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Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
When an uncle dangled her over a balcony, her grandmother said: "he'll do it (drop her) and when they do the autopsy they will see you are not a virgin so he won't be arrested or go to jail".


Girl forced to take virginity test before being married off to cousin, jury told

The woman at the centre of a 60 Minutes Sydney defamation case has broken down while describing how she was forced to take a virginity test at a Jordan hospital when she was 13.

Nadia Tabbaa testified that despite telling the doctor she had not been with a man, the test purported to find she was not a virgin, leading to her being beaten by her father and brother Omar.

When she asked her brother to repeat her denial to their father, she said he replied: "He believes you because if he didn't you'd be dead".

The 29-year-old was giving evidence on Wednesday for the Nine Network, which is being sued by her parents, Mouhammad Tabbaa and his former wife Pamela Tabbaa, over a 60 Minutes program broadcast in 2014.

In the interview, Ms Tabbaa said she was kidnapped at 13 while holidaying in Egypt, taken to live with her grandmother in Syria and forced to marry her older cousin before she escaped back to Sydney at 18.

During her evidence in the NSW Supreme Court, her father muttered loudly as Ms Tabbaa was giving details of the subjects she studied at a sharia school in Damascus.

Justice Des Fagan responded: "Hold your peace while the witness gives evidence.

"If you can't contain yourself I'll have you removed from the court."

Ms Tabbaa said while living in Sydney from age 8 to 13, her brother Omar regularly beat her with a belt, a kettle cord and thongs and was extremely abusive about the way she dressed.

He also abused her for going on sleepovers "in a house with strange men" and disapproved of her wearing swimming suits or leotards.

Everything to him was sexualised," she said.

"Everything was very focused on chastity."

Ms Tabbaa said during her holiday in Egypt, she was told she would be taken to Jordan to see her father who had been living abroad and who she had not seen for a long time.

She was excited at seeing him because "as a little girl I did love my father".

But soon after her arrival, her father and Omar took her to a secluded paddock and interrogated her about her Sydney behaviour, asking about drugs, sleeping with men, running away from home and smoking.

They later told her "we have been planning this for months".

"They wanted me to be embarrassed as I had fallen for their trick" but she said she responded by saying she didn't care.

"My father spat on me," she said.

She had to live with her grandmother who "just hated me" and made her do all the household chores.

The grandmother regularly abused her saying: "You are lazy, you are spoiled, you are a donkey".

When an uncle dangled her over a balcony, her grandmother said: "he'll do it (drop her) and when they do the autopsy they will see you are not a virgin so he won't be arrested or go to jail".

The hearing is continuing.


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/girl-forced-to-take-virginity-test-before-being-marrie...
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Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm
 
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this, it's their culture and why is your culture better than theirs? Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...
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Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!
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Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:45pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!


Of course you do! All religions, cultures and ideologies are equal. Just own up, do it in the open and all will be forgiven.

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Reply #4 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:48pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:45pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!


Of course you do! All religions, cultures and ideologies are equal. Just own up, do it in the open and all will be forgiven.



Wrong!

They are different. And that is the ONLY THING that makes them the same.

I ought to know.....given my diverse religious and cultural background.....sigh.
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Reply #5 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:51pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:45pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!


Of course you do! All religions, cultures and ideologies are equal. Just own up, do it in the open and all will be forgiven.



Wrong!

They are different. And that is the ONLY THING that makes them the same.

I ought to know.....given my diverse religious and cultural background.....sigh.


Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Undecided
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Reply #6 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:01am
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:45pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!


Of course you do! All religions, cultures and ideologies are equal. Just own up, do it in the open and all will be forgiven.



Wrong!

They are different. And that is the ONLY THING that makes them the same.

I ought to know.....given my diverse religious and cultural background.....sigh.


Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Undecided


Unfortunately I do this .... when I know I'm right.

I am in a very fortunate position where as a full blooded Mediterranean girl I KNOW first hand how Mediterranean cultures function.

And as an Aussie born n bred girl I know a lot about the Anglo Saxon Celtic cultural heritage mindset. I even married into that heritage.

And then there is the question of religion.

Having been born n bred Orthodox/Catholic and now living as a Protestant Christian....I can compare and contrast  the differences in these too.

So yes.....I do protest.  And as a Protestant...I should  Grin
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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Reply #7 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:10am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:01am:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:45pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!


Of course you do! All religions, cultures and ideologies are equal. Just own up, do it in the open and all will be forgiven.



Wrong!

They are different. And that is the ONLY THING that makes them the same.

I ought to know.....given my diverse religious and cultural background.....sigh.


Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Undecided


Unfortunately I do this .... when I know I'm right.

I am in a very fortunate position where as a full blooded Mediterranean girl I KNOW first hand how Mediterranean cultures function.

And as an Aussie born n bred girl I know a lot about the Anglo Saxon Celtic cultural heritage mindset. I even married into that heritage.

And then there is the question of religion.

Having been born n bred Orthodox/Catholic and now living as a Protestant Christian....I can compare and contrast  the differences in these too.

So yes.....I do protest.  And as a Protestant...I should  Grin


Yes, we know dear, your ancestors were taken from the middle east as slaves to ret flax for the real Greeks in the streams that ran into the Eurotas, that's why you make such a good house slave to this day.
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Reply #8 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:14am
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:01am:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:45pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this. Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


We Christians certainly don't!


Of course you do! All religions, cultures and ideologies are equal. Just own up, do it in the open and all will be forgiven.



Wrong!

They are different. And that is the ONLY THING that makes them the same.

I ought to know.....given my diverse religious and cultural background.....sigh.


Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Undecided


Unfortunately I do this .... when I know I'm right.

I am in a very fortunate position where as a full blooded Mediterranean girl I KNOW first hand how Mediterranean cultures function.

And as an Aussie born n bred girl I know a lot about the Anglo Saxon Celtic cultural heritage mindset. I even married into that heritage.

And then there is the question of religion.

Having been born n bred Orthodox/Catholic and now living as a Protestant Christian....I can compare and contrast  the differences in these too.

So yes.....I do protest.  And as a Protestant...I should  Grin


1. Yes, we know dear, your ancestors were taken from the middle east as slaves to ret flax for the real Greeks in the streams that ran into the Eurotas.

2. that's why you make such a good house slave to this day.



1. The Euphrates????

2. I resemble that.  Roll Eyes



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Reply #9 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:17am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:14am:
1. The Euphrates????



Eurotas, the river that runs through Mykēnai/Sparta.
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Reply #10 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:44am
 
Of course she was not virgin because her cousin sexually abused her when she was 9 yo (In accordance with Mohamed's Aisha case)
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Reply #11 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:53pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this, it's their culture and why is your culture better than theirs? Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


Why is our culture better then theirs? As as western culture goes, I am unaware of any instances where:

- a girl was kidnapped with the intention that she would be forced to marry her cousin at the age of 13
- her uncle dangled her over a balcony while her grandmother threatened that he'd drop her just to prove she's a virgin
- the girl was eventually forced to take a virginity test

So if can't see how those examples are indicative of a culture worse than that of the west you really have a warped view of the world.
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Reply #12 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:25pm
 
minarchist wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:38pm:
The most feminist religion is not to blame for this, it's their culture and why is your culture better than theirs? Followers of other ME desert gods do this all the time...


Why is our culture better then theirs? As as western culture goes, I am unaware of any instances where:

- a girl was kidnapped with the intention that she would be forced to marry her cousin at the age of 13
- her uncle dangled her over a balcony while her grandmother threatened that he'd drop her just to prove she's a virgin
- the girl was eventually forced to take a virginity test

So if can't see how those examples are indicative of a culture worse than that of the west you really have a warped view of the world.


I guess you don't do sarcasm.
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Reply #13 - Dec 11th, 2017 at 9:53am
 
My apologies Setanta, my ultra leftist thought detector was set too sensitive.
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