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Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:21pm
 
WHAT a Ferking Joke the BOM is...  Roll Eyes

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Why we won’t believe Bureau of Meteorology’s extreme weather forecasts


THEY promised Stormageddon.


They said it was a
“10” out of "10"
storm and “uncharted territory”.


Half of us would never have seen anything like it, they said.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Homes and lives would be at risk. Farms would turn into lakes, they said.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But many parts of Victoria, particularly around in Melbourne, got little more than constant drizzle over the weekend.
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This is why many people believe the Bureau of Meteorology cried wolf with its weather forecasting last week.

Anyone from Victoria is used to crazy weather.

It’s a bit cold when it’s minus three.

It’s a bit hot when it’s 43 degrees in the shade.

It’s a bit wet when it’s a torrential downpour.

But when the weather bureau tells us there is going to be a rain event unprecedented in our lifetime, people do listen.

When the weather bureau tells us there is going to be a
rain event unprecedented in our lifetime,
people do listen,

When we get text messages from the SES telling us to expect flooding, and to check on family and friends, we do listen.

Yes, it is better to be safe than sorry. However, I would have liked a little more explanation given that the event predicted didn’t eventuate.

And I would hope for an acknowledgment by the bureau that some of the language used wasn’t justified and should be subject to review.

Otherwise they run the risk of people not listening the next time they issue the same warnings.

On Thursday last week, Bureau of Meteorology forecaster Scott Williams warned: “It is an event that poses a threat to life, there will be a massive amount of lightning, there will be roads cut, flood waters.”  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

“Half the inhabitants of Melbourne have probably never seen something like this.

“This is a vast, intense, high impact event for this state.”
  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The bureau was promising the most “significant rain even in more than 20 years”.

“If you wake up (on Friday) and think it isn’t going to happen you’ll just have to wait a while.

They didn’t think the Titanic would sink either, but it did,” Mr Williams said.  Cheesy

He said the biggest risk was for Melbourne, would be hit with extensive flooding which would impact on infrastructure.

People believed the bureau’s reports and so major events such as the Taste of Melbourne, Polo in the City, Opera in the Bowl, Arts Centre Melbourne’s outdoor Christmas market, Tennis Victoria Premier League and all grades of Victorian Premier Cricket were cancelled.

International flights were diverted and some were delayed.

The reality was a little different.

Melbourne recorded more than 66 millimetres of rain over the weekend  Grin — receiving its December average in the first three days of the month.

But some parts of Melbourne received as little as 25 millimetres.  Grin

The towns of Euroa and Myrtleford had extensive flooding, but there was little flooding elsewhere and none in Melbourne over the weekend.

By Sunday Premier Daniel Andrews was defending the bureau, saying the total of rainfall was “absolutely accurate”.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

“The intensity of it was different and the exact location of it was a bit different, that’s something we all should be happy about,” he said.

State weather bureau manager Dr Andrew Tupper also said the storms were “pretty much as we described”.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

It’s not true. There was a big gap between what was predicted and what happened.


Mr Andrews can say that it was predicted that
“200-250mm of rain would fall, that’s exactly what happened”.
  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But we were told to expect that amount of rain
across the entire state
.

While the people of Myrtleford and Euroa were no doubt grateful for the warnings, the rest of us are wondering what happened.

Despite the fact that 2700 calls for assistance were received, only 73 homes across the state were affected by flooding.

But it seems strange to me that officials continue to defend the type of language used in the lead up to the weekend.

Dr Tupper said: “If we had our time again, yes, we would put out an event with similar language to that”.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I appreciate that the bureau needs to be proactive and err on the side of caution. I also appreciate that, despite all of the technological advances, weather forecasting is an inexact science.

As they’ve said, coming up with accurate forecasts four days in advance is not always easy, especially given the speed and unpredictability of major weather events like storms.

While it’s a great relief that no lives were lost, people who took action as a result of the warnings deserve more of an explanation. This includes those who lost income in closing business and cancelling events.

The real worry is that people may not take as much notice next time, when the catastrophe might be real.


this would have to be the biggest joke of all time in the HISTORY OF THE BOM...

we got under 20 mm where I am but were told we'd be hit with 200mm PLUS...

as a few clouds came in an old timer said to me... pfft... wont be much in it...

he was exactly 100% right

they wheeled out the "sign" person.. Dan Andrews gave warning on tv... ffs... what a joke  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:27pm
 
Bring back the good old days when people would die every time there was freak weather, eh?
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They forecast the worst possible scenario, in order to cover their arse from insurance company lawsuits.



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Reply #3 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm:
They forecast the worst possible scenario, in order to cover their arse ass from insurance company lawsuits.




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Reply #4 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:37pm
 
I have never heard anything like this....

they were hysterical....

as I said above... they wheeled out the sign persons like they do after or during a massive crisis...

they told people to go to the supermarket and stock up on food and water etc...

STAY INSIDE!!!!!!!

BUNKER DOWN!!!!!!!!

people panicked getting their ladders out to clean their own drains...  I heard that at least a dozen people fell off their ladders and broke bones and/or got a back injury...

they should sue the Andrews government...
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Reply #5 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:38pm
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm:
They forecast the worst possible scenario, in order to cover their arse ass protect themselves from insurance company lawsuits.





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Reply #6 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
I have never heard anything like this....

they were hysterical....

as I said above... they wheeled out the sign persons like they do after or during a massive crisis...

they told people to go to the supermarket and stock up on food and water etc...

STAY INSIDE!!!!!!!

BUNKER DOWN!!!!!!!!

people panicked getting their ladders out to clean their own drains...  I heard that at least a dozen people fell off their ladders and broke bones and/or got a back injury...

they should sue the Andrews government...


The same thing happens here in Perth.

They predict flooding and hurricanes, and we get 20mm of rain and 30kph wind guts.

As I said, it's to protect themselves from lawsuits.

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Reply #7 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
I have never heard anything like this....

they were hysterical....

as I said above... they wheeled out the sign persons like they do after or during a massive crisis...

they told people to go to the supermarket and stock up on food and water etc...

STAY INSIDE!!!!!!!

BUNKER DOWN!!!!!!!!

people panicked getting their ladders out to clean their own drains...  I heard that at least a dozen people fell off their ladders and broke bones and/or got a back injury...

they should sue the Andrews government...


The same thing happens here in Perth.

They predict flooding and hurricanes, and we get 20mm of rain and 30kph wind guts.

As I said, it's to protect themselves from lawsuits.



but even today they are still saying that they were right...

like wtf?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

but they are dodging media who are calling them out..

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The Bureau of Meteorology’s overstating of the supposed super storm over the weekend has damaged its reputation, according to Neil Mitchell.

“It’s the bureau who cried wolf,” Neil said on 3AW Mornings today.

“The next time there’s a more serious warning people won’t take it as seriously.”

Neil was also critical of Bureau’s “dodging” of accountability today.

“On Friday we asked for an interview, more than 48 hours ago, and today they tell us they are unavailable,” he said.
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Reply #8 - Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:54pm
 
They are predicting the future for you, in great detail, better than they have ever been able to do before. The only thing that is hysterical is people's over-reaction when they get it wrong.
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Reply #9 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 4:52pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
They are predicting the future for you, in great detail, better than they have ever been able to do before. The only thing that is hysterical is people's over-reaction when they get it wrong.



Better yes, but still terrible. We travelled by car from Adelaide to north Victoria the day of the supposed 'stormof the century'. it didnt even rain after and hour out of adelaide. What rain there was wouldnt have been considered any more than a bit heavier than the usual december rain.

BOM do this all the time. In adelaide we are routinely told to 'batten down' in the face of massive storms only to get a light rain and a bit of a breeze.  and this isnt occasional, it is almost ALL THE TIME. And when they are actually right, they are never on time, sometimes days after.


and yet, we are expected to believe their 50year out predictions when they can even get next week right - or close to it.
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Reply #10 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 5:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
Bring back the good old days when people would die every time there was freak weather, eh?


Well, in those dirty tinted countries, sure.

Not here.
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BOM do this all the time. In adelaide we are routinely told to 'batten down' in the face of massive storms only to get a light rain and a bit of a breeze.


And so they should. Better safe than sorry. The more extreme the event, the more difficult it is to predict. That shouldn't stop them warning people, and only a fool would interpret as a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

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and yet, we are expected to believe their 50year out predictions when they can even get next week right - or close to it.


What 50 year predictions do they have for the weather in Melbourne? Please tell me if it will be raining in the Melbourne CBD on Dec 6 2067....
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Reply #12 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
WHAT a Ferking Joke the BOM is... 


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But many parts of Victoria, particularly around in Melbourne, got little more than constant drizzle over the weekend.


Still haven't learned to post a link yet I see Mechanic. You should ask an adult if you want to learn how.

Of course Mechanic is hysterically wrong. Many places did get floods in Victoria over the weekend. My own rain gauge in the Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne recorded 93mm in the space of 48 hours. Many parts in the NE of the state had 200 mm.
In fact the forecast was pretty accurate except that it happened further east than was forecast which is actually pretty impressive.

So why do The Mechanic and Longy run such a campaign against the Bureau of meteorology? Maybe its something to do with their Global Warming denial  Grin Grin Grin
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I think he's upset that no-one died.
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Reply #14 - Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:48pm:
I think he's upset that no-one died.


Well, would you let your sister marry one?

Tell the truth now.
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Reply #15 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 12:04am
 
It peed down rain the other day. 100mm in an hour. Some places got up to 150mm in an hour around the Berserker region. My suburb got around 50 to 100mm in an hour. South Rockhampton must have got over 100mm in an hour -- judging by their flooded streets. But the airport only registered 25mm in their official rain gauges. Perhaps they should move the gauge, or have another rain gauge over the north side of town, and do an average reading. I doubt this town has had only 900mm for the year.
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Reply #16 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:55am
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
Bring back the good old days when people would die every time there was freak weather, eh?


Well, in those dirty tinted countries, sure.

Not here.


Can't help yourself can you?

That's not sarcasm, it's not funny and it's not relevant.

3 out of 3 for you ......'rayyyyyyy  Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 7:00am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
WHAT a Ferking Joke the BOM is... 


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But many parts of Victoria, particularly around in Melbourne, got little more than constant drizzle over the weekend.


Still haven't learned to post a link yet I see Mechanic. You should ask an adult if you want to learn how.

Of course Mechanic is hysterically wrong. Many places did get floods in Victoria over the weekend. My own rain gauge in the Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne recorded 93mm in the space of 48 hours. Many parts in the NE of the state had 200 mm.
In fact the forecast was pretty accurate except that it happened further east than was forecast which is actually pretty impressive.

So why do The Mechanic and Longy run such a campaign against the Bureau of meteorology? Maybe its something to do with their Global Warming denial  Grin Grin Grin


Grin Grin 93 ml in 48 hrs ..... only just 4 inches in 48 hrs.

that's not rain ......... it's mist.  Grin
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Reply #18 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:17am
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 7:00am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
WHAT a Ferking Joke the BOM is... 


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But many parts of Victoria, particularly around in Melbourne, got little more than constant drizzle over the weekend.


Still haven't learned to post a link yet I see Mechanic. You should ask an adult if you want to learn how.

Of course Mechanic is hysterically wrong. Many places did get floods in Victoria over the weekend. My own rain gauge in the Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne recorded 93mm in the space of 48 hours. Many parts in the NE of the state had 200 mm.
In fact the forecast was pretty accurate except that it happened further east than was forecast which is actually pretty impressive.

So why do The Mechanic and Longy run such a campaign against the Bureau of meteorology? Maybe its something to do with their Global Warming denial  Grin Grin Grin


Grin Grin 93 ml in 48 hrs ..... only just 4 inches in 48 hrs.

that's not rain ......... it's mist.  Grin


you have to remember gnads..

4 inches is a big deal to some people ... wink wink...  Wink
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Reply #19 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 11:23am
 
they said that the "rain event" would be state wide...

300mm...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

gale force winds...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

plummeting temperatures...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hail stones like golf balls...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

don't go outside...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

people will lose their lives...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

rush out to the supermarket and stock up on food etc...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

its a 10 out of 10 storm event!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

RUN FOR THE HILLS Henny Penny!!!!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

and what did we get?

misty rain, slightly elevated winds and nice mild temperates of around 18c...

the BOM is full of shiit trying to make itself relevant...

ffs... they need their funding pulled...

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Warning of a ‘threat to life’ as vast rain event bears down on southern Australia


SANDBAGS are being distributed and there are warnings lives could be lost as a “high impact weather event” prepares to hit.

THE Bureau of Meteorology has warned of a weather conditions that could threaten lives as Australia’s south east stares down what is being dubbed a “vast, intense, high impact weather event.”

Premier Daniel Andrews has urged Victorians not to put themselves in harms way and divert the stretched resources of the emergency services.

And it’s not just Victoria — just about every capital could get drenched. Parts of NSW could get “more than a month’s rain in 36 hours”. Victoria, Tasmania and NSW are now officially on flood alert.

There are now fears three months of rain could fall in just a few days across Victoria with 300mm mooted in some areas as a front powers through southern Australia aided by tropical moisture further north. The State Emergency Service is handing out sandbags in Melbourne for worried residents.

Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) senior meteorologist Scott Williams said much of the rain could come in one dumping, raising flooding fears.

“It is an event that poses a threat to life, there will be a massive amount of lightning, there will be roads cut, flood waters,” he said on Thursday.

“Those thunderstorms will gradually all weld into a massive, great rain band, and that band will spread down across the state on Friday night and Saturday morning.

“This is a vast, intense, high-impact event for this state. I think this event will turn farms into lakes.”  Cheesy

The BoM issued an unprecedented severe weather warning for heavy rainfall for the entire state of Victoria
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Reply #20 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:00pm
 
Looks entirely reasonable to me, given the outcome.
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Reply #21 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Looks entirely reasonable to me, given the outcome.


the outcome to 99% of Victoria was a light mist and just enough wind to untidy your hair...

fair dinkum..  Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:12pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Looks entirely reasonable to me, given the outcome.


the outcome to 99% of Victoria was a light mist and just enough wind to untidy your hair...

fair dinkum..  Roll Eyes


As FD said, better to be safe than sorry.

They always forecast the worst possible scenario now, in order to avoid lawsuits from insurance companies.

And, they'll never admit they got it wrong, as that would be used in court.

It's all about covering their arses, legally.

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Reply #23 - Dec 7th, 2017 at 4:29pm
 
Go without mowing the lawn for 2 months. Spring comes around and I have to mow the lawn just about every week.
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The Mechanic wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Looks entirely reasonable to me, given the outcome.


the outcome to 99% of Victoria was a light mist and just enough wind to untidy your hair...

fair dinkum..  Roll Eyes


Now who is being hysterical? The entire eastern half of the state got over 5cm of rain. Are they supposed to produce those rainfall maps before the storm hits? Or do you think common sense might be a god substitute?
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Reply #25 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 1:57pm
 
The storms fronts the east coast of Australia experiences from time to time are a reason why you can't build an electrical network where your main sources of power are only solar and wind.
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Reply #26 - Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:59pm
 
Actually, if you want hysterics, check out higgins storm chasing. It keeps showing up on my facebook feed.
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freediver wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
Actually, if you want hysterics, check out higgins storm chasing. It keeps showing up on my facebook feed.


I have them on my facebook page. The good weather information they give goes unappreciated. Apparently, the critics don't like the Back of Bourke accent the storm chasers have when presenting their videos.
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