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The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court. (Read 2614 times)
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Re: The gay wedding cake has hit the US supreme court.
Reply #15 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 6:52am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
Phil are you saying that Churches can be forced to hold gay weddings?


No....Are you saying it is ok for any business to discriminate and withhold services against someone based on their religious views???

Huh Huh Huh


Yes.
The buisiness has every right too.
Try and order bacon at a muslim owned KFC. They refuse to serve you.

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Reply #16 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 6:59am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 8:22pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
Phil are you saying that Churches can be forced to hold gay weddings?


No....Are you saying it is ok for any business to discriminate and withhold services against someone based on their religious views???

Huh Huh Huh


I haven't made up my mind on this one yet. Consider, for example, the scenario where employees of a catering firm are forced to attend an orgy to serve people sushi. I think it's more about the type of service being offered than the religious views of the people offering it.


For me it is a slippery slope to prejudice....Do you still have an all white bar in your local country pub Freediver???

Wink Wink Wink


Pretty much. The aborigines tend to hang out in the one bar. By choice, I would expect. But you see less of them in the pub these days so it is not as noticeable.

The slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy. You have to draw the line somewhere. You don't draw the line, then shift it way over there just in case it slips in the wrong direction. Otherwise you are saying one groups rights are more important than another's. If you cannot see the rights problem for both sides here, you have already abandoned human rights.


IMO human rights should extend to everyone equally....Why would religious people want to discriminate against gay people anyway considering their violent history of trying to find acceptance and relevance....IMO laws should not be made to give any special treatment to religious discrimination....Let them eat cake!!!

Wink Wink Wink


You are not getting it Phil. Whichever side wins this one, the same rights will apply to everyone.
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Reply #17 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 9:13am
 
mortdooley wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:19am:
So many of you have gone so far down the road to Bizarro world that you can't see that a business owner once had Rights too. The fair thing is that the Baker in this case loses a sale. Forcing him to perform services he won't do otherwise is a form of Slavery. "We reserve the Right to refuse service to anyone" was once recognized as the owners freedom of choice. Now a pair of rump rangers and the courts of Colorado will probably  force an honest business man to lose his livelihood.



I agree let market forces decide. Don't want to sell cakes to gay weddings, forget having my patronage.
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Reply #18 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 9:46am
 
Bojack Horseman wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 9:13am:
mortdooley wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:19am:
So many of you have gone so far down the road to Bizarro world that you can't see that a business owner once had Rights too. The fair thing is that the Baker in this case loses a sale. Forcing him to perform services he won't do otherwise is a form of Slavery. "We reserve the Right to refuse service to anyone" was once recognized as the owners freedom of choice. Now a pair of rump rangers and the courts of Colorado will probably  force an honest business man to lose his livelihood.



1. I agree let market forces decide.

2. Don't want to sell cakes to gay weddings, forget having my patronage.


1. AGREED.

2. MEH!
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Reply #19 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 11:23am
 
Solution:-

"OK - Joe's Patisserie driver here with your wedding cake, Gays... (oops)... stumbled and fell there... SO-RRY!  We'll get you another one next week..... the chef is off sick...."
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Reply #20 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:25pm
 
I wouldn't want to eat a cake ! forced someone to make. Or any other food for that matter!
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Reply #21 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:32pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 11:23am:
Solution:-

"OK - Joe's Patisserie driver here with your wedding cake, Gays... (oops)... stumbled and fell there... SO-RRY!  We'll get you another one next week..... the chef is off sick...."
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Thats a see you in court for failure to fulfill contract.
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Reply #22 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:48pm
 
Lambie brought up the possibility of this happening here on Q&A the other week. Geez society is getting bloody complicated.
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Reply #23 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:06pm
 
Gay wedding cake, I wonder what the icing is made from...
YUCK!!!
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Reply #24 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:09pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:06pm:
Gay wedding cake, I wonder what the icing is made from...
YUCK!!!


Powdered sugar, butter (or margarine), vanilla, and milk?

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Reply #25 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:06pm:
Gay wedding cake, I wonder what the icing is made from...
YUCK!!!


Powdered sugar, butter (or margarine), vanilla, and milk?


You know god botherers could get back at gays for having to make them a cake Pecca? Jack off into the batter. Grin Grin
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Reply #26 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:12pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:06pm:
Gay wedding cake, I wonder what the icing is made from...
YUCK!!!


Powdered sugar, butter (or margarine), vanilla, and milk?


You know god botherers could get back at gays for having to make them a cake Pecca? Jack off into the batter. Grin Grin


How would that get back at them?

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Reply #27 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:14pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:06pm:
Gay wedding cake, I wonder what the icing is made from...
YUCK!!!


Powdered sugar, butter (or margarine), vanilla, and milk?


You know god botherers could get back at gays for having to make them a cake Pecca? Jack off into the batter. Grin Grin


But they'd like that, they probably all have a circle jerk around the cake before they cut it anyway.
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Reply #28 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:16pm
 
Why is it all the people worried about the moral fibre of the coutnry by allowing SSM are focussed on masturbation?
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Reply #29 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:22pm
 
Bojack Horseman wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
Why is it all the people worried about the moral fibre of the country by allowing SSM are focused on masturbation?


It's a mystery.

And why do all the homophobic males think about men?

When I think about gays, I picture young women, in white cotton panties, kissing each other.

Gordon, Hammer, Herbert, et al, on the other hand, picture two blokes either having anal sex, or giving each other oral pleasure.

I guess we're just different.

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