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Reply #90 - Dec 10th, 2017 at 12:13am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 12:03am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 10:23pm:
I see migrants everyday living in Sydney and they don't seem happy at all. I apprecriate all the great things we have but something seems to be missing.


And what would that be, Hammer?

A great society of course should ensure the primacy of the White peoples, over all other peoples, right?  They should know their places, at the bottom of the pyramid of life, supporting people like yourself simply because you were born with less Melanin in your skin cells than they have, right?  All their women should seek to sleep with you simply because you lord it over all people because of the colour of your skin, right?

Run along, little man, run along.  I'm sure there is a meeting over at Stormfront which you can join in.   Take your Tiki Torche and don't forget to wear your white sheet.   Burning crosses are provided free of charge.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

People aren't happy brian. Australia has changed for white people and migrants live in a alien country so they feel excluded. Australia is stale. Australia too controlled by people like you. Look at this Christmas?? Nobody cares!!


If I controlled Australia, Hammer you'd be in for a big surprise, Hammer.  A big surprise.  Australia is happy, vibrant and alive, Hammer, despite the best efforts of people like you and Soren and Herbie.   Roll Eyes


Yes, Brian, but like FD, they want a vibrant attack on the Muselman. That's a start, shurely.

After that, we'll go for the apologist and the Jew.
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Reply #91 - Dec 10th, 2017 at 11:21am
 
You post so much crap over this site karnal.
You are like a dog whose owner doesn't pick up after you... Roll Eyes
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Reply #92 - Dec 10th, 2017 at 11:24am
 
Auggie wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 9:26pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 8:45pm:
I would expect then that Muslims cannot Assimilate into Australian society.  Ever...

As Islam is not simply a religion but a way of life.  For Muslims to Assimilate here Australia would need to become an Islamic State. Roll Eyes


I disagree. They can integrate/assimilate. Anyone is capable of doing so. It might be harder but it’s not impossible.

Um no....  you are wrong.
Unless Islam has a major attitude change it cannot.
You do understand why right?
To assimilate or integrate they would have to stop being Muslims.
To most Muslims they would then be apostates and we all know the price Islam demands for apostacy.
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Reply #93 - Dec 24th, 2017 at 11:20pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 11:21am:
You post so much crap over this site karnal.
You are like a dog whose owner doesn't pick up after you... Roll Eyes

Bwian and Gandalf do not pick up ....  They scatter but do not pick up.


The best you can hope for is that kameeeeel will miam-miam his own scat. He is eager to eat up every other.



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Reply #94 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


A Japanese person does know that she is not African or European or an Arab or Indian. Do we tell her she is a total racist idiot for thinking of herself as 'Japanese' and not any other race? Is a Sudanese supposed to think of himself as indistinguishable from a Finn?? How??




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Reply #95 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


A Japanese person does know that she is not African or European or an Arab or Indian. Do we tell her she is a total racist idiot for thinking of herself as 'Japanese' and not any other race? Is a Sudanese supposed to think of himself as indistinguishable from a Finn?? How??


"Race" is a social construct.  There are more differences genetically within the various "racial" groups than between them.  "Race" as used by racists is something they have constructed out of superficial physical differences between groups of people who have adapted through evolution to different environment needs.   Anybody who believes in the concept of "race" as used by racists is being fooled by them.   There is only one "race" the Human one.   We are all members.  We are all basically Genetically identical and all come from the same ancestry.    We originated in Africa and spread from there.   We are all Africans in origin. 
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Reply #96 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:30pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


A Japanese person does know that she is not African or European or an Arab or Indian. Do we tell her she is a total racist idiot for thinking of herself as 'Japanese' and not any other race? Is a Sudanese supposed to think of himself as indistinguishable from a Finn?? How??


"Race" is a social construct.  There are more differences genetically within the various "racial" groups than between them.  "Race" as used by racists is something they have constructed out of superficial physical differences between groups of people who have adapted through evolution to different environment needs.   Anybody who believes in the concept of "race" as used by racists is being fooled by them.   There is only one "race" the Human one.   We are all members.  We are all basically Genetically identical and all come from the same ancestry.    We originated in Africa and spread from there.   We are all Africans in origin. 

You have avoided the question.

What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?
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Reply #97 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


A Japanese person does know that she is not African or European or an Arab or Indian. Do we tell her she is a total racist idiot for thinking of herself as 'Japanese' and not any other race? Is a Sudanese supposed to think of himself as indistinguishable from a Finn?? How??


"Race" is a social construct.  There are more differences genetically within the various "racial" groups than between them.  "Race" as used by racists is something they have constructed out of superficial physical differences between groups of people who have adapted through evolution to different environment needs.   Anybody who believes in the concept of "race" as used by racists is being fooled by them.   There is only one "race" the Human one.   We are all members.  We are all basically Genetically identical and all come from the same ancestry.    We originated in Africa and spread from there.   We are all Africans in origin. 

oh dear bwian is spouting crap again.
There are recognisable races bwian, you know it I know it we all know it.  Even biologists and scientists know it.
You once more are speading PC propaganda.

BTW the out of Africa Theory is simply that bwian you need to keep up with the science.  There are other theories.

If only you were as intelligent as you think you are. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #98 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
By Bwian Pecca

"There are more differences genetically within the various "racial" groups than between them."


• See this^^^^ that's total and utter bullshit!
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Reply #99 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 9:35pm
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


A Japanese person does know that she is not African or European or an Arab or Indian. Do we tell her she is a total racist idiot for thinking of herself as 'Japanese' and not any other race? Is a Sudanese supposed to think of himself as indistinguishable from a Finn?? How??


"Race" is a social construct.  There are more differences genetically within the various "racial" groups than between them.  "Race" as used by racists is something they have constructed out of superficial physical differences between groups of people who have adapted through evolution to different environment needs.   Anybody who believes in the concept of "race" as used by racists is being fooled by them.   There is only one "race" the Human one.   We are all members.  We are all basically Genetically identical and all come from the same ancestry.    We originated in Africa and spread from there.   We are all Africans in origin. 

You have avoided the question.

What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


Genetically, they are essentially identical.  It is what allows an Asian or an African or a European to interbreed, Agnes.  I have not avoided the question I've attempted to explain why it is a pointless question.  "Race" is a social construct.  It was created as a concept to justify the Europeans' domination of peoples in first the New World and then later in Asia and Africa and finally Oceania.    As a social construct, it is meaningless scientifically.   It has little scientific basis and is merely used by racists to justify their supposed supremacy over others, Agnes.

We are all Africans.  Remember that.

What makes a Japanese person Japanese?  The society around them.   What makes an African an African?  The society surrounding them.   It is how we self-identify, not who we are, Genetically.
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Reply #100 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 9:48pm
 
YOU ARE WRONG BWIAN...  BUT HEY...  YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT SO MUCH...  GET YOURSELF AN EDUCATION DR OF DIVINITY...
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Reply #101 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 9:52pm
 
I tried to find someone you might believe bwian... since you believe so few people who don't believe your word is infallible.

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"Social construct"? Forget it. Race is biologically real.
But it's irrelevant to anything that matters. We're all HUMAN.
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Reply #102 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 10:14pm
 
The "Out of Africa" theory is under fire these days and more knowledge is making the "Multiregional" Theory more popular and plausible.

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The research suggests that humans might not have evolved in Africa and then left, as has long been thought to be the case, researchers Xinzhi Wu of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Sheela Athreya of Texas A&M University told the New Scientist. The similarities suggest that the early modern humans might not have been isolated in one place as their characteristics evolved, the scientists say, instead sharing characteristics across the world.


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Scientists say the species, which is known only from a lower jawbone and a single tooth, may prove that modern man originated in Europe and not Africa.


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[CHRISTOPHER STRINGER:] At the moment, I'm looking again at the whole question of a recent African origin for modern humans—the leading idea over the last 20 years. This argues  that we had a recent African origin, that we came out of Africa, and that we replaced all of the other human forms that were outside of Africa. But we're having to re-evaluate that now because genetic data suggest that the modern humans who came out of Africa about 60,000 years ago probably interbred with Neanderthals, first of all, and then some of them later on interbred with another group of people called the Denisovans, over in south eastern Asia.

If this is so, then we are not purely of recent African origin. We're mostly of recent African origin, but there was contact with these other so-called species. We're having to re-evaluate the Out-of-Africa theory, and we're having to re-evaluate the species concepts we apply, because in one view of thinking, species should be self-contained units. They don't interbreed with other species. However, for me, the whole idea of Neanderthals as a different species is really a recognition of their separate evolutionary history—the fact that we can show that they evolved through time in a particular direction, distinct from modern humans, and they separated maybe 400,000 years ago from our lineage. And morphologically we can distinguish a relatively complete Neanderthal fossil from any recent human.


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A further big surprise was that not only were there distinct humans in Siberia maybe 50,000 years ago, but when whole genome scans were done against modern humans, it turned out that there was one group of living humans that seemed to be related to the Denisovans, that had Denisovan DNA in them, and these people are down in Australasia. They're in New Guinea, Australia, and some neighbouring islands, so that's also very unexpected.


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We end up with quite a complex story, with even some of this ancient DNA coming back into modern humans within Africa. So our evolutionary story is mostly, but not absolutely, a Recent African Origin.
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Reply #103 - Jan 4th, 2018 at 8:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm:
Bertie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


A Japanese person does know that she is not African or European or an Arab or Indian. Do we tell her she is a total racist idiot for thinking of herself as 'Japanese' and not any other race? Is a Sudanese supposed to think of himself as indistinguishable from a Finn?? How??


"Race" is a social construct.  There are more differences genetically within the various "racial" groups than between them.  "Race" as used by racists is something they have constructed out of superficial physical differences between groups of people who have adapted through evolution to different environment needs.   Anybody who believes in the concept of "race" as used by racists is being fooled by them.   There is only one "race" the Human one.   We are all members.  We are all basically Genetically identical and all come from the same ancestry.    We originated in Africa and spread from there.   We are all Africans in origin. 

You have avoided the question.

What makes an African an African, a European a European, an Asian an Asian if they are all the same?


Genetically, they are essentially identical.  It is what allows an Asian or an African or a European to interbreed, Agnes.  I have not avoided the question I've attempted to explain why it is a pointless question.  "Race" is a social construct.  It was created as a concept to justify the Europeans' domination of peoples in first the New World and then later in Asia and Africa and finally Oceania.    As a social construct, it is meaningless scientifically.   It has little scientific basis and is merely used by racists to justify their supposed supremacy over others, Agnes.

We are all Africans.  Remember that.

What makes a Japanese person Japanese?  The society around them.   What makes an African an African?  The society surrounding them.   It is how we self-identify, not who we are, Genetically. 

So you are saying that there are significant and identifiable social differences between what we refer to, in short-hand, as races.

And so if 'racial' difference is unacceptable we can use the term 'societal' or social' differencee to distinguish between cultures and societies that are obviously different.

Can we use geography as a short hand? Can we say, for example, 'sub-Saharan African cultures', or 'North European cultures', or ' Middle Eastern cultures'?  Can we add specific cultural identities such as religion, custom, tradition? For example, 'Sub-Saharan animist cultures' or 'Middle Eastern Muslim people', or ' Catholic Europeans' or 'Protestant Europeans'?   Or must we deny everyone their cultural roots and identities and treat them as acultural, of no particular race or history or culture or place that determine people's identities?   

How does it actually work, this "we are all Africans, remember" thing?  Can we say to Muslim Arabs to remember that are, after all,  mere Africans so they should dispense with the paraphernalia of non-African dress and customs? ? The Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese and rest of them? I don't think they would accept your proposal. They most certainly do not think of themselves as Africans.

Nor do you, I am pretty sure.








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Reply #104 - Jan 4th, 2018 at 8:54pm
 
Bertie wrote on Jan 4th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
How does it actually work, this "we are all Africans, remember" thing?



All we need to remember is how Africans bash and pillage in Melbourne and how they need to be deported, as Israel is doing right now
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