known origin when we cant even deal with the extra trouble that exists NOW.


STOP IMMIGRATION NOW






You make sense, to me, jeez




What is it going to take Yadda, do people have be involved in, or to witness themselves the trauma to come around.






Quote:

"Right is only in question between equals, and while the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must."


- Thucydides (460-400 B.C.) Greek Historian



.



jeez,

Circa 2018, Australia, citizens of Australia do not have many real rights anymore.

Most real rights and protections in Australia, circa 2018, are reserved for politicians and police officers.

e.g.
Our politicians        ACTUALLY        allow police officers to go around our streets, while armed with prohibited firearms on their person !

Because police officers, we are assured,         need to be able to protect themselves AND politicians from terrorists and violent criminals.     !!!!!

Q.
Why else would commissioned police officers, be allowed to go around our streets and suburbs, armed with prohibited firearms, on their person ???


jeez,

We also see, that peaceful, law-abiding citizens of Australia [i.e. many people without a single criminal conviction],             are,          IN LAW,           not permitted to be in possession of any device or 'instrument' that could be used to defend themselves from violent criminal attack.


jeez,

Our politicians.

YOU [Australian citizens] voted them in!!!!




I didn't vote them in and i think it is high times we were allowed firearms to protect ourselves, just as the cops do, i don't live in a place like Turnbull  with lots of machine guns at the ready to protect me and mine.
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Reply #243 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515169305/240#240
Quote:

e.g.
Our politicians        ACTUALLY        allow police officers to go around our streets, while armed with prohibited firearms on their person !

Because police officers, we are assured,         need to be able to protect themselves AND politicians from terrorists and violent criminals.     !!!!!

Q.
Why else would commissioned police officers, be allowed to go around our streets and suburbs, armed with prohibited firearms, on their person ???





There are 'special-ly' trained units within all state police forces, that are 'available' to be assigned to protect individual politicians AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.

But ordinary citizens do not 'qualify' for such specialised protection from members of the police force.

Ordinary citizens [not being police officers or, politicians],
i.e. peaceful, law-abiding citizens of Australia [i.e. many people without a single criminal conviction],
clearly are not 'important enough' to be afforded any protection, or, any proper and effective means of protecting themselves from violent criminals.


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Reply #244 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:38pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:31pm:


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515169305/240#240
Quote:

e.g.
Our politicians        ACTUALLY        allow police officers to go around our streets, while armed with prohibited firearms on their person !

Because police officers, we are assured,         need to be able to protect themselves AND politicians from terrorists and violent criminals.     !!!!!

Q.
Why else would commissioned police officers, be allowed to go around our streets and suburbs, armed with prohibited firearms, on their person ???





There are 'special-ly' trained units within all state police forces, that are 'available' to be assigned to protect individual politicians AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.

But ordinary citizens do not 'qualify' for such specialised protection from members of the police force.

Ordinary citizens [not being police officers or, politicians],
i.e. peaceful, law-abiding citizens of Australia [i.e. many people without a single criminal conviction],
clearly are not 'important enough' to be afforded any protection, or, any proper and effective means of protecting themselves from violent criminals.




True - even if you have proof that someone was trying to kill you,

you cannot legally purchase a firearm for defense.

Your only legal way to avoid death would be leave the country
and live somewhere else under another name.
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Reply #245 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:42pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:31pm:


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515169305/240#240
Quote:

e.g.
Our politicians        ACTUALLY        allow police officers to go around our streets, while armed with prohibited firearms on their person !

Because police officers, we are assured,         need to be able to protect themselves AND politicians from terrorists and violent criminals.     !!!!!

Q.
Why else would commissioned police officers, be allowed to go around our streets and suburbs, armed with prohibited firearms, on their person ???





There are 'special-ly' trained units within all state police forces, that are 'available' to be assigned to protect individual politicians AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.

But ordinary citizens do not 'qualify' for such specialised protection from members of the police force.

Ordinary citizens [not being police officers or, politicians],
i.e. peaceful, law-abiding citizens of Australia [i.e. many people without a single criminal conviction],
clearly are not 'important enough' to be afforded any protection, or, any proper and effective means of protecting themselves from violent criminals.



I would not be able to drive from one side of a city to the other with a broken tail light without being picked up and booked, perhaps a redeployment of available resources may help alleviate the current problems.
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Reply #246 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 



Yadda wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:31pm:


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515169305/240#240
Quote:

e.g.
Our politicians        ACTUALLY        allow police officers to go around our streets, while armed with prohibited firearms on their person !

Because police officers, we are assured,         need to be able to protect themselves AND politicians from terrorists and violent criminals.     !!!!!

Q.
Why else would commissioned police officers, be allowed to go around our streets and suburbs, armed with prohibited firearms, on their person ???





There are 'special-ly' trained units within all state police forces, that are 'available' to be assigned to protect individual politicians AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.

But ordinary citizens do not 'qualify' for such specialised protection from members of the police force.

Ordinary citizens [not being police officers or, politicians],
i.e. peaceful, law-abiding citizens of Australia [i.e. many people without a single criminal conviction],
clearly are not 'important enough' to be afforded any protection, or, any proper and effective means of protecting themselves from violent criminals.





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Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
True - even if you have proof that someone was trying to kill you,

you cannot legally purchase a firearm for defense.

Your only legal way to avoid death would be leave the country
and live somewhere else under another name.




bobby,

I apologise for the length of my post [above].

I know i should try to make them much shorter,      especially for you.               Wink               Grin



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Reply #247 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 8:19pm
 
You mean like this?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/african-men-armed-with-machete-and-la...

African men armed with machete and large rock rob Melbourne service station

A LOTTO worker has been stabbed in the upper body after a violent struggle in Croydon.

The stabbing comes hours after another terrifying robbery where African thugs held up a Narre Warren service station in the early hours of this morning.

The Herald Sun has been told a man aged in his 50s was seen covered in blood outside Croydon Lotto on Main Street about 7.30am this morning.

It is understood a masked offender entered the shop and demanded money.

The worker was then stabbed after a violent struggle with the armed attacker who fled on foot.

“It looks like there’s been a tussle and the man has been stabbed in his left arm,” said Dean Kruger, who arrived on scene shortly after the stabbing.

“He was wearing a white polo shirt which was bloodied across half his chest to where the sleeve finished at the elbow.”

Paramedics treated the Croydon lotto worker, who was later taken to hospital.

He managed to walk from the shop to the ambulance and appears to be in a stable condition.

A Victoria Police spokeswoman said the man fled on foot with cash and was last seen on Lacey Street.

The male staff member is being treated for non-life threatening injuries.

The offender is described as a caucasian male, approximately 183cm tall with a medium to thin build.

He was last seen wearing dark-coloured clothing, white beanie and maroon- coloured runners.

Police are investigating.

The Croydon incident comes hours after two African men stormed a United petrol station on Heatherton Rd in Narre Warren with a machete and large rock about 4am.

The male worker, left shaken but uninjured, told a colleague he was scared for his safety and pleaded with the offenders to take the money and go.

“The two guys came in. He said they were threatening me to ‘give us money, give us money, give us money’.

He was scared and he opened the till for him and said ‘take whatever you want, take everything but don’t hurt me’,” the colleague told Nine News.

It is understood the thugs took off with about $300 in cash.

“Its quite scary because in the night time this is a really quiet area so it’s scary … bad things happen here lots of the time. We had a robbery last year as well,” the man’s colleague said.

Dean Grande, Detective Senior Sergeant at Casey Crime Investigation Unit, told the Herald Sun there was no CCTV of the Narre Warren armed robbery.

“We are looking for witnesses to come forward,” he said.

“If anybody driving through the area around the time of the robbery has any dashcam footage they should come forward.

“Unfortunately there is no CCTV at the venue, which makes life more difficult.

“It has happened at 3.55am. The attendant has gone outside to take the rubbish to the bins.

“He hasn’t locked the door and they have followed him in.

“One was armed with a machete and a rock. They have demanded cash from the register and left the venue.

“We don’t know if they left the area on foot or in a vehicle.

“It is obviously very concerning.”

Both offenders were described as being tall, and had their faces covered by T-shirts.

It’s the third service station to have been targeted by African thugs in as many days.

Australasian Association of Convenience Stores CEO Jeff Rogut has publicly called for action to protect workers who are “feeling less and less safe” amid the crime crisis.

“Each week we read reports of criminal gangs perpetuating violent crimes and robberies, with service stations and convenience stores in particular being targeted by these criminals.

“What we don’t read about are any real deterrents to these crimes,” said Mr Rogut.

“Service station robberies are happening almost every day. Surely as a state we can’t accept this as the new norm.”

Mr Rogut has revealed he will rally police, politicians and industry stakeholders to support a judicial crackdown on criminals who target businesses and inflict serious trauma on workers.

“We will be encouraging our many members, and the thousands of employees in the convenience industry in Victoria, to pressure their local members and use their vote to reinforce a zero-tolerance approach to crime,” he said.

“We are at the point where the only stance on crime left to take is a tough one. Small business demands it and so do members of the community.”

The police investigation is ongoing for both the Narre Warren and Croydon incidents."
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Reply #248 - Jan 12th, 2018 at 8:21pm
 
Good thing it was only Narre Warren and not Wide Warren - think of the trouble in the wide open spaces.......

Page Turner!  Fix-ee speed of strands or lose-ee contract!!

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Equal opportunity there to satisfy Greg and Brian... one White and two Blecks..... Wink  Grin
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?



Are you saying there are only white Australians, Kiwis and Sudanese living in Melbourne? No Arabs, Aboriginals, Pakis, Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc... Or are only whites Australians, Kiwis and Sudanese doing crimes?

I'm curious...

edit: Perhaps we should increase their number to 1.1% and see if they commit 48% of aggravated burglaries. If you can't see their extreme over representation in violent crime as a problem now, at what level will it become a problem? As I have said here before, my eldest son has lived in Melbourne since he was 19, hes 30 this year, he's been robbed at knife point by Sudanese, not once by any other ethnic group. They have a problem down there and trying to "white" wash it will not help.

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MauMaulbourne... Bendigeirut .... out Liverpool way in Sydney they could set up Khartoumwright ... Narrabri easily converts to Nairobi... (easier than Widebri anyway)
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This should read:-

The Recent "Obsession" with African Gangs......
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


So you would also ignore all  nationality-based organised crime because perpetrators are only a small proportion of society? 

Conversely, you would also ignore and not reward high achievers because 96.2 of the population is not high achievers?


You insist on crap not even you believe, Turd.



I've said nothing about ignoring crime.

Have you had your beady little eyes checked lately?




So you want people to show concern about all crime. Done.

Africans do much more violent crime than their numbers would predict. So African thuggery is a big problem. Not the only one but a big one. And we are duly concerned about all crime.

So what can be done about stopping lawless Africans  in Australia?

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Reply #254 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:33pm
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


So you would also ignore all  nationality-based organised crime because perpetrators are only a small proportion of society? 

Conversely, you would also ignore and not reward high achievers because 96.2 of the population is not high achievers?


You insist on crap not even you believe, Turd.



I've said nothing about ignoring crime.

Have you had your beady little eyes checked lately?




So you want people to show concern about all crime. Done.

Africans do much more violent crime than their numbers would predict. So African thuggery is a big problem. Not the only one but a big one. And we are duly concerned about all crime.

So what can be done about stopping lawless Africans  in Australia?


Nothing now as they are here and multiplying, we can only stem the supply or stop the supply.
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Reply #255 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:34pm
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


So you would also ignore all  nationality-based organised crime because perpetrators are only a small proportion of society? 

Conversely, you would also ignore and not reward high achievers because 96.2 of the population is not high achievers?


You insist on crap not even you believe, Turd.



I've said nothing about ignoring crime.

Have you had your beady little eyes checked lately?




So you want people to show concern about all crime. Done.

Africans do much more violent crime than their numbers would predict. So African thuggery is a big problem. Not the only one but a big one. And we are duly concerned about all crime.

So what can be done about stopping lawless Africans  in Australia?



Most violent crime is carried out by non-Africans.

You don't seem to want to confront this fact.

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Johnnie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:33pm:

Nothing now as they are here and multiplying, we can only stem the supply or stop the supply.



The Africans have turned their whole continent into a shithole
and they they want to do the same to Australia.

Ask Trump if you don't believe me.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:33pm:

Nothing now as they are here and multiplying, we can only stem the supply or stop the supply.



The Africans have turned their whole continent into a shithole
and they they want to do the same to Australia.

Ask Trump if you don't believe me.

All the Africans need to go back home and try to make a go of it, they have all the riches back there and just need to learn some management skills, it will surely come over time. They  are becoming less and less welcomed here, or anywhere really.
STOP IMPORTING SAVAGES or anyone.
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #258 - Jan 14th, 2018 at 7:45am
 
Donald Trump got it right..when he expressed concern about immigrants coming from African sh.thole Countries

They come in the Sudanese case from a Country where violence IS the culture

It is nothing for them to gang up grab their machetes and go out and create mayhem

This is what it was like in their own Country

Why are we importing our problems because the most sinister organisation in the World..the United Nations wants us to
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #259 - Jan 14th, 2018 at 7:46am
 
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #260 - Jan 14th, 2018 at 8:30am
 
red baron wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 7:45am:
Donald Trump got it right..when he expressed concern about immigrants coming from African sh.thole Countries

They come in the Sudanese case from a Country where violence IS the culture

It is nothing for them to gang up grab their machetes and go out and create mayhem

This is what it was like in their own Country

Why are we importing our problems because the most sinister organisation in the World..the United Nations wants us to



Yep - we've seen it on TV -
one village will go an the rampage & kill
everyone in another village with machetes.
This is normal behaviour.

Why did we bring them here?
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #261 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:34pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 6:24pm:
Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.



4.8 percent?  Pfft   Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?


So you would also ignore all  nationality-based organised crime because perpetrators are only a small proportion of society? 

Conversely, you would also ignore and not reward high achievers because 96.2 of the population is not high achievers?


You insist on crap not even you believe, Turd.



I've said nothing about ignoring crime.

Have you had your beady little eyes checked lately?




So you want people to show concern about all crime. Done.

Africans do much more violent crime than their numbers would predict. So African thuggery is a big problem. Not the only one but a big one. And we are duly concerned about all crime.

So what can be done about stopping lawless Africans  in Australia?



Most violent crime is carried out by non-Africans.

You don't seem to want to confront this fact.


You confront that fact differently.

The Sudanese are not Aborigines or Islanders or Vietnamese or Lebanese or Afghans. You don't seem to want to recognise that fact.


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Reply #262 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 5:46pm
 
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You confront that fact differently.


Agnes, that makes no sense, and why the (non illegal) sock?
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Reply #263 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:09pm
 
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #264 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
Seriously, could you imagine gangs running amok under Donald Trump in America?

What is happening in Victoria and is starting to emerge in Brisbane is totally unacceptable

If you do not deal with a problem when it is relatively small then it will grow in the absence of any real opposition

This is exactly how Hitler and his cronies gained a foothold in Germany

They started the brownshirts who went around smashing and bashing and robbing the Jews

When there was no real opposition to their activities they grew ever bolder

The rest is history

A read of what unfolded in Germany is required reading because you can see how the Nazis Party grew from a small acorn because of the lack of will and weak kneed responses from the ruling Party in Germany

Don't think for a second that the Sudanese in Melbourne couldn't turn this into something very much larger

They need to be hit now, and hit hard and deadly serious consequences should follow for the perpetrators
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #265 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #266 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:27pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
Seriously, could you imagine gangs running amok under Donald Trump in America?

What is happening in Victoria and is starting to emerge in Brisbane is totally unacceptable

If you do not deal with a problem when it is relatively small then it will grow in the absence of any real opposition

This is exactly how Hitler and his cronies gained a foothold in Germany

They started the brownshirts who went around smashing and bashing and robbing the Jews

When there was no real opposition to their activities they grew ever bolder

The rest is history

A read of what unfolded in Germany is required reading because you can see how the Nazis Party grew from a small acorn because of the lack of will and weak kneed responses from the ruling Party in Germany

Don't think for a second that the Sudanese in Melbourne couldn't turn this into something very much larger

They need to be hit now, and hit hard and deadly serious consequences should follow for the perpetrators



Get a rope - that will fix them.
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #267 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:37pm
 
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Reply #268 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 6:40pm
 
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #269 - Jan 17th, 2018 at 7:39am
 
I have said what is required to be done in Victoria

However the Labor Government there has set up the dominos for a very different outcome

Weak kneed Daniel Andrews has dithered around like a chook

Not only that but his Government has delivered Civil Libertarian Magistrates who basically are a bunch of soft cocks

This end game is that Victoria will be white anted by the African Gangs until a tipping point arrives where the Public there will simply refuse to put up with it any longer

Already there is an opposition group called True Blue forming to go out and get vigilante justice
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
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