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Reply #1 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 11:33am

Is that a semi auto centrefire rifle on his back in the picture, nothing to worry about he obviously has passed all the background checks by police to have a Category D firearm.

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A gun dealer and feral pig shooter from Mackay who secured One Nation's first, and likely only seat in the state election will be a strong voice for regional Queensland, party leader Pauline Hanson has said.

With 75 per cent of the vote counted, One Nation's candidate Stephen Andrew has secured enough preferences to take the northern seat of Mirani, ousting Labor MP Jim Pearce.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-28/stephen-andrew-wont-be-last-to-win-seat-fo...

One Nation has outpolled the Greens they also have the largest positive swing of any party, the negative swings for labor and the Liberals show people turned away from those parties.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/qld-election-2017/results/

I doubt the preferences from Liberals helped, One Nation voters would have numbered their preferences.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 39532	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #2 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:24pm Was he elected because of his gun views or despite his gun views? Baron, you must be in seventh heaven, at least someone who could well support your ideas on liberalising gun ownership. What a shame, he's only a single state MP...
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Reply #3 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

Was he elected because of his gun views or despite his gun views?

One Nation are one of the few political parties that don't vilify licensed firearm owners because of one nutjob.

Pauline nailed it in 1997-
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Mr Speaker,

Australians have always had reasonable access to firearms, and law abiding citizens have always had an understandable expectation that individual ownership would continue as indeed would the facility for them to pursue their sporting pastime.

The uniform gun laws were ill conceived and rushed through without thought or consultation. Any proposed need has no basis in fact and is an affront to anyone who is even slightly informed of the facts and figures.

Dr Adam Graycar, from the Australian Institute of Criminology, has stated that banning semi-automatic firearms will do nothing to prevent the majority of Australia's gun deaths.

While I would certainly not advocate illegitimate ownership of such firearms, we cannot escape the fact that even just in the case of centre fire semi-automatic rifles, the majority of which are military style, there are in excess of a million such firearms in Australia and yet this style accounts for less than 2% of Australian firearm deaths.

Despite the free access to millions of firearms in Australia, the available data shows the number of murders committed with firearms since 1979 has been in a steady downward trend despite the rise in murders generally over the same period.

It should also be acknowledged that this period of general decline covered the peak years of importation for the so called military style semi-automatic firearms.

Considering the current removal of firearms from private ownership was largely targeted at centre fire semi-automatics, and less than 2%, or 10 firearms related deaths a year are attributable to this style of firearm, is the 500 million dollar buy back coupled with the unaccountable costs, justifiable in the context of the variety of weapons used to commit murder and the many causes of accidental deaths?

There was no Gun Debate as such, there was no consultation or concern for the facts, merely misinformation shoved down the throats of an understandably emotional public.

Mr Speaker,
I stand by my belief that,
Australians have the right to defend themselves and their families in their own homes.
Shooting is a legitimate sport and pastime and participants should be treated accordingly.
Disarming law abiding Australians is not in the national interest and will do nothing to reduce crime.

Be assured, the firearm owners of Australia are tired of unwarranted and unjustified interference, they are tired of being used as political scapegoats and the victims of United Nations treaties.

http://gwb.com.au/onenation/speeches/sept97b.html

The facts and figures back up what Pauline said in 1997 Roll Eyes

- http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/productsbytitle/9C85BD1298C075EACA2568A9...

Bob Katter is pro gun as well how many were elected from his party? Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 39532	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #4 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...
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Reply #5 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

Where do you get this 2% reduction brian perhaps you should learn some statistics.

The firearm homicide rate in 1980 was 0.8 per 100K it declined to 0.3 per 100K by 1995.

The Military style semi autos were used in 1.3 % of all firearm deaths from 1980-1995, last time I checked 1.3% is less than 2%.
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10304 Gender:	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #6 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:53pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:24pm: What a shame, he's only a single state MP.. With preferences, One Nation won more than 1/4 of the popular vote Statewide
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Reply #7 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 5:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

Nobody - other than you - said 2% reduction in fire arm deaths was "nothing" Bwian. tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

because the 'nothing' relates to "disarming the law abiding population" - it does nothing to reduce firearm deaths, whereas the 2% reduction was DESPITE the free access to millions of firearms.

SO what is your up to date statistical answer to his question, Bwian, considered PROPERLY:

Despite the free access to millions of firearms in Australia, the available data shows the number of murders committed with firearms since 1979 has been in a steady downward trend despite the rise in murders generally over the same period.
...
Considering the current removal of firearms from private ownership was largely targeted at centre fire semi-automatics, and less than 2%, or 10 firearms related deaths a year are attributable to this style of firearm, is the 500 million dollar buy back coupled with the unaccountable costs, justifiable in the context of the variety of weapons used to commit murder and the many causes of accidental deaths?
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Disarming law abiding Australians is not in the national interest and will do nothing to reduce crime.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 39532	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #8 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40523 Gender:	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #9 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm: So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.
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Reply #10 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

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Reply #13 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 6:45pm

Justsayno wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:03pm:
He was a quiet kid who thought about matters much more than most kids would, at any age.

You have stated in the past you only had two daughters!

how do you explain that BS?

Do you have a problem with what you have previously stated BS?

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Reply #14 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 7:52pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

Where do I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Where do I do anything other than talk about the ABS's statistics? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Reply #15 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

Where do I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Where do I do anything other than talk about the ABS's statistics? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

You misquote and misrepresent her.

Stop lying and being dishonest. It's all there. Scroll down.

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Reply #16 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:47pm

wannamakeacommentBrianrosS Roll Eyes

Justsayno wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:03pm:
He was a quiet kid who thought about matters much more than most kids would, at any age.

You have stated in the past you only had two daughters!

how do you explain that BS?

Do you have a problem with what you have previously stated BS?

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Reply #17 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 9:49pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

Where do I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Where do I do anything other than talk about the ABS's statistics? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

You misquote and misrepresent her.

Stop lying and being dishonest. It's all there. Scroll down.

Really? Where? Provide a quote where I have done that in this thread, Soren. I'd be interested to see what you've got a tizzy about. Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Nov 30^th, 2017 at 8:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

Where do I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Where do I do anything other than talk about the ABS's statistics? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

You misquote and misrepresent her.

Stop lying and being dishonest. It's all there. Scroll down.

Really? Where? Provide a quote where I have done that in this thread, Soren. I'd be interested to see what you've got a tizzy about. Roll Eyes

HAVE a bloody look, thicko. I have given you the link. We know you are daft. But don't ask for what I have given you already, ya thick, pretentious, incomprehending pussy-hat.

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Reply #20 - Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

So, the graph provided by the ABS is wrong, then?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/54hibp.png

No - you are wrong and you just misrepresented what Hanson said and which was quoted at length.

Where am I wrong? Where did I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Stop erecting a strawman argument. It's silly. Roll Eyes

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

Where do I mention Pauline Hanson, Soren? Where do I do anything other than talk about the ABS's statistics? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

You misquote and misrepresent her.

Stop lying and being dishonest. It's all there. Scroll down.

Really? Where? Provide a quote where I have done that in this thread, Soren. I'd be interested to see what you've got a tizzy about. Roll Eyes

HAVE a bloody look, thicko. I have given you the link. We know you are daft. But don't ask for what I have given you already, ya thick, pretentious, incomprehending pussy-hat.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Your link does not point to a post by me. I have asked you, quite nicely, to provide a reference to where I have mentioned Pauline Hanson in a post by me, in this thread. Tsk, tsk, you appear to be unable to provide one. Could it be because there isn't one, Soren? Could it be that you are manufacturing your outrage yourself? Roll Eyes

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Reply #21 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 5:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

HAVE a bloody look, thicko. I have given you the link. We know you are daft. But don't ask for what I have given you already, ya thick, pretentious, incomprehending pussy-hat.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Your link does not point to a post by me. I have asked you, quite nicely, to provide a reference to where I have mentioned Pauline Hanson in a post by me, in this thread. Tsk, tsk, you appear to be unable to provide one. Could it be because there isn't one, Soren? Could it be that you are manufacturing your outrage yourself? Roll Eyes

You quoted her and then misrepresented what you quoted, you spineless, dishonest old bint.

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Reply #22 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 5:50pm

Frank wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 5:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

HAVE a bloody look, thicko. I have given you the link. We know you are daft. But don't ask for what I have given you already, ya thick, pretentious, incomprehending pussy-hat.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Your link does not point to a post by me. I have asked you, quite nicely, to provide a reference to where I have mentioned Pauline Hanson in a post by me, in this thread. Tsk, tsk, you appear to be unable to provide one. Could it be because there isn't one, Soren? Could it be that you are manufacturing your outrage yourself? Roll Eyes

You quoted her and then misrepresented what you quoted, you spineless, dishonest old bint.

Prove I have quoted her, in this thread, Soren. Roll Eyes

Otherwise, you're just bullshitting, as usual. Tsk, tsk, wasting our time, again, hey? Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 6:49pm

Frank wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 5:58pm:

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511826486/4#4

I can smell the cat piss on you, Bwian.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Let me quote that post, shall I, Soren?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

I fail to see any reference there or in any of my other posts in this thread to anything that Pauline Hanson claimed. You have failed to produce any evidence - real evidence - that I have quoted Pauline Hanson at all. Tsk, tsk, bullshiting as I said. Give it up, Soren, you're just wasting our time, again... Roll Eyes

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Reply #25 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 7:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Let me quote that post, shall I

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

What is this 2% reduction bwian?

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I can see why nobody bothers with your crappy forum. Roll Eyes

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Reply #26 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Let me quote that post, shall I

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

What is this 2% reduction bwian?

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Here, Baron. Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 1:04pm

Lying won't get you anywhere, Bwian.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

Was he elected because of his gun views or despite his gun views?

One Nation are one of the few political parties that don't vilify licensed firearm owners because of one nutjob.

Pauline nailed it in 1997-
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Mr Speaker,

Australians have always had reasonable access to firearms, and law abiding citizens have always had an understandable expectation that individual ownership would continue as indeed would the facility for them to pursue their sporting pastime.

The uniform gun laws were ill conceived and rushed through without thought or consultation. Any proposed need has no basis in fact and is an affront to anyone who is even slightly informed of the facts and figures.

Dr Adam Graycar, from the Australian Institute of Criminology, has stated that banning semi-automatic firearms will do nothing to prevent the majority of Australia's gun deaths.

While I would certainly not advocate illegitimate ownership of such firearms, we cannot escape the fact that even just in the case of centre fire semi-automatic rifles, the majority of which are military style, there are in excess of a million such firearms in Australia and yet this style accounts for less than 2% of Australian firearm deaths.

Despite the free access to millions of firearms in Australia, the available data shows the number of murders committed with firearms since 1979 has been in a steady downward trend despite the rise in murders generally over the same period.

It should also be acknowledged that this period of general decline covered the peak years of importation for the so called military style semi-automatic firearms.

Considering the current removal of firearms from private ownership was largely targeted at centre fire semi-automatics, and less than 2%, or 10 firearms related deaths a year are attributable to this style of firearm, is the 500 million dollar buy back coupled with the unaccountable costs, justifiable in the context of the variety of weapons used to commit murder and the many causes of accidental deaths?

There was no Gun Debate as such, there was no consultation or concern for the facts, merely misinformation shoved down the throats of an understandably emotional public.

Mr Speaker,
I stand by my belief that,
Australians have the right to defend themselves and their families in their own homes.
Shooting is a legitimate sport and pastime and participants should be treated accordingly.
Disarming law abiding Australians is not in the national interest and will do nothing to reduce crime.

Be assured, the firearm owners of Australia are tired of unwarranted and unjustified interference, they are tired of being used as political scapegoats and the victims of United Nations treaties.

http://gwb.com.au/onenation/speeches/sept97b.html

The facts and figures back up what Pauline said in 1997 Roll Eyes

- http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/productsbytitle/9C85BD1298C075EACA2568A9...

Bob Katter is pro gun as well how many were elected from his party? Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

There is absolutely no mention in the ABS link of 2% reduction "doing nothing to reduce crime', it is ONLY in the Hanson quote to which you evidently responded, you lying stupid little squirmer.

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I fail to see any reference there or in any of my other posts in this thread to anything that Pauline Hanson claimed. You have failed to produce any evidence - real evidence - that I have quoted Pauline Hanson at all. Tsk, tsk, bullshiting as I said. Give it up, Soren, you're just wasting our time, again... Roll Eyes

You stupid liar.

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Reply #29 - Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 2:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Let me quote that post, shall I

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

A ~2% reduction between 1980 and 1995 is not "nothing", Baron. Tsk, tsk. Appears you need to learn some statistics... Roll Eyes

What a shame you don't have more recent statistics...

What is this 2% reduction bwian?

Roll Eyes

Here, Baron. Roll Eyes

What units does that graph use bwian?

That graph is rate per 100K, in 1980 our firearm homicide rate was 0.8 per 100K it declined to 0.3 per 100K by 1995, would that be over a 60% reduction in firearm homicides from 1980-1995?

Firearm accidents declined from 0.4 per 100K to 0.2 per 100K from 1980-1995, what percentage is that bwian? Roll Eyes

Firearm suicides declined from 3.7 per 100K in 1980 to 2.1 per 100K in 1995, what percentage is that bwian? Roll Eyes

The graph you posted shows males and not females are the biggest victims with firearm homicides which debunks the bullshit women are at great danger from gun owners.

Do you need to look at the data again bwian? Roll Eyes

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/productsbytitle/9C85BD1298C075EACA2568A9...

So where did you get that 2% bwian? can we say your son inherited his autism from his father. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 39532	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #31 - Dec 4^th, 2017 at 4:28pm Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 5:28pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 2:36pm: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk, You are caught out again, you fool. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk,
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: One Nation win QLD Seat 💺 Reply #32 - Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:20am So they maintain their status quo then. Better than going backwards and considering that only sat in 61 seats and averages about 20% of the vote they are on the rise. All they need do is lose some unwarranted baggage that people like Bwian keep regurgitating and sort out some preference deals.
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