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Re: Milo and promoters billed for police protection
Reply #60 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:58am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 12:38pm:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/protesters-rally-at-milo-yiannopoulos-sydney-event-201...


Getting back to the violent Left protesters......

An interesting read.

Hmmm.....these lefties were arrested. Good!




https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-protesters-gather-ahead-of-mil...

These vids show just how violent THE LEFT REALLY ARE!


More VISUAL Evidence of Left wing VIOLENCE.


LOTS OF IT.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/milo-yiannopoulos-in-sydney-controv...




Jesus, that's bad!



Yep...and here's why!

About 30-50 right-wing activists from groups including Reclaim Australia and the True Blue Crew and up to 500 left-wing protesters representing the likes of Campaign Against Racism and Fascism took part in the clash.

It was great seeing those violent Lefties arrested.


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Re: Milo and promoters billed for police protection
Reply #61 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:49pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:35am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 10:25pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
The OP makes it sound like Milo cannot be forced to pay the bill, and I do not think he should. We need harsher penalties for people using violence to achieve censorship.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:21am:
I agree....If you hold an event that needs police protection then you should be charged for that protection or take measures to ensure public safety for all concerned....Protesting is not illegal in Australia!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Are you in favour of allowing groups like antifa to silence these speakers by making it too expensive for them and their supporters to gather anywhere? Is that really the sort of society you want?


I would be happy if the police arrested the trouble makers (both sides) and charged them with an offence so Milo or anyone else can sue them for the cost of security....If you don't need security you don't have to pay for it!!!

Huh Huh Huh


Why should Milo have to chase them up? Most of the antifa mob are dole bludgers anyway.

Are you saying you are in favour of antifa being able to shut people like Milo down by making it too expensive for them to express their opinion, so long as there is a theoretical possibility of them recovering some of the money?

Or have you simply not thought it through?


I will put it this way....

Milo thinks he is a rock star....If you have Rock concert you must provide security....Milo's concert needed 350 police in riot gear to keep him alive....If Milo and other celebrities who are in a similar position sue these organisations and individuals for the cost of the security then some of these dickheads would think twice about causing trouble....Otherwise you pay the price regardless???

Huh Huh Huh


When was the last time a rock concert needed hundreds of police to protect from people trying to stop the concert?

How are you making a different point? Milo paid for the security inside the premises. He should not have to pay for the police to round up violent antifa morons out on the street.

How is this any different from you promoting the idea that people should be able to use violence and threats of violence to shut down a speaking engagement, by holding the speaker financially accountable for the moronic actions of the opposition crowd out on the street? Are you just going to find another way to say the same stupid thing?

Is this what you actually support Phil? Using violence to shut down free speech? Or are you more the "reject reality and replace it with my own" type?


Promoters have to factor in the cost of security before bringing in dickheads who incite the public....WTF should my taxpayer dollars pay for any cretin to spew crap from any political persuasion....Good on the Victorian police for letting these promoters know there is a price for intollerance!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Your tax dollars are being spent on protecting people and property outside the venue from the moronic antifa mob.

Are you having trouble giving a straight answer because you know you are on the wrong side of this one Phil? Let's try again. Do you support the use of violence and threats of violence to shut down free speech, by making it too expensive to express controversial opinions?

Do you support holding Milo financially accountable for the moronic actions of the imbeciles trying to prevent his talks from going ahead?
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Re: Milo and promoters billed for police protection
Reply #62 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:35am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 10:25pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
The OP makes it sound like Milo cannot be forced to pay the bill, and I do not think he should. We need harsher penalties for people using violence to achieve censorship.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:21am:
I agree....If you hold an event that needs police protection then you should be charged for that protection or take measures to ensure public safety for all concerned....Protesting is not illegal in Australia!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Are you in favour of allowing groups like antifa to silence these speakers by making it too expensive for them and their supporters to gather anywhere? Is that really the sort of society you want?


I would be happy if the police arrested the trouble makers (both sides) and charged them with an offence so Milo or anyone else can sue them for the cost of security....If you don't need security you don't have to pay for it!!!

Huh Huh Huh


Why should Milo have to chase them up? Most of the antifa mob are dole bludgers anyway.

Are you saying you are in favour of antifa being able to shut people like Milo down by making it too expensive for them to express their opinion, so long as there is a theoretical possibility of them recovering some of the money?

Or have you simply not thought it through?


I will put it this way....

Milo thinks he is a rock star....If you have Rock concert you must provide security....Milo's concert needed 350 police in riot gear to keep him alive....If Milo and other celebrities who are in a similar position sue these organisations and individuals for the cost of the security then some of these dickheads would think twice about causing trouble....Otherwise you pay the price regardless???

Huh Huh Huh


When was the last time a rock concert needed hundreds of police to protect from people trying to stop the concert?

How are you making a different point? Milo paid for the security inside the premises. He should not have to pay for the police to round up violent antifa morons out on the street.

How is this any different from you promoting the idea that people should be able to use violence and threats of violence to shut down a speaking engagement, by holding the speaker financially accountable for the moronic actions of the opposition crowd out on the street? Are you just going to find another way to say the same stupid thing?

Is this what you actually support Phil? Using violence to shut down free speech? Or are you more the "reject reality and replace it with my own" type?


Promoters have to factor in the cost of security before bringing in dickheads who incite the public....WTF should my taxpayer dollars pay for any cretin to spew crap from any political persuasion....Good on the Victorian police for letting these promoters know there is a price for intollerance!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Your tax dollars are being spent on protecting people and property outside the venue from the moronic antifa mob.

Are you having trouble giving a straight answer because you know you are on the wrong side of this one Phil? Let's try again.


No worries. Are you in favour of having the Victorian police take over the work of the Brown Shirts?

If you're having any trouble answering, please let me know.
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Re: Milo and promoters billed for police protection
Reply #63 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:35am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 10:25pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
The OP makes it sound like Milo cannot be forced to pay the bill, and I do not think he should. We need harsher penalties for people using violence to achieve censorship.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:21am:
I agree....If you hold an event that needs police protection then you should be charged for that protection or take measures to ensure public safety for all concerned....Protesting is not illegal in Australia!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Are you in favour of allowing groups like antifa to silence these speakers by making it too expensive for them and their supporters to gather anywhere? Is that really the sort of society you want?


I would be happy if the police arrested the trouble makers (both sides) and charged them with an offence so Milo or anyone else can sue them for the cost of security....If you don't need security you don't have to pay for it!!!

Huh Huh Huh


Why should Milo have to chase them up? Most of the antifa mob are dole bludgers anyway.

Are you saying you are in favour of antifa being able to shut people like Milo down by making it too expensive for them to express their opinion, so long as there is a theoretical possibility of them recovering some of the money?

Or have you simply not thought it through?


I will put it this way....

Milo thinks he is a rock star....If you have Rock concert you must provide security....Milo's concert needed 350 police in riot gear to keep him alive....If Milo and other celebrities who are in a similar position sue these organisations and individuals for the cost of the security then some of these dickheads would think twice about causing trouble....Otherwise you pay the price regardless???

Huh Huh Huh


When was the last time a rock concert needed hundreds of police to protect from people trying to stop the concert?

How are you making a different point? Milo paid for the security inside the premises. He should not have to pay for the police to round up violent antifa morons out on the street.

How is this any different from you promoting the idea that people should be able to use violence and threats of violence to shut down a speaking engagement, by holding the speaker financially accountable for the moronic actions of the opposition crowd out on the street? Are you just going to find another way to say the same stupid thing?

Is this what you actually support Phil? Using violence to shut down free speech? Or are you more the "reject reality and replace it with my own" type?


Promoters have to factor in the cost of security before bringing in dickheads who incite the public....WTF should my taxpayer dollars pay for any cretin to spew crap from any political persuasion....Good on the Victorian police for letting these promoters know there is a price for intollerance!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Your tax dollars are being spent on protecting people and property outside the venue from the moronic antifa mob.

Are you having trouble giving a straight answer because you know you are on the wrong side of this one Phil? Let's try again. Do you support the use of violence and threats of violence to shut down hate speech, by making it too expensive to express controversial opinions?

Do you support holding Milo financially accountable for the moronic actions of the imbeciles trying to prevent his talks from going ahead?


I have made my point....When promoters schedule these events the cost of police protection should be factored in....Right, left, black or white I do not care....Why should taxpayers pay for any dickheads to spew their hatred....Otherwise let both sides go at it and pick up the bodies when it's all done and dusted....The very reason for Milo coming here was to stir up sh!t....Let him pay for it IMO!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #64 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 3:44pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 12:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:35am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 10:25pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
The OP makes it sound like Milo cannot be forced to pay the bill, and I do not think he should. We need harsher penalties for people using violence to achieve censorship.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:21am:
I agree....If you hold an event that needs police protection then you should be charged for that protection or take measures to ensure public safety for all concerned....Protesting is not illegal in Australia!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Are you in favour of allowing groups like antifa to silence these speakers by making it too expensive for them and their supporters to gather anywhere? Is that really the sort of society you want?


I would be happy if the police arrested the trouble makers (both sides) and charged them with an offence so Milo or anyone else can sue them for the cost of security....If you don't need security you don't have to pay for it!!!

Huh Huh Huh


Why should Milo have to chase them up? Most of the antifa mob are dole bludgers anyway.

Are you saying you are in favour of antifa being able to shut people like Milo down by making it too expensive for them to express their opinion, so long as there is a theoretical possibility of them recovering some of the money?

Or have you simply not thought it through?


I will put it this way....

Milo thinks he is a rock star....If you have Rock concert you must provide security....Milo's concert needed 350 police in riot gear to keep him alive....If Milo and other celebrities who are in a similar position sue these organisations and individuals for the cost of the security then some of these dickheads would think twice about causing trouble....Otherwise you pay the price regardless???

Huh Huh Huh


When was the last time a rock concert needed hundreds of police to protect from people trying to stop the concert?

How are you making a different point? Milo paid for the security inside the premises. He should not have to pay for the police to round up violent antifa morons out on the street.

How is this any different from you promoting the idea that people should be able to use violence and threats of violence to shut down a speaking engagement, by holding the speaker financially accountable for the moronic actions of the opposition crowd out on the street? Are you just going to find another way to say the same stupid thing?

Is this what you actually support Phil? Using violence to shut down free speech? Or are you more the "reject reality and replace it with my own" type?


Promoters have to factor in the cost of security before bringing in dickheads who incite the public....WTF should my taxpayer dollars pay for any cretin to spew crap from any political persuasion....Good on the Victorian police for letting these promoters know there is a price for intollerance!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Your tax dollars are being spent on protecting people and property outside the venue from the moronic antifa mob.

Are you having trouble giving a straight answer because you know you are on the wrong side of this one Phil? Let's try again. Do you support the use of violence and threats of violence to shut down hate speech, by making it too expensive to express controversial opinions?

Do you support holding Milo financially accountable for the moronic actions of the imbeciles trying to prevent his talks from going ahead?


I have made my point....




That's not the point. FD is asking you to agree. Do you support holding Milo financially accountable for the moronic actions of the imbeciles trying to prevent his talks from going ahead?

The correct answer is yes.

Now, try asking FD: FD, are you in favour of having the Victorian police take over the work of the Brown Shirts?

FD won't say. Why do you think that is?
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Reply #65 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:41pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
I have made my point....When promoters schedule these events the cost of police protection should be factored in....Right, left, black or white I do not care....Why should taxpayers pay for any dickheads to spew their hatred....Otherwise let both sides go at it and pick up the bodies when it's all done and dusted....The very reason for Milo coming here was to stir up sh!t....Let him pay for it IMO!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Why don't the fascists  - who call themselves antifascists - protest peacefully?  There would be no damage bill if they could behave in a civilised manner.


Why should the victims of violent anarchists pick up the tab for the damage done by those violent thugs and chanting lesbians?





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Reply #66 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:44pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:21am:

“The people that came to see the show lined up very peacefully, they were all quite happy and the ferals that were on the other side of the police lines were the ones throwing the bottles and they weren’t ticket holders, they weren’t invited and they certainly weren’t welcome.

“The only consequence of free speech is more free speech. Violence is not a consequence of free speech, violence is a consequence of ignorance.”


(Apologies.....can't provide you with a link as I'm on my iPhone atm)


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Reply #67 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:03pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:43pm:
Did you support us paying for the security detail for Yassmin, FD?

Oh, That's right. You won't say.

What security detail, Dishonest Pakistani Homintern Ambassador?

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Reply #68 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:43pm:
Did you support us paying for the security detail for Yassmin, FD?

Oh, That's right. You won't say.

What security detail, Dishonest Pakistani Homintern Ambassador?



The one where the death and rape threats were monitored by police, Dishonest, Danish Cheese-snorter.

Should Yassmin have deployed the Black Panthers or accepted the services of the NSW Police?

A simple question, dear boy, and one you will refuse to address.

Is that stupid, mendacious or your education at the prestigious University of Balogney?
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Reply #69 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
Go Milo.  I want my kids to hear him.







This is what intelligent disagreement and discussion looks like, feral, shouty progs


Have they read the Art of the Deal?

Compelling reading, old boy.



No, they haven't. Nor me. None of us are Ophrah Book Club member like you, Kameeeeeel.

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Reply #70 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
I think it's time Australia started charging and locking up these violent left wing nazis. They are a disgrace. They are the true violent humans.

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Reply #71 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
I have made my point....When promoters schedule these events the cost of police protection should be factored in....Right, left, black or white I do not care....Why should taxpayers pay for any dickheads to spew their hatred....Otherwise let both sides go at it and pick up the bodies when it's all done and dusted....The very reason for Milo coming here was to stir up sh!t....Let him pay for it IMO!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Why don't the fascists  - who call themselves antifascists - protest peacefully?  There would be no damage bill if they could behave in a civilised manner?


Cunning, no?

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Heavily armed police were forced to intervene when protesters from both right and left groups clashed.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-05/protesters-arrested-at-milo-yiannopolou...
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Reply #72 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
Go Milo.  I want my kids to hear him.







This is what intelligent disagreement and discussion looks like, feral, shouty progs


Have they read the Art of the Deal?

Compelling reading, old boy.



No, they haven't. Nor me. None of us are Ophrah Book Club member like you, Kameeeeeel.



You should encourage them to join. There's a fine Pakistani author, Mohsin Hamid.
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Reply #73 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:24pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:43pm:
Did you support us paying for the security detail for Yassmin, FD?

Oh, That's right. You won't say.

What security detail, Dishonest Pakistani Homintern Ambassador?



The one where the death and rape threats were monitored by police, Dishonest, Danish Cheese-snorter.

Should Yassmin have deployed the Black Panthers or accepted the services of the NSW Police?

A simple question, dear boy, and one you will refuse to address.

Is that stupid, mendacious or your education at the prestigious University of Balogney?

So no security detail, after all. You just made it all up.

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Reply #74 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I think it's time Australia started charging and locking up these violent left wing nazis. They are a disgrace. They are the true violent humans.



Yes, but I think you'll find FD wants to leave the right wing Nazis alone.

Superior culture, innit.
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