Mattyfisk
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Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 6 th, 2018 at 11:46pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 6 th, 2018 at 10:21pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 6 th, 2018 at 1:10pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 5 th, 2018 at 3:30pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 5 th, 2018 at 2:32pm: They're loyal to their cities, their language, their food and their culture, but hardly their nation or political system. Much like multiculturalism in Australia, hey Karns Australia owes a huge amount to Italian immigrants. They started our coffee culture, which has now been exported to New York. Australian coffee roasters are now big business. Italians revolutionised out eating habits. Back in the 80s, supermarkets sold three brands of cheese, Kraft, Koon and Bega. Not anymore. Chicken Parmiagana is now listed as an Australian dish on tourist sites. Pizza is everywhere. Pizza, by the way, was given to Italy by the Arabs, who are now the main pizza cooks where I live. Without a doubt, Italians have made Australia a better place, just as the Arabs gave their bit to Italy, and on and on it goes. Monocultures rarely exist, and free trade and immigration benefits everyone. It certainly transformed Australia from a sleepy, stodgy colonial outpost to a vibrant, interesting culture. Our culture is multicultural, just as the Romans and Venetians and Florentines changed Europe - for good. I agree with this, Karnal. Yes but she said Italians are "hardly loyal to their nation or political system" ... just cities, language, food and culture Can we take that to mean that Italians here are not loyal to Australia and it's political system? The Italian political system is a mess, dear. Australia's is, to a large degree, trusted. People aren't turning on the major parties because of the system. In Italy, there's a sense national politics themselves are futile. Australians, on the other hand, gravitate to their federal system. In Italy, Europe has, to some degree, saved Italy from itself.
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