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Re: They don't make westerns anymore
Reply #15 - Dec 27^th, 2017 at 7:34am

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:59am:

But here's a new one called "Hostiles" which has got pretty much a rave review in The American Spectator for the acting, cinematography and soundtrack.
It sounds like it might be in the epic tradition of The Searchers or the Kevin Costner movies.
Just released in the US now.

looks good.

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Re: They don't make westerns anymore
Reply #16 - Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 5:24pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 9:36pm:

The reason why they don't make Westerns the way they used to, let alone 'anymore' is because they are

POLITICALLY INCORRECT

and a reflection of something similar to the non-Jewish (City living) 'southern Confederate' redneck racist, etc.
Note that many 'sitcom' comedies like Friends, Seinfeld, etc - are all placed in 'City' environments of 'apartments'.
The Jewish 'Holy City' (Jerusalem) approach.

Western's are no longer 'American'.
Can't have 'Native' Americans being killed in movies that don't have token black men included.

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Marta Kaufman, creator of Friends is "embarrassed" that Friends’ six lead characters were white. She literally uses the g-word to describe how she feels about all this awful whiteness. ‘Admitting and accepting guilt is not easy’, she told the Los Angeles Times. ‘It’s painful looking at yourself in the mirror’, she said. What is this madness? Let’s remind ourselves that the reason Ms Kauffman feels shame – so much shame she can barely look in a mirror – is not because she murdered someone or MeToo’ed a male cast member. It’s because she gave the roles of Joey, Chandler, Ross, Monica, Rachel and Phoebe to white people. ‘What can I say? I wish Lisa [Kudrow] was black?’, said another Friends producer recently. This might just be the maddest talking point of 2022 so far.

Kauffman has publicly flogged herself quite a few times over the whiteness of Friends. At a TV festival in 2020 she said that ‘all I can think about’ is why we didn’t do more to make Friends diverse. Last year, ahead of Friends: The Reunion being aired on HBO Max, she said she had ‘very strong feelings about my participation in a system’. That will be the system of white privilege and unconscious bias, no doubt. Now she has gone the whole hog and flung herself, coated in shame, at the altar of white guilt. ‘I was part of systemic racism. I take full responsibility for that… I was so ignorant.’ Reminder, dear reader: she made a sitcom.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/30/the-one-with-the-nauseating-white-guilt/

It the latest preening for posers, white guilt.

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Re: They don't make westerns anymore
Reply #17 - Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 5:35pm

Grendel wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 7:59am:

Trying to think of Movie westerns that are recent...

The Lone Ranger... wasn't bad.
Dances with Wolves... loved it.

Open Range... loved it

Silverado... loved it

Pale Rider... loved it

The Magnificent 7... good

The Revenant... Good

The Last of the Mohicans... loved it.

A Million ways to die in the West... ???

The Wild Wild West... hated it (well the casting of Wil Smith)

Tombstone... good.

Unforgiven... good.

True Grit... Good (the new one)

3:10 to Yuma... ok

Wyatt Earp... good

Django Unchained... ok

The Assassination of Jesse James... ok

The Quick and the Dead... ok

The Hateful 8... ???

The Missing... good.

The Proposition... ok

Quigley... good.

Cowboys and Aliens... ok

Shanghai Noon... meh.

Maverick... ok

Will penny... good

I love westerns.

Think the western setting for movies is about all played out.
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Re: They don't make westerns anymore
Reply #18 - Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 6:33pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 5:35pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 7:59am:

I love westerns.

Think the western setting for movies is about all played out.
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I used to like western, but now I see that they are what went wrong with America. Gunz fix everything.

Even my favourite western, Unforgiven, has a shootout scene at the end, it all looks different to me now.

That mindset really repels me. Can't watch them.

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Re: They don't make westerns anymore
Reply #21 - Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 8:42pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Being a student of 19th century history, I find Western movies are never "good" interpretations of the times. Individual movies have their occasional scenes, but the quality never runs right through. So we are left with a genre that is a pastiche of cliched vignettes and over-acting...

I take your point, but I think too that we need to judge these Western movies (or "films" as
we called them downunder) as the fiction they usually are. They're not intended to be any
sort of accurate historical rendering—they're meant solely to entertain audiences and make
money at the box office.

How about... 'Red River', 'High Noon', 'The Searchers', 'Ride Lonesome', 'Once Upon a Time in the West',
and 'Shane' as a few more contenders for good Westerns.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40655 Gender:	Re: They don't make westerns anymore Reply #23 - Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 10:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 9:01pm: Just released, on Prime. *Old Henry* I just watched it - fantastic! Watch it - you won't be disappointed. A familiar face.
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Re: They don't make westerns anymore
Reply #24 - Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 11:12pm

random wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 6:33pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2022 at 5:35pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 7:59am:

I love westerns.

Think the western setting for movies is about all played out.
Wink

I used to like western, but now I see that they are what went wrong with America. Gunz fix everything.

Even my favourite western, Unforgiven, has a shootout scene at the end, it all looks different to me now.

That mindset really repels me. Can't watch them.

I hear you.

Same as rambo movies, or dirty harry

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