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The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court. (Read 15811 times)
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Reply #180 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm
 
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!
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Reply #181 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #182 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 12:37pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11th, 2017 at 1:06pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2017 at 12:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11th, 2017 at 9:04am:
freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2017 at 8:47am:
They were happy to sell to the gay customers, as explained in the original article and pointed out many times since. If you make a customised product it is entirely at your discretion what product you create. The distinction between discriminating against a product vs customer in that context is meaningless.


Really....So it makes absolutely no difference what the customer wants....Do you understand what customised means....Try to understand the law and not what you believe should be the law!!!

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Do you know what discretion means Phil?


Yes....Do you know what the law is???

Huh Huh Huh


So why did you post that crap about it making no difference what the customer wants? What point are you trying to make?


It has everything to do with what the customer wants....What are you talking about???

Huh Huh Huh


I am trying to get you to make sense. Never mind.


FFS....If you refuse service to someone because they are queer you can be charged with discrimination....If you believe the facts in the case prove different then lets wait and see what the judge says about the law....The shop owner might well be acquitted after all it is America and some State laws vary....Lets see shall we???

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #183 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #184 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:46pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.


He didn't ask what they wanted....He said he would not supply them a custom cake but they can buy anything off the shelf....The court must decide why he refused to provide the service he advertised to these particular men....His reason for refusing service is the whole case!!!

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #185 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:49pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.


He didn't ask what they wanted....He said he would not supply them a custom cake but they can buy anything off the shelf....The court must decide why he refused to provide the service he advertised to these particular men....His reason for refusing service is the whole case!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

What about if a church knocks back a gay wedding?
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #186 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:01pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.


He didn't ask what they wanted....He said he would not supply them a custom cake but they can buy anything off the shelf....The court must decide why he refused to provide the service he advertised to these particular men....His reason for refusing service is the whole case!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

What about if a church knocks back a gay wedding?


How the f@#k would I know....The laws are different everywhere in the world and every religion is different....Perhaps you should ring your local church and ask if they will marry you and your boyfriend if you are concerned???

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #187 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:04pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.


He didn't ask what they wanted....He said he would not supply them a custom cake but they can buy anything off the shelf....The court must decide why he refused to provide the service he advertised to these particular men....His reason for refusing service is the whole case!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

What about if a church knocks back a gay wedding?


How the f@#k would I know....The laws are different everywhere in the world and every religion is different....Perhaps you should ring your local church and ask if they will marry you and your boyfriend if you are concerned???

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Using homosexuality as an insult? That's not very do-gooder of you. Roll Eyes
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #188 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:10pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:04pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.


He didn't ask what they wanted....He said he would not supply them a custom cake but they can buy anything off the shelf....The court must decide why he refused to provide the service he advertised to these particular men....His reason for refusing service is the whole case!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

What about if a church knocks back a gay wedding?


How the f@#k would I know....The laws are different everywhere in the world and every religion is different....Perhaps you should ring your local church and ask if they will marry you and your boyfriend if you are concerned???

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Using homosexuality as an insult? That's not very do-gooder of you. Roll Eyes


I am no do-gooder and I am not an advocate for gay people....Sorry to offend you!!!

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #189 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:11pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:04pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
The main lesson everyone is meant to learn here and in any similar situation is that the Gay Agenda tops your Religious Faith. They can't just move on to the next Baker, this one must be punished. The first Judge to hear this complaint should have had the common decency to tell these offended citizens to drop it and find a different baker!


No, it just needs to be handled differently without either side getting butt hurt. What could the poofs have done if the shop said "No we have no Adam and Steve dolls and we have none on order, we can make the cake but you'll have to find your own decorations."



Whats wrong with "No"? Hate the sin, love the sinner. His shop, his choice what he makes.


He didn't ask what they wanted....He said he would not supply them a custom cake but they can buy anything off the shelf....The court must decide why he refused to provide the service he advertised to these particular men....His reason for refusing service is the whole case!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

What about if a church knocks back a gay wedding?


How the f@#k would I know....The laws are different everywhere in the world and every religion is different....Perhaps you should ring your local church and ask if they will marry you and your boyfriend if you are concerned???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Using homosexuality as an insult? That's not very do-gooder of you. Roll Eyes


I am no do-gooder and I am not an advocate for gay people....Sorry to offend you!!!

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Why are you getting upset at Milo's comments on aboriginal art?
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Reply #190 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:13pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote....
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Why are you getting upset at Milo's comments on aboriginal art?


I never did....You must have me confused with someone else!!!

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Reply #191 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:15pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:13pm:
Mr Hammer wrote....
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Why are you getting upset at Milo's comments on aboriginal art?


I never did....You must have me confused with someone else!!!

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Fair enough. Most aboriginal art is s hit.
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Reply #192 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:27pm
 
My point is that I don't care who this Baker refused a service to, the Law is discriminating against the smallest minority. The individual. While it is legal to force people to perform services they object to that doesn't make it right. Involuntary Servitude is alive and well in the good old United Socialist States of America!
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Reply #193 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm
 
The baker look like he is stuffed to me....

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The Supreme Court is currently hearing arguments the case of a Colorado baker, Jack Phillips, who refused to make a “gay” wedding cake to celebrate a same-sex couple’s marriage. According to Phillips, same-sex marriage violates his religious belief that God only sanctions marriages between a man and a woman. He argues that requiring him to bake the cake violates his First Amendment right to religious freedom.

The strongest legal precedent is Reynolds v. United States (1879). In this case the Supreme Court upheld a federal law banning polygamy. The Court ruled that freedom of religion prevented the government from regulating religious belief, but permitted government to regulate actions such as marriage. The Reynolds decision means that Jack Phillips is free to believe what he wants to believe, but not free to do whatever he wants to do or to claim a religious exemption from equal rights laws.

In the 1960s, Piggie Park was a chain of restaurants in South Carolina that refused to serve African Americans. The owner of the restaurants argued that the federal Civil Rights Act violated religious beliefs that compelled him to “oppose any integration of the races whatever.” Federal courts dismissed his argument and in 1968, in Newman v. Piggie Park Enterprises, the Supreme Court ruled that Piggie Park had to pay Newman’s attorney fees.

In Employment Division v. Smith (1990), the Supreme Court decided that Oregon could deny unemployment benefits to someone who was fired from a job for illegally smoking peyote during a religious ceremony. Once again, the Court ruled religious freedom did not excuse people from obeying the law.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gay-wedding-cakes-and-the-united-states-con...

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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #194 - Dec 13th, 2017 at 8:00am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 11:27pm:
My point is that I don't care who this Baker refused a service to, the Law is discriminating against the smallest minority. The individual. While it is legal to force people to perform services they object to that doesn't make it right. Involuntary Servitude is alive and well in the good old United Socialist States of America!




Like the entire 'NO' campaign - you are being deceitfully misleading by quoting examples from the USA and the Colorado legal system and precedent

WE live in AUSTRALIA - under AUSTRALIAN law

NO Australian retailer or service provider is forced by Australian law to do business with anyone he or she chooses not to


All said and done - it's the order and sale of an overpriced FRUIT CAKE !
What sort of MORON knocks back THAT soft of busimess ?

The last time I checked - NO Australian cake-maker is legally bound to cop one up the butt-hole, to complete a sale transaction





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