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Reply #210 - Jan 9^th, 2018 at 6:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

Once again, you've missed the point.

It's not about attacks, humans, gangs, or dogs.

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.

Not the same as:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house
during a vicious home invasion.

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Reply #211 - Jan 9^th, 2018 at 7:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 7:14am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 1:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 10:23pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.

Which non-African gangs are you talking about?

Most crime in this country is committed by non-Africans.

Come out from under your bed, Herbie.

What does that have to do with a crime spree by Africans? That's the issue here - we'll get back to the rest later.... in the proper venue....

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Every single day there's a crime spree by Australians and Kiwis in this country.

Every day, every week, every month, every year.

The media are doing with the "African crime gangs" story the same thing they do with "dog bites kid", "car runs into house", and "shark swims in ocean" stories.

Surely you're smart enough to see that.

Selectively editing again I see ...

you bloody hypocrite.

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #212 - Jan 9^th, 2018 at 7:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 10:28am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 9:20am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 8:47am:

Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.

See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.

Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?

You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.

Yet again selectively editing ....

time for you to go .............again. Roll Eyes

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #213 - Jan 9^th, 2018 at 7:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 6:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

Once again, you've missed the point.

It's not about attacks, humans, gangs, or dogs.

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.

Not the same as:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5244499/Shoeless-African-man-robbed-Melb...

During the crime spree, a 59-year-old woman has been hit across the face and forced to wait in terror as up to
14 men of African appearance ransacked her house
during a vicious home invasion.

Shut up, Booby.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95268 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs” Reply #214 - Jan 9^th, 2018 at 7:58pm Greggy, stop derailing this thread by posting pics of your gay TV idols. When's the wedding Greggy? Are we all invited? Will you be the bride or the groom?
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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #215 - Jan 9^th, 2018 at 8:03pm

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.

Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

Or is EVERYONE in on it but only YOU know about it, Turd?

Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ...

Hang on, it's not exceeded.

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #216 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 7:15am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 8:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.

Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

Or is EVERYONE in on it but only YOU know about it, Turd?

Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ...

Hang on, it's not exceeded.

Yes, we are familiar with this evasive move from Bwian, Karnal, Gandalf etc, Turd.
You insinuate, yoou get caught out, you dissemble and insinuate stupidity.

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #217 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 7:26am

Frank wrote on Jan 10^th, 2018 at 7:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 8:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

It's about what the media reports (and doesn't report).

Replace "savage dog attacks" with "stolen bikes" or "car drives into house" or even "cat gets stuck up tree", and it's still the same story.

Just because you don't hear about bikes being stolen, cars driving into houses, or cats getting stuck up trees in the news every day it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

The media is brainwashing you.

Give us examples of savage non-African home invasions NOT reported by the media.

They would still bee on thee police bulletins even if there was a conspiracy by media outlets not to report them.

Or are you also suggesting that the police, aware of violent non-African home invasions, deliberately cover them up? If so you should talk to your MP and the corruption commission in your state and the Australian Press Council.

Or is EVERYONE in on it but only YOU know about it, Turd?

Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ...

Hang on, it's not exceeded.

Yes, we are familiar with this evasive move from Bwian, Karnal, Gandalf etc, Turd.
You insinuate, yoou get caught out, you dissemble and insinuate stupidity.

"insinuate" ?

Nah.

I'm saying it straight out.

Go back to Sunrise, sport - you might miss something important from Kochie.

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Reply #218 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 11:44am

Well Raven you live long enough you get to hear everything

Nice try but no cigar, trying to blame Sudanese African gang violence in Victoria on the Liberal Party

Hang on whilst I pick myself up the floor from laughing

You are seriously joking trying to align the African gangs with a bunch of beach bums misbehaving

The beach bums weren't orchestrating robbery after robbery after robbery with violence

The beach bums weren't doing home invasions with violence

The beach bums weren't carrying out attacks on property just for the hell of it

Seriously do you really think we are all that naïve?

The problem in Victoria is endemic and sustained

It is no going away without a major Policy shift by the Government either Victorian which won't happen under Daniels Andrews Labor's frightened stewardship

The only hope for Victorians is if the Federal Government get seriously involved and invoke the Homeland Security Act

In other words they need to deport these trouble makers with a one way stamp on their papers

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #219 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 5:25pm

More violence in the last day:

When will the crime wave end?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253105/African-thugs-rob-two-Melbourne-...

Masked African thugs armed with hammers and knives raid two service stations in latest Melbourne gang crimes

Two petrol stations were robbed by armed African youths within minutes
They smashed their way in and threatened staff with hammers and knives
Cash and cigarettes were stolen before they piled into a car and fled
One cashier was slapped about the face and the other locked himself in the back.

African thugs armed with hammers and knives robbed two Melbourne petrol stations, hitting one of the cashiers in the face.

Four men smashed their way into a service station on the corner of Wood Street and Dalton Road in Thomastown about 4.45am on Wednesday.

They stole cigarettes and cash from the register while the attendant locked himself in the back room, before fleeing in a 4WD.

Minutes later, two men armed with a hammer and a knife entered another petrol station on Dalton Road and Keon Parade in nearby Keon Park.

The pair jumped over the counter and demanded the cashier open the register, before slapping him about the face several times.

Six other African youths then walked in and stole cash and cigarettes and drove off in a black sedan.

He's quite distraught,' Detective Senior Constable Mark Mulvany told the Herald Sun about the Keon Park shop's condition.

'The victim was slapped a number of times to the face during the ordeal and physically moved around he store but he did not sustain serious injuries.'

Police were investigating whether the two robberies were a coordinated strike, days after African gangs made headlines for a string of violent incidents.

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Reply #220 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 10:22pm:

Bertie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.

Not proportionately.

"proportionately" Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.

But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population.

The Age, 8 Jan 2017

Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.

You can't just ignore it or pretend it's not significant. 4.8/0.11 = 43. They are 43 times more likely to commit aggrevated burglary than the rest of the population.

If they committed 0.11 of such crimes you would have a very valid point. But 43 times the average is not something anyone can ignore.

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Reply #221 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:46pm

Bertie wrote on Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 10:22pm:

Bertie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

Most crime is committed by non-Africans, Booby.

Not proportionately.

"proportionately" Grin

Who cares about that?

A crime is a crime, and most are committed by non-Africans in this country.

But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population.

The Age, 8 Jan 2017

Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.

You can't just ignore it or pretend it's not significant. 4.8/0.11 = 43. They are 43 times more likely to commit aggrevated burglary than the rest of the population.

If they committed 0.11 of such crimes you would have a very valid point. But 43 times the average is not something anyone can ignore.

But as you can clearly see...people do and Australians have a right to be angry with what is happening. It will lead to another cronulla incident and the Aussies will be the ones punished.

These african bastards need to be sent home now. This is not their home...and never will be. They are already programed the way they are. No amount of dogooder influence will change that.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131477 Gender:	Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs” Reply #222 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:50pm Bertie wrote on Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:24pm: Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders. 4.8 percent? Pfft Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?
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Reply #223 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 10:28am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 9:20am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2018 at 8:47am:

Yeah. I read a story just yesterday of 10 aussies and 5 kiwis breaking into a house and holding the residence at knofe point while they trashed the house, stole what they wanted and took off in the families car.
Yep. These aussies and kiwis are out of control.

See, that's exactly where you show your ignorance.

You actually believe that every crime committed in this country is reported on the nightly "news".

According to you, if it wasn't on the 6 o'clock "news", it didn't happen.

Such utter stupidity and naivety is hard to comprehend, at times.

Hehe.
What if I don't watch the news, or tv for that matter?
What now?

You're getting your "news" from somewhere.

Where, exactly, isn't important.

According to you, if you don't know about it, it never happened.

And, everything you have heard about is all that's happened.

That's absolutely ridiculous.

I've used this example before, and I'll use it again ...

Did you hear of any reports of dogs savagely attacking anyone in Perth last week?

No?

That means there were no attacks then, right?

Wrong.

A friend of mine in the police force assures me that at least 15 (on average) savage dog attacks are reported to police in Perth every week.

Check with the police yourself - it's true.

Now, when the media hear about one of those attacks, they go to the police and ask if there have been any others.

The police tell them of all the other attacks that have occurred that week, and voila! - "Wave of savage dog attacks hits Perth".

They ignore the fact that this goes on every single week (and that they just weren't aware of it).

Don't be brainwashed by the stupid media, no matter what source you use.

Why is it that you're the only one who gets the "right" news? Roll Eyes

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Re: The Recent Obsession With “African Gangs”
Reply #224 - Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:50pm:

Bertie wrote on Jan 10^th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Sudanese make up just 0.11 per cent of Victoria's population but 4.8 per cent of aggravated burglary offenders.

4.8 percent? Pfft Roll Eyes

Why aren't you concerned about the other 95.2 percent committed by white Australians and Kiwis?

What would the figures be if they made up 25% of the population. It's happening. They're being flown in every day.

Also, a shitbag aussie will rob a store and leave. Not these animals. They rob the store and then destroy it as well. It is getting out of hand. No matter what you say or believe, untill you are affected directly you will not care.

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