So you say.

But is it true?

Give some concrete details, your leftwing conspiracy theory is just that, pure ----- welll bullshit.

your site tells us in part

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So a minority (1/3) subset of evangelicals absolutely dominated the presidents decision?

Like I said leftwing nutjob conspiracy theory.   

this site of yours they are all against it

Auggie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2018 at 11:39pm:


No.

But we're dealing with different issues. If the Quran is so bad but the Torah is much worse, why aren't Jews a global threat?

That's the question Moses, FD and all those who state that the Quran is the cause of Islamic violence can never answer.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews believe they are occupying other people's land because of a promise made by G_d. They are quite prepared to put their lives on the line to defend that land, and many believe they have a right to kill Palestinians. They interpret the Torah just as it states: they have the right to invade cities and slay entire populations if they aren't Jews. They are held back by the Israeli Army, who do their work for them: defending illegally held territory and slowly turning it into suburbs.

They're backed by the US, who have now signalled to the world that they're prepared to support Israel's illegal occupation of Jerusalem. This isn't the Jewish lobby, who are rightfully scared of pissing off the Arabs. This is the Christian lobby, many of whom believe that the state of Israel is part of a divine plan for Armageddon. They look forward to a holy war and, through their actions, actually bring it on. They cheered Bush's "crusade" (which brought ISIS into existence), and they'll cheer anything Trump does to raise the ire of the Muslim world.

Remember, militant Islam is sold to Muslims as defensive. Al Qaida's objectives were to get the US military out of Saudi Arabia and Israel out of the West Bank and Gaza. Fair enough. They might not use the same methods, but al Qaida have at least one objective consistent with the UN.

Muslims everywhere, however, condemn the Islamicists' methods, stating in unequivocal terms that they're not consistent with Islam or Islamic scripture. Who do you want to believe? The majority mainstream or the uneducated zealots?

Moses, the old boy and I play a circular game. They claim Islamic terrorism is caused by Islamic scripture. When I show that Jewish scripture is far worse and Jews aren't violent people, they come back to the question you've asked - over and over again.

I can't say why Jews don't stone or behead people for adultery anymore. Nor can I say why Saudis do. Stoning and beheading isn't even in the Quran, but it's there in black and white in the Torah.

I don't buy the FD argument that Saudi atrocities are influenced by generations of inbreeding. Nor do I think it's caused by their scripture. Indonesians aren't stoning or beheading anyone, and they seem just as religious as the Saudis.

I can't answer Moses and the old boy's question about why militant Islamists are so cruel and suicidal - particularly when I've met so many nice Muslims. I've never met an ISIS fanatic, but I've met plenty of generous, hospitable and compassionate Muslims in a variety of countries. When they tell me this is what Islam is about - submission to God means kindness, patience and peace, I believe them. I have no reason to disbelieve that this is what their faith is about. They appear to me to practice this in action, so I believe.

I'm not into Islam. I just can't see the link between one or two ancient verses taken out of context and violence in the name of Allah. I think Islamists are profoundly wrong in their interpretation - their actions are condemned by their own holy book.

So no, while I don't see Jews as a global threat, nor do I see any threat from Muslims who take the time to read their book properly, and practice it.

Allah Uakbar, innit.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 9:28am:


This is an example of a Muslim lying about the Quran. That is why he did not quote the verse.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 8^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:


Yes, but FD hasn't read those parts, G, just the part where it says to kill Whitey wherever you find him - that's the important bit.

Therefore, you're still lying.

Taqiyya, innit.

So moses, we have 'the highest grade of followers' who have the clarity of mind to clearly understand Allah's message and carry out that message perfectly to the letter....

but they are also all mentally-retarded inbreds?

You didn't consider that mentally retarded people would be more likely to get the message wrong than right?