Auggie
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14 th, 2018 at 9:46pm: Yet you are increasingly acting like that is what you believe, Augie. I am acting in no such manner, Brian Ross. Just because I disagree with you what you believe, doesn't mean that I'm an Islamophobe. A moderate Muslim is one that is law abiding, has no interest in Terrorism and is well assimilated to the broader Australian community. I am surprised you need that, anybody else automatically understands what the term "moderate Muslim" means. You wonder why I worry about what I perceive is increasingly your Islamophobic views? Why question what a "moderate" is? The overwhelming majority of Muslims or any cultural group are "moderate" in their tone and their speech, Augie. So, you understand that this a low standard? 'Has no interest in terrorism?' Most people on earth have no interest in terrorism. What matters are their core beliefs about women, gays, minorities etc. A Muslim may no interest in terrorism but believe that gays should be thrown in jail. Are they moderate?
Again, nothing to do with the majority, BR. Only a significant minority need hold pernicious beliefs to cause problems. If that's 20% then that's a huge problem. Don't you agree? Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14 th, 2018 at 9:46pm: Ah, you're buying into the Islamophobe meme that the Japanese place special controls on Muslims in their society. As Snopes points out, that is bullshit. The Japanese don't place any controls on Muslims in their society. As to numbers, Wikipedia suggests your claim of "on one finger" is also an Islamophobic lie, Augie. There are between 30,000 and 100,000 Muslims in Japan. Nope. I'm not suggesting anything of the sort - that Japanese place special controls on Muslims. But they do have strict migration policies, particularly regarding immigrants and Asylum seekers. In fact, in 2016, Japan only took in 125 asylum seekers (including humanitarian visas).
The article you quoted stated that there were probably about 70,000 Muslims in Japan, 10% of whom had citizenship. So, let's work with 70,000 anyway. What percentage of the total Japanese population is that? My calculator couldn't even return a legible number (for some with low mathematical literacy like me), so I did 70,000/ 12,700,00 (10%) *100 of the Japanese population, and the figure was 0.55%. So, of the whole 127,000,000 population of Japan, that would be 0.55%*10, which is 0.055% of the total population.
Which exactly proves my point that it comes down to numbers.... Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14 th, 2018 at 9:46pm: No, the more Muslims and fewer Imams who are professionally trained, the greater likelihood that young Muslims will become radicalised, Augie. What we need are more professionally trained Imams, teaching the young the correct, moderate version of Islam, not the radical version that the radicals adhere to. But there are 'professionally-trained' Imans who hold pernicious beliefs. They believe in slaughtering infidels, and subjugating women. You may believe it's radical, but THEY believe it's moderate. How are you going to convince them? Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14 th, 2018 at 9:46pm: So, you believe we have 15% of the Australian Muslim population who are Terrorists? Really? So, according to you, we have approximately 90,000 Terrorists in our society? Really? I wonder where they are all hiding. I said 15% of the world Muslim population, not in Australia. And on what are you making that claim, Augie? Who has questioned all the Australian Muslim population to discover that 15% figure? Or are just making it up? Mmmm? There have been numerous polls conducted in Muslim-majority countries which support this claim. Most people are conservative when it comes to figures, so many of them have been rolled back. Brian Ross wrote on Jan 14 th, 2018 at 9:46pm: So, they are exercising their democratic rights to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly and are expressing ideas you find distasteful? So, it's perfectly legitimate that they express their views (which I agree they can), and receive no criticism from you about what they are propagating, but then when myself and other people criticise certain aspect of Islamic theology, then we're called Islamophobes, and bigots??? Yet you don't believe they should be persecuted. So, then, why are you engaging in low-level persecution of Muslims, Augie? Why, indeed? There is no persecution going on. I'm not advocating the deportation of Muslims, nor do I oppose the construction of Mosques. I'm simply questioning if a person (any person of any culture, creed or race) shares our broad values. Now, I don't always do it because I want to be courteous to the average person, but if I've having a debate with someone then I would question their personal beliefs and values (whether they be Chinese or Muslim).
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