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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #75 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin

Because they are pushing this through without thinking about the ordinary aussie business owner Bobby.
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #76 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #77 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #78 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:50pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?


Well none of them were Halal 20 years ago and now they are. Nobody had a problem before.
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #79 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:51pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin


Poofs are calling it the BELL END times.
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #80 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:52pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin

Because they are pushing this through without thinking about the ordinary aussie business owner Bobby.



We know what's being pushed.  Wink
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #81 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:53pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin

Because they are pushing this through without thinking about the ordinary aussie business owner Bobby.



We know what's being pushed.  Wink

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #82 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:54pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?


Well none of them were Halal 20 years ago and now they are. Nobody had a problem before.


There's no problem now.

Buy the products you like, and don't buy the products you don't like.

What could be simpler?
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #83 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:51pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin


Poofs are calling it the BELL END times.


Arse end even  Grin
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #84 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:56pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin

Because they are pushing this through without thinking about the ordinary aussie business owner Bobby.



We know what's being pushed.  Wink


And where.... Grin
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #85 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?


Well none of them were Halal 20 years ago and now they are. Nobody had a problem before.


There's no problem now.

Buy the products you like, and don't buy the products you don't like.

What could be simpler?

Well gays can get their cakes done at places agreeable with their lifestyle. It's their consumer choice.
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #86 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:00pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
All this nonsense about a poofter wedding cake.

It must be the End Times.   Grin

Because they are pushing this through without thinking about the ordinary aussie business owner Bobby.



We know what's being pushed.  Wink


And where.... Grin



Let's not say Lisa but can we agree that it must be the End Times?
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #87 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?


Well none of them were Halal 20 years ago and now they are. Nobody had a problem before.


There's no problem now.

Buy the products you like, and don't buy the products you don't like.

What could be simpler?

Well gays can get their cakes done at places agreeable with their lifestyle. It's their consumer choice.


Absolutely.

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #88 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:04pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?


Well none of them were Halal 20 years ago and now they are. Nobody had a problem before.


There's no problem now.

Buy the products you like, and don't buy the products you don't like.

What could be simpler?

Well gays can get their cakes done at places agreeable with their lifestyle. It's their consumer choice.


Absolutely.


That's solved then.
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #89 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:05pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 7:08pm:
cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Lets say someone has a problem with blacks, Muslims or Asians (any minority) for what ever reason....Should they be allowed to withhold services from these individuals....Remember the same right to discriminate will apply to everyone....Or is it just gay people who can be discriminated against???

Huh Huh Huh 


I predict that Hammer won't answer that question.

Unless there's a good reason , then no. I respect religious beliefs when it comes to homosexuality though.


So religious people should be treated differently to everyone else and be allowed to discriminate....You do realise the ramifications if such a law was allowed to pass....As homosexuality is not a crime and SSM will become law then there is no legal basis to allow discrimination against homosexuals because of your beliefs....Parliament could enact religious exemptions though which would make it legal to do so....We will have to wait and see but I doubt the legislation to allow religious objection will pass!!!

Huh Huh Huh

No lefties  had a problem with Muslims forcing halal products on the Australian Christian consumer without their knowing?


Nobody is forced to buy or use Halal products.



Maybe Hammer cannot read the label???

Wink Wink Wink



what labels that phil?.....I have searched my supermarket meat labels  and not one of them mentions HALAL or not HALAL...

at least in the ACT....



If it's Halal, the label will say so.

What's the problem?




When did they ask us if we want Allah certifying our Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate??? I'm sure Christians wouldn't like the idea.


Well if they don't like the idea, don't buy the chocolate.

Again, what's the problem?

Why should we have to bend for immigrants? We were here first. How would be go down if loads of our best known products were certified by Christianity. You'd be having a Pecca fit.


Why would I be having a fit?

Religious certification of food is of no concern to me.

Christians can certify every single product on the supermarket shelves, and it would have absolutely no affect on my shopping habits.

The same goes for Scientologists, Jews, and Buddhists.

It's a non-issue.
I'm the same. I'm an atheist. But not everybody is us. People have loads of different beliefs. It doesn't mean we have to bend for them all. It makes society a friggen minefield.


I don't see any 'bending'.

I just see consumers making informed choices about their purchases.

If they don't like something about a particular item, don't buy it.

How much simpler could it be?


So why didn't that logic apply to Muslims ?


It does.

If they don't like the fact that a certain product isn't certified Halal, they won't buy it.

Where's the problem?


Well none of them were Halal 20 years ago and now they are. Nobody had a problem before.


There's no problem now.

Buy the products you like, and don't buy the products you don't like.

What could be simpler?

Well gays can get their cakes done at places agreeable with their lifestyle. It's their consumer choice.


Absolutely.


That's solved then.


I didn't see a problem in the first place.

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