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Reply #75 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:19am
 
Geez, how many times do you Chicken Littles need to be told facts before you stop panicking?

Grendel wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 9:53am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
Don't fwet Kiddies...  the Earth has had no glaciers before and was a snowball before...  all had nothing to do with man
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Reply #76 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 11:28am
 
Keep posting those photos of retreating glaciers please Barnacle!
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Reply #77 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 1:45pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:19am:
Geez, how many times do you Chicken Littles need to be told facts before you stop panicking?

Grendel wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Jan 10th, 2018 at 9:53am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 9th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
Don't fwet Kiddies...  the Earth has had no glaciers before and was a snowball before...  all had nothing to do with man
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Reply #78 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:15pm
 
Alaska’s Hubbard Glacier.

Growing.

A lot.


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85900
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Reply #79 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:27pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:15pm:
Alaska’s Hubbard Glacier.

Growing.

A lot.


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85900


That was 16 years ago.  Got anything recent?
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Reply #80 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:15pm:
Alaska’s Hubbard Glacier.

Growing.

A lot.


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85900


That was 16 years ago.  Got anything recent?


check the date of the report
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Reply #81 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:27pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 11:03am:
What about those pesky Himalayan glaciers that are advancing?

Shouldn't they be retreating too under GLOBAL warming?


Nom de Plume wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
You are just a baiting troll looking for meaningless disputes. Grow a brain. Roll Eyes


I know, I worked that out a long time ago

Another Himalyan glacier this time in Nepal
This one has left nothing but an empty valley where a glacier once stood

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Reply #82 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
There could be a shooting war, even a nuclear war, between India and China over the last remaining glaciers and their meltwater.
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Reply #83 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
There could be a shooting war, even a nuclear war, between India and China over the last remaining glaciers and their meltwater.


yes dear. have a Bex and a good lie down. China could stop building islands in the Spratley group.

I could win lotto.

You worked out a long time ago I don't suffer fools gladly? You don't seem to accept it. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #84 - Jan 18th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
This one speaks for itself

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Reply #85 - Jan 18th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 18th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
This one speaks for itself



What does it say? Does it speak English?

"General retreat began after CE 1860 and was interrupted by
readvances around 1890, 1920 and 1980."

http://www.whoi.edu/cms/files/solomina16qsr_238964.pdf

But it started retreating after the LIA.

"Large valley glaciers in the European Alps are more-or-less continuously retreating since the end of the Little Ice Age around 1850 AD."

https://geographie.uni-graz.at/en/research/research-groups/physical-geography-ii...
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Reply #86 - Jan 18th, 2018 at 9:35pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
lee wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 11:03am:
What about those pesky Himalayan glaciers that are advancing?

Shouldn't they be retreating too under GLOBAL warming?


Nom de Plume wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
You are just a baiting troll looking for meaningless disputes. Grow a brain. Roll Eyes


I know, I worked that out a long time ago

Another Himalyan glacier this time in Nepal
This one has left nothing but an empty valley where a glacier once stood

http://i65.tinypic.com/fu2v0k.jpg


THIS ONE...

wtf is it called barney?

and I what month did each picture get taken?

you are a fraud... Angry
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Reply #87 - Jan 18th, 2018 at 10:40pm
 
Barney wants us to go back to the LIA so the glaciers advance again. Quite how he will keep warm without fossil fuels is problematic.
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Reply #88 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 10:48am
 
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IPCC officials admit mistake over melting Himalayan glaciers

Senior members of the UN's climate science body admit a claim that Himalayan glaciers could melt away by 2035 was unfounded


Killer Mountain in the Himalayas
The UN's climate science body has admitted that a claim made in its 2007 report - that Himalayan glaciers could melt away by 2035 - was unfounded.


The admission today followed a New Scientist article last week that revealed the source of the claim made in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was not peer-reviewed scientific literature – but a media interview with a scientist conducted in 1999. Several senior scientists have now said the claim was unrealistic and that the large Himalayan glaciers could not melt in a few decades.

In a statement (pdf), the IPCC said the paragraph "refers to poorly substantiated estimates of rate of recession and date for the disappearance of Himalayan glaciers. In drafting the paragraph in question, the clear and well-established standards of evidence, required by the IPCC procedures, were not applied properly."

It added: "The IPCC regrets the poor application of well-established IPCC procedures in this instance." But the statement calls for no action beyond stating a need for absolute adherence to IPCC quality control processes. "We reaffirm our strong commitment to ensuring this level of performance," the statement said.

The IPCC says the broader conclusion of the report is unaffected: that glaciers have melted significantly, that this will accelerate and affect the supply of water from major mountain ranges "where more than one-sixth of the world population currently lives".

Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, vice-chair of the IPCC, added that the mistake did nothing to undermine the large body of evidence that showed the climate was warming and that human activity was largely to blame. He told BBC News: "I don't see how one mistake in a 3,000-page report can damage the credibility of the overall report. "

The Indian environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, said earlier in the week: "The [glaciers] are indeed receding and the rate is cause for great concern … [but the claim is] not based on an iota of scientific evidence."

The Indian government criticised the IPCC's glaciers claim in November at the launch of its own discussion paper, written by geologist Vijay Kumar Raina, which admitted that while some glaciers in the Himalayas were retreating, it was "nothing out of the ordinary. Nothing to suggest as some have said that they will disappear."

At the time, the chairman of the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri, dismissed the report as not peer-reviewed and said: "With the greatest of respect this guy retired years ago and I find it totally baffling that he comes out and throws out everything that has been established years ago."

Georg Kaser, an expert in tropical glaciology at the University of Innsbruck in Austria and a lead author for the IPCC, said he had warned that the 2035 prediction was clearly wrong in 2006, months before the report was published. "This [date] is not just a little bit wrong, but far out of any order of magnitude," he said.

"All the responsible people are aware of this weakness in the fourth assessment. All are aware of the mistakes made," he said. "If it had not been the focus of so much public opinion, we would have said 'we will do better next time'. It is clear now that working group II has to be restructured."

The reports of the IPCC collate the work of thousands of scientists and are assessed through a process of peer-review and then approved by the 192 governments who are members of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. Its work is seen as the most comprehensive account of global warming.

The chair of the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri, has made no personal comment on the glacier claim: But yesterday, at an energy conference in Abu Dhabi, he responded to British newspaper articles criticising his chairmanship of the IPCC. "They can't attack the science so they attack the chairman. But they won't sink me. I am the unsinkable Molly Brown. In fact, I will float much higher," he told the Guardian.

The row centres on the IPCC's "fourth assessment" report in 2007, which said "glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate." The claim appears in the full report, but not in the more widely read "Summary for policymakers".

The claim was attributed to a report by the campaign group WWF, but in the New Scientist article, Guardian writer Fred Pearce noted that WWF had cited a 1999 interview in the magazine with Indian glaciologist Syed Hasnain as the source of the claim. Hasnain told the magazine last week that "it is not proper for IPCC to include references from popular magazines or newspapers".

Additional reporting: Ian Wylie
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Reply #89 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 10:50am
 
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Himalayan glaciers are growing, not shrinking

Things are not as they seemed to be in the IPCC report.

Not only are the Himalayan glaciers not shrinking, they’re growing.
Discovery reports:

Perched on the soaring Karakoram mountains in the Western Himalayas, a group of some 230 glaciers are bucking the global warming trend.

They’re growing.


Throughout much of the Tibetan Plateau, high-altitude glaciers are dwindling in the face of rising temperatures.

The situation is potentially dire for the hundreds of millions of people living in China, India and throughout southeast Asia who depend on the glaciers for their water supply.

But in the rugged western corner of the plateau, the story is different, according to a new study. Among legendary peaks of Mt. Everest like K2 and Nanga Parbat, glaciers with a penthouse view of the world are growing, and have been for almost three decades.

“These are the biggest mid-latitude glaciers in the world,” John Shroder of the University of Nebraska-Omaha said. “And all of them are either holding still, or advancing.”


so you see...

countries depend on these Glaciers to melt to get their fresh water supply... if they don't, those countries are in trouble...

if the world goes into a cooling period which looks likely... there are going to be millions of people I trouble... Deaths are inevitable...
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