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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #60 - Jan 12^th, 2018 at 7:00pm

Auggie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

You are avoiding my question FD. Can you confirm that in terms of what constitutes hate speech you don't think there is any difference between accusing someone of white anting and comparing muslim immigrants to termites? We're not talking about whether there is a difference in the literal meaning.

And I stand by my claim that a speaker who wanted to come to Australia to argue how muslim immigrants really come here as some sinister agenda to "white ant" society and bring it down by stealth jihad - would likely be banned for hate speech.

But if an Islamist comes to Australia then they won’t be banned.

See the double-standarD.

No double standard. I would expect an Islamist who wished to come here to spout hate-speech against non-muslims would be barred as well.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Wu Ting Feng New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29 Gender:	Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat Reply #61 - Jan 12^th, 2018 at 7:08pm I have not thought too much about this, but my basic position would be to let them all in to have their say. What harm can be done. If they are preaching bigotry and hatred, they won't attract much of an audience and will soon go home.
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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #62 - Jan 12^th, 2018 at 7:25pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

You are avoiding my question FD. Can you confirm that in terms of what constitutes hate speech you don't think there is any difference between accusing someone of white anting and comparing muslim immigrants to termites? We're not talking about whether there is a difference in the literal meaning.

And I stand by my claim that a speaker who wanted to come to Australia to argue how muslim immigrants really come here as some sinister agenda to "white ant" society and bring it down by stealth jihad - would likely be banned for hate speech.

But if an Islamist comes to Australia then they won’t be banned.

See the double-standarD.

No double standard. I would expect an Islamist who wished to come here to spout hate-speech against non-muslims would be barred as well.

So, who's to determine what's hate-speech? You, Gandalf?

No, my view is to let both of them speak, and let the people laugh at them as they do it.

BTW: do you support Sharia law to be the sole law of Australia?

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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #63 - Jan 12^th, 2018 at 8:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

You are avoiding my question FD. Can you confirm that in terms of what constitutes hate speech you don't think there is any difference between accusing someone of white anting and comparing muslim immigrants to termites? We're not talking about whether there is a difference in the literal meaning.

And I stand by my claim that a speaker who wanted to come to Australia to argue how muslim immigrants really come here as some sinister agenda to "white ant" society and bring it down by stealth jihad - would likely be banned for hate speech.

But if an Islamist comes to Australia then they won’t be banned.

See the double-standarD.

No double standard. I would expect an Islamist who wished to come here to spout hate-speech against non-muslims would be barred as well.

What if he accused them of white anting?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

You are avoiding my question FD. Can you confirm that in terms of what constitutes hate speech you don't think there is any difference between accusing someone of white anting and comparing muslim immigrants to termites? We're not talking about whether there is a difference in the literal meaning.

And I stand by my claim that a speaker who wanted to come to Australia to argue how muslim immigrants really come here as some sinister agenda to "white ant" society and bring it down by stealth jihad - would likely be banned for hate speech.

There is no difference in the literal or the figurative meaning Gandalf.

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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #64 - Jan 12^th, 2018 at 8:35pm

Meanwhile.....*Aussie* strolls along (because there seems little else activity here at the moment) and notes the Thread Title. *He* does not read the preceding four pages.

Given the firepower of the West, particularly in the air.....any place the pricks were, I would obliterate. I would warn (many times) any one who was not of ISIS persuasion in that area to bugger off. And then, I would destroy the place from the air.

They will move and I will keep following them with the same tactic.

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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #65 - Jan 12^th, 2018 at 9:01pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

Meanwhile.....*Aussie* strolls along (because there seems little else activity here at the moment) and notes the Thread Title. *He* does not read the preceding four pages.

Given the firepower of the West, particularly in the air.....any place the pricks were, I would obliterate. I would warn (many times) any one who was not of ISIS persuasion in that area to bugger off. And then, I would destroy the place from the air.

They will move and I will keep following them with the same tactic.

Spoken like a fried chicken stuck out somewhere on the outer edges of a gold course.

Western civilisation must be asserted against Islam at very opportunity. Like a dam, it must be constantly fortified and it must not be allowed to be eroded by the steady and relentless pressure of Islam.

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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #66 - Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:35am

It is not actual the catholics or Christians being at war with the Muslims (well, if you look at this way, each of them including the Jews at some stage or another had been at war with just about everyone else.) I think it is the conflicts are actually between human and human.

If its just a scroll or a book in the middle of no where. There is no way it would have caused any war or suffering. But rather, its men's own interpretation, its limitation of own understanding and mis-understanding that have caused the war.

We humans had being a war with each each, and ourselves for countless generations. If its not for the Muslims, it would have being someone or something else.

The solutions to war is never about complete or utter destruction, nor about isolation. The path to peace is only through mutual respect and understanding.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21743 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat Reply #67 - Jan 18^th, 2018 at 11:52pm How to defeat them: Tell them that the chickens are just pigs with feathers. You will see mass suicides within weeks. Then the rest of them will go "Yeah, right" but thank you for your novelty.
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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #68 - Jan 20^th, 2018 at 6:38pm

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

It is not actual the catholics or Christians being at war with the Muslims (well, if you look at this way, each of them including the Jews at some stage or another had been at war with just about everyone else.) I think it is the conflicts are actually between human and human.

If its just a scroll or a book in the middle of no where. There is no way it would have caused any war or suffering. But rather, its men's own interpretation, its limitation of own understanding and mis-understanding that have caused the war.

We humans had being a war with each each, and ourselves for countless generations. If its not for the Muslims, it would have being someone or something else.

The solutions to war is never about complete or utter destruction, nor about isolation. The path to peace is only through mutual respect and understanding.

Do you think some other group would be reintroducing institutionalised sex slavery to the middle east if it were not for Islam?

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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #69 - Jan 20^th, 2018 at 6:41pm

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

The solutions to war is never about complete or utter destruction, nor about isolation. The path to peace is only through mutual respect and understanding.

Good luck with that. The very essence of human nature of not one of automatic mutual respect and understanding.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46595 Gender:	Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat Reply #70 - Jan 20^th, 2018 at 11:33pm Like I've always said. Sacrifice FRANCE The 'Empire' of Islam fades away. Is replaced by the 'Empire' of Israel. Then, the Italians 'genocide' the 'unarmed' Moslems who are rescued by the Israeli 'Empire'. ...oh, its just a stupid game
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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #71 - Jan 21^st, 2018 at 12:47am

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 20^th, 2018 at 6:41pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

The solutions to war is never about complete or utter destruction, nor about isolation. The path to peace is only through mutual respect and understanding.

Good luck with that. The very essence of human nature of not one of automatic mutual respect and understanding.

I guess Hitler just wasn't given enough respect or understanding, poor guy. Cry

If Charles Martel had just respected and had a bit of understanding towards Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi and had tea and bikkies with him, Abdul would have turned around and headed south and the battle of Tours would never have happened.

If Vercingetorix and Caesar had just shared a beer and a chat two thirds of the Gauls would not have been killed or enslaved.

edit: The solution to war is the annihilation of your enemy.

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Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat
Reply #72 - Jan 21^st, 2018 at 8:03am

Cu Chulainn wrote on Jan 21^st, 2018 at 12:47am:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 20^th, 2018 at 6:41pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

The solutions to war is never about complete or utter destruction, nor about isolation. The path to peace is only through mutual respect and understanding.

Good luck with that. The very essence of human nature of not one of automatic mutual respect and understanding.

I guess Hitler just wasn't given enough respect or understanding, poor guy. Cry

If Charles Martel had just respected and had a bit of understanding towards Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi and had tea and bikkies with him, Abdul would have turned around and headed south and the battle of Tours would never have happened.

If Vercingetorix and Caesar had just shared a beer and a chat two thirds of the Gauls would not have been killed or enslaved.

edit: The solution to war is the annihilation of your enemy.

Muhammad was not afraid to engage in a bit of genocide as a way of resolving disagreements and bringing about peace.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat Reply #73 - Jan 21^st, 2018 at 8:26am The only practical way to deal with the threat is quarantine.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: How to defeat the Islamic threat Reply #74 - Jan 21^st, 2018 at 10:51am issuevoter wrote on Jan 21^st, 2018 at 8:26am: The only practical way to deal with the threat is quarantine. Funny you should say that. The new Austrian govt is talking "concentrating" the refugees (?) in camps.
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