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Reply #15 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:10pm
 
Interesting!

Here's the Victorian Premier:

"Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said the government will introduce public order laws applying additional penalties for wearing masks while engaged in riotous behaviour.

“If you commit a violent act and you are wearing a mask, then you will receive a significantly higher penalty because of the cowardly nature of wearing that mask,” Mr Andrews said.

“You will feel the full force of the law because hardworking Victorians and their government are sick and tired of having to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, indeed millions of dollars, to deal with this sort of riotous behaviour.” Supt Clayton said police welcomed talks with government about laws to help officers deal with people who intend to cause disruption or violent behaviour.
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Reply #16 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 5:51am
 
From the article:

Last year, universities in the US cancelled speaking events hosted by the far-right commentator because of security concerns. Protesters lit fires and smashed windows when he was due to speak at a Californian university earlier this year.
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LW Progs cannot TOLERATE dissent.
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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 6:20am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
Greg, there is nothing in the linked article to back up what you claim. The police are now having to stand guard at events like Milo's because of a small group of idiots who see it as a moral imperative to take the law into their own hands all the time. We see it regularly with Sea Shepherd, Antifa etc. And the apologists blindly support their hypocrisy.



we need to examine the personal psychology of the people involved.

most would probably score highly for 'trait neuroticism". there are always people who are just less resilient and more prone to anxiety. i suppose 'snowflake" is an apt description.
now most would identify as aetheists.
left wingers tend to be of that persuasion.

so how does life look to a sensitive young aetheist.

they see that life is unfair and they are going to die.

on face value, theres a lot to become resentful about in those 2 facts.

and resentment leads to anger or nihilism or both.

anger and hate are not good emotions to just acknowledge.
so their psyche needs to cover this up.
so they pick some group that they think is being treated unfairly....gays, women, islam, refugees, indigenous, whales, cows...it doesnt really matter.
but their psyche can now tell them that their anger has legitimacy and they can now be given carte blanche permission (by their psyche) to express their inner rage.

this is a nasty combination.
when you think you are being virtuous , you get a kick from that. but the real kick is from the hate.
the hate and the desire for authority and power .
its so fascinating that the leftie sees himself as attacking the powerful to "free the oppressed" but he cant see that he is even more murderous then the current power structure.

the current power structure is looking after you. the "patriachy" has hospitals and clean water and electricity and new drugs and is trying its absolute best to keep you alive and keep you safe.  but the leftie knows deep down, he is still going to die and he just cant get over that resentment. till he does he will always be trapped by hate and by his desire for power.

it is for this reason that socialism needs to be resisted at every turn. there is a moral duty of all people not to allow behaviours that are trying to destroy 'life"  and the leftie thru his nihilism and hatred is trying to do just that.

the 150 million odd corpses in russia, china, cambodia ,several african states are testament to the utter depravity of leftie totalitarian ideology
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Reply #19 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 10:20am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:40pm:
Why don't we get any runaway cars in Australia?


It's a pack of bollards.....
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Reply #20 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 10:22am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:50pm:
Here's a bit from a few months ago ..

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"Victoria's police now lets violent Leftists bar peaceful conservatives from going to hear two elected members of Australia's parliament".


"So a violent mob used force for 90 minutes to stop peaceful citizens from meeting two elected politicians. Some physically attacked the citizens, and many abused and intimidated them.

So where were the police during all this?

Police were at the scene, but stayed at a distance. That appeared to be a tactical move, so as not to further ignite the protest.

Pardon?"


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Kristallnacht... police stand by to put out fires and protect German property, firemen put the hoses on rioting Jews.....
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Reply #21 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 10:25am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
When was the last time right wingers turned up to a far left protest to try to shut it down with violence?


In Herbie's OP.


That was lefties trying to shut down Milo.

There is a growing trend among the far left to legitimise censorship over rational debate. We see this strategy explicitly stated with groups like Antifa. They really are too stupid to see how spectacularly it backfires. We also see it more subtly with people who do anything other than address the issue at hand in a debate.


It's like those women at their 'reclaim the night' meetings in public streets who abuse and verbally assault and threaten any passing men.... they simply fail to see the exact similarity between their behaviour and that of those they claim they are trying to prevent from doing nasty things.

Cutting out attacks on innocent random women by attacking innocent random men - yeah - that'll work.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 10:30am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 6:20am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
Greg, there is nothing in the linked article to back up what you claim. The police are now having to stand guard at events like Milo's because of a small group of idiots who see it as a moral imperative to take the law into their own hands all the time. We see it regularly with Sea Shepherd, Antifa etc. And the apologists blindly support their hypocrisy.



we need to examine the personal psychology of the people involved.

most would probably score highly for 'trait neuroticism". there are always people who are just less resilient and more prone to anxiety. i suppose 'snowflake" is an apt description.
now most would identify as aetheists.
left wingers tend to be of that persuasion.

so how does life look to a sensitive young aetheist.

they see that life is unfair and they are going to die.

on face value, theres a lot to become resentful about in those 2 facts.

and resentment leads to anger or nihilism or both.

anger and hate are not good emotions to just acknowledge.
so their psyche needs to cover this up.
so they pick some group that they think is being treated unfairly....gays, women, islam, refugees, indigenous, whales, cows...it doesnt really matter.
but their psyche can now tell them that their anger has legitimacy and they can now be given carte blanche permission (by their psyche) to express their inner rage.

this is a nasty combination.
when you think you are being virtuous , you get a kick from that. but the real kick is from the hate.
the hate and the desire for authority and power .
its so fascinating that the leftie sees himself as attacking the powerful to "free the oppressed" but he cant see that he is even more murderous then the current power structure.

the current power structure is looking after you. the "patriachy" has hospitals and clean water and electricity and new drugs and is trying its absolute best to keep you alive and keep you safe.  but the leftie knows deep down, he is still going to die and he just cant get over that resentment. till he does he will always be trapped by hate and by his desire for power.

it is for this reason that socialism needs to be resisted at every turn. there is a moral duty of all people not to allow behaviours that are trying to destroy 'life"  and the leftie thru his nihilism and hatred is trying to do just that.

the 150 million odd corpses in russia, china, cambodia ,several african states are testament to the utter depravity of leftie totalitarian ideology


The only problem there is confusing extreme 'socialism' with ALL socialism.  The 'patriarchy' you speak of provides hospitals etc out of a socialist knowledge that the best outcomes for all (if possible) mean a better society all round, not because that 'patriarchy' is inherently noble and generous.

Hence my clear distinction between Socialism and Stalinism (or communism as acted out).
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Reply #23 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 11:58am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
Is anyone surprised?

Don't like what someone is saying in a Free Speech democracy? ~ Then SHOUT them down or sh*t all over their threads like Karnal and Gregg see it as their daily mission to do here. Behave like you accuse them of behaving. Use VIOLENCE and lots of noise to distracts from what the speaker or writer is saying is his or her opinion on certain matters.



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Why don't you put your balls in your hand and get up there and make those public statements yourself?

Because you're full of it buddy that's why!!

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Reply #24 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:00pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:28pm:
Good onya Milo.

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The photos of the Muslims there is self-explanatory for why he says they should be sent packing back to the Middle East. They obviously like to live as Middle Easterners here with nothing more than an eye on the economic benefits this country affords them.

They should be packed up and shipped out as intransigent aliens whose primary loyalties will always be owed to elsewhere instead of Australia.

Are you avoiding the elephant in the room?

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freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
When was the last time right wingers turned up to a far left protest to try to shut it down with violence? Outside of the middle east it is unheard of.

When was the last time a right winger had a pulse?
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freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
When was the last time right wingers turned up to a far left protest to try to shut it down with violence?


In Herbie's OP.


That was lefties trying to shut down Milo.

There is a growing trend among the far left to legitimise censorship over rational debate. We see this strategy explicitly stated with groups like Antifa. They really are too stupid to see how spectacularly it backfires. We also see it more subtly with people who do anything other than address the issue at hand in a debate.

Which is the promotion of paedophilia?
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Reply #27 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
Greg, there is nothing in the linked article to back up what you claim. The police are now having to stand guard at events like Milo's because of a small group of idiots who see it as a moral imperative to take the law into their own hands all the time. We see it regularly with Sea Shepherd, Antifa etc. And the apologists blindly support their hypocrisy.

Yet you are the one apologising for his comments regarding 13 year old kids being able to consent to sex with adults!
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Reply #28 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:09pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 5:56am:
LW Progs cannot TOLERATE dissent.

I think you spelt "paedophilia" incorrectly  Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Dec 5th, 2017 at 1:12pm
 
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:30pm:
When was the last time right wingers turned up to a far left protest to try to shut it down with violence?


In Herbie's OP.


That was lefties trying to shut down Milo.

There is a growing trend among the far left to legitimise censorship over rational debate. We see this strategy explicitly stated with groups like Antifa. They really are too stupid to see how spectacularly it backfires. We also see it more subtly with people who do anything other than address the issue at hand in a debate.

Which is the promotion of paedophilia?


Milo has outed pedophiles which appears to contradict the lies he supports it.

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A note for idiots (UPDATED):

I do not support pedophilia. Period. It is a vile and disgusting crime, perhaps the very worst. There are selectively edited videos doing the rounds, as part of a co-ordinated effort to discredit me from establishment Republicans, that suggest I am soft on the subject.


If it somehow comes across (through my own sloppy phrasing or through deceptive editing) that I meant any of the ugly things alleged, let me set the record straight: I am completely disgusted by the abuse of children.

Some facts to consider:
1. I have outed THREE pedophiles in my career as a journalist. That's three more than any of my critics and a peculiar strategy for a supposed pedophile apologist.

(a) Luke Bozier, former business partner of Louise Mensch
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/…/menshn-co-founder-embroile…/
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/…/…/3746/luke-bozier-arrested/
(b) Nicholas Nyberg, anti-GamerGate activist who self-described as a pedophile and white nationalist
http://www.breitbart.com/…/leading-gamergate-critic-sarah-…/
(c) Chris Leydon, a London photographer who has a rape trial starting March 13 thanks to my reporting.
http://www.breitbart.com/…/tech-city-darling-chris-leydon-…/

2. I have repeatedly expressed disgust at pedophiles in my journalism.
http://www.breitbart.com/…/heres-why-the-progressive-left-…/

3. I have never defended and would never defend child abusers, as my reporting history shows. The world is messy and complicated, and I recognize it as such, as this furore demonstrates. But that is a red line for any decent person.

4. The videos do not show what people say they show. I *did* joke about giving better head as a result of clerical sexual abuse committed against me when I was a teen. If I choose to deal in an edgy way on an internet livestream with a crime I was the victim of that's my prerogative. It's no different to gallows humor from AIDS sufferers.

5. National Review, whose journalists are tweeting about this, published an article defending Salon for giving a pedophile a platform.

6. I did say that there are relationships between younger men and older men that can help a young gay man escape from a lack of support or understanding at home. That's perfectly true and every gay man knows it. But I was not talking about anything illegal and I was not referring to pre-pubescent boys.

7. I said in the same "Drunken Peasants" podcast from which the footage is taken that I agree with the current age of consent.

8. I shouldn't have used the word "boy" when I talked about those relationships between older men and younger gay men. (I was talking about my own relationship when I was 17 with a man who was 29. The age of consent in the UK is 16.) That was a mistake. Gay men often use the word "boy" when they refer to consenting adults. I understand that heterosexual people might not know that, so it was a sloppy choice of words that I regret.

9. This rush to judgment from establishment conservatives who hate Trump as much as they hate me, before I have had any chance to provide context or a response, is one of the big reasons gays vote Democrat.

10. In case there is any lingering doubt, here's me, in the same interview the other footage is taken from, affirming that the current legal age of consent is about right: "And I think the law is probably about right. It's probably roughly the right age. I think it's probably about ok. But there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age. I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who were sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world, by the way

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905
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