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Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible (Read 9613 times)
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #60 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:25am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:06am:
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:39am:
Lisa, your religion is also a pox on mankind. Don't defend it. This crap will never stop until you all see the truth in what you defend in your "faiths".



Religion is like politics....an abused and abusive man made construct.

You're confusing my faith in God and His Word.....with "religion".

IF you bothered to read The Bible...esp The New Testament ie from the time of Christ onwards......you will find that Jesus Christ himself abhorred religion.

Jesus had 1 word for the Jewish religious scholars and priests of His day.

That word was WOE!




I will say this though Setanta.....you're genuine in debate and discussion when it comes to this subject matter.

And I respect that. Good on you. Smiley

Pssssst.....you will find that I just ignore and post over notorious cyber junkie trolls esp those who spend 24/7 following me around in cyberspace trying to hijack my topics with their off topic spam  Grin

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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #61 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:13pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 11:58pm:
Have you ever been physically abused in a relationship Lisa Jones?


Duh!


Why didn't you just fight back?
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #62 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:15pm
 
Who gives a poo to be honest what religious document condones or doesnt.


DV occurs.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #63 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:28pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 11:58pm:
Have you ever been physically abused in a relationship Lisa Jones?


Duh!


Why didn't you just fight back?


A few reasons....

I was 65 kilos, he was 120 kilos.

He frightened me with multiple threats to myself/my family/my unborn child(ren)....and that fear immobilized me.

He was considerably older than me and was a well known lawyer with a lot of family money.

I wasn't allowed to be anything but barefoot, pregnant and without money. My weekly allowance was zero.

His idea of marital sex was full on rape. It was forced and violent leaving me bruised all over. I couldn't even keep my hair long because he would pull it off. So to stop him from hurting my head I used to cut my hair real short....kinda like a guy's hair style.

I had no say over anything. No rights.....wasn't allowed to have an opinion let alone voice it.

I had no say over pregnancy. Even that was forced. And there's still no criminal term for that in domestic violence.

I wasn't even allowed to vote. He would grab my wrist in polling booths and crush it whilst he filled in my election form.

He had a million dollar life insurance policy on me. He took that out when I got pregnant to his twins.

It was a tough 5 years......only God helped me escape. Towards the end....the final 6 months ....I tried to escape a few times but those attempts almost cost me my life.

Anyway....I finally got out with police and family help and was finally able to access heaps of counselling and support.

My 2nd marriage is THE EXACT OPPOSITE. It is awesome!

Life is good. No.....life is great.

Unfortunately the past tends to rear its ugly head here and there. I'm seriously lucky to be alive.

Most women do NOT escape/survive MIDDLE CLASS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. They usually end up murdered.

I probably should be out there helping other women but the trauma of middle class domestic violence is too close to home. Plus I have a family to take care of and they will always come first...esp now that my widowed mum has passed and I'm relied upon to exercise her matriarchal role (as the eldest  daughter in a European family).

These days I'm one TOUGH CHOOK!

YOU DON'T WANNA MESS WITH ME.

Anything else you wanna know about me Jas?


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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #64 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:36pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
Who gives a poo to be honest what religious document condones or doesnt.


DV occurs.


^^^^ The voice of utter ignorance AND inexperience Roll Eyes

You have absolutely NO idea how religion and politics co-function on a social level.

Anyway.....




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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #65 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:17am:



Grin Grin

Jesus teaches love, Mohammed teaches submission - but Jesus is violent and Mohammed is meek.

It takes a Turdy McTurdface to rush in with statistic 'proving' that.



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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #66 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:42pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 2:39am:
Lisa, your religion is also a pox on mankind. Don't defend it. This crap will never stop until you all see the truth in what you defend in your "faiths".


Amen!
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #67 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:17am:



Grin Grin

Jesus teaches love, Mohammed teaches submission - but Jesus is violent and Mohammed is meek.

It takes a Turdy McTurdface to rush in with statistic 'proving' that.





Mohammed who teaches his followers to beat their wives and to kill their enemies.

VS

Jesus Christ who teaches His followers to love and cherish their wives and to love their enemies.

You decide who you would like to follow.
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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #68 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:04pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 11:58pm:
Have you ever been physically abused in a relationship Lisa Jones?


Duh!


Why didn't you just fight back?


A few reasons....

I was 65 kilos, he was 120 kilos.

He frightened me with multiple threats to myself/my family/my unborn child(ren)....and that fear immobilized me.

He was considerably older than me and was a well known lawyer with a lot of family money.

I wasn't allowed to be anything but barefoot, pregnant and without money. My weekly allowance was zero.

His idea of marital sex was full on rape. It was forced and violent leaving me bruised all over. I couldn't even keep my hair long because he would pull it off. So to stop him from hurting my head I used to cut my hair real short....kinda like a guy's hair style.

I had no say over anything. No rights.....wasn't allowed to have an opinion let alone voice it.

I had no say over pregnancy. Even that was forced. And there's still no criminal term for that in domestic violence.

I wasn't even allowed to vote. He would grab my wrist in polling booths and crush it whilst he filled in my election form.

He had a million dollar life insurance policy on me. He took that out when I got pregnant to his twins.

It was a tough 5 years......only God helped me escape. Towards the end....the final 6 months ....I tried to escape a few times but those attempts almost cost me my life.

Anyway....I finally got out with police and family help and was finally able to access heaps of counselling and support.

My 2nd marriage is THE EXACT OPPOSITE. It is awesome!

Life is good. No.....life is great.

Unfortunately the past tends to rear its ugly head here and there. I'm seriously lucky to be alive.

Most women do NOT escape/survive MIDDLE CLASS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. They usually end up murdered.

I probably should be out there helping other women but the trauma of middle class domestic violence is too close to home. Plus I have a family to take care of and they will always come first...esp now that my widowed mum has passed and I'm relied upon to exercise her matriarchal role (as the eldest  daughter in a European family).

These days I'm one TOUGH CHOOK!

YOU DON'T WANNA MESS WITH ME.

Anything else you wanna know about me Jas?




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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #69 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:17am:



Grin Grin

Jesus teaches love, Mohammed teaches submission - but Jesus is violent and Mohammed is meek.

It takes a Turdy McTurdface to rush in with statistic 'proving' that.





Mohammed who teaches his followers to beat their wives and to kill their enemies.

VS

Jesus Christ who teaches His followers to love and cherish their wives and to love their enemies.

You decide who you would like to follow.


Jesus is only the son, YWHY the father makes the rules.
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #70 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:18pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:17am:



Grin Grin

Jesus teaches love, Mohammed teaches submission - but Jesus is violent and Mohammed is meek.

It takes a Turdy McTurdface to rush in with statistic 'proving' that.





Mohammed who teaches his followers to beat their wives and to kill their enemies.

VS

Jesus Christ who teaches His followers to love and cherish their wives and to love their enemies.

You decide who you would like to follow.


Jesus is only the son, YWHY the father makes the rules.


Ummm no.

The Father = The Son = The Holy Spirit
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #71 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:18pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:17am:



Grin Grin

Jesus teaches love, Mohammed teaches submission - but Jesus is violent and Mohammed is meek.

It takes a Turdy McTurdface to rush in with statistic 'proving' that.





Mohammed who teaches his followers to beat their wives and to kill their enemies.

VS

Jesus Christ who teaches His followers to love and cherish their wives and to love their enemies.

You decide who you would like to follow.


Jesus is only the son, YWHY the father makes the rules.


Ummm no.

The Father = The Son = The Holy Spirit


Why have a father and son if they are the same? Which also would show that there was no sacrifice just god giving up a long weekend.
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Reply #72 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:26pm
 
Jesus sounds like a rebellious son, perhaps YHWY should take him to the gates of heaven and have him stoned.
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #73 - Dec 9th, 2017 at 1:17am
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:18pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 7:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:17am:



Grin Grin

Jesus teaches love, Mohammed teaches submission - but Jesus is violent and Mohammed is meek.

It takes a Turdy McTurdface to rush in with statistic 'proving' that.





Mohammed who teaches his followers to beat their wives and to kill their enemies.

VS

Jesus Christ who teaches His followers to love and cherish their wives and to love their enemies.

You decide who you would like to follow.


Jesus is only the son, YWHY the father makes the rules.


Ummm no.

The Father = The Son = The Holy Spirit


Why have a father and son if they are the same? Which also would show that there was no sacrifice just god giving up a long weekend.


Quote:
.................. My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge...........


Colossians 2:1-3
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Re: Domestic Violence is NOT condoned in The Bible
Reply #74 - Dec 9th, 2017 at 1:19am
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
Jesus sounds like a rebellious son, perhaps YHWY should take him to the gates of heaven and have him stoned.


Quote:
............... “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces...........


Matthew 7:6
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