ZERO

Weren't they predicting 8 seats ?

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:


No idea , what happened mate , 8 seats 

Pretty sure it does bother you after your prediction of lots of seats to Phoney , so far zero

The front runners were never the ones to win the Melbourne Cup.

Its time wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:


I'd rather they mix it up than all labor. Give the libs the crappy places like SA, territory and tassie and make sure labor gets federal

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:



Get bent.

Long time since we had Liberals here.

John, i hate to be the one to break it to you ... but you live in Queensland dude. The rest of us try to pretend you don't exist.

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 10:05pm:



no you don't ...



the rest of you choose to spend your hard earned, and short lived, holidays here. 

That is big....  holidays or getting it over and done with early?

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:



900 000 hotel beds here, with an average 70 - 80% occupancy says you do

QLD is a great spot to visit

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:


I'm going to bet that we get more interstate tourists than international

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 11:17pm:


Yeah get back to me when people come to see where you hid the bodies. We've got that totally over you.

And still not apologising for Steve Irwin. So hard are you not apologising for him that you edited all reference to it when quoting me.

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 11:21pm:



see, if they had more opportunity to travel to Qld and relax, there'd be less mass murderers in SA

Where's old hammer and juLiar 

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 11:30pm:



yeah , you'd rather kill each other in freezing weather than spend a week relaxing on a beach in warm weather

... but the killing each other bit is not negotiable.

Oh it doesn't get that cold, you big girl's blouse. But it does get too hot.

The Adelaide Hills are one of the nations treasures.

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 11:43pm:



Snow even ... in places.

That's not too cold for you is it precious? A bit of frost? It's lovely! It's not like we need special clothes or anything.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:40am:


One vote won't get you a seat mate

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:40am:


I feel embarrassed for you.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:29am:


You should feel embarrassed for yourself...

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

link

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:



preferences  control the verdict....its total rubbish...its time we grew up and had first past the post.....Katter get two seats....

and if it goes as predicted  he will have a share of the POWER.. what a joke.

Weren't they supposed to win 8:seats or something 

Pick your bottom lips up rtards , they're predicted to win one maybe two , at present count it's still

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:11am:




do not agree..... if it comes down to those with the most votes.....people might take more care with their vote..

as it is  no one knows   sometimes for weeks   what good their voting did????....with out system  any tom dick or harry can jump on the bus.....get 1000 votes... never get a seat yet impacts  on who get the golden chalice ... no chance harry should never be allowed to run in the first place....... we have more fickle stoopid  crap things to sift through, than any other country...

if we had 50 million voters I could understand it...

but we dont  in the mean time...every bloody govt State and Fed   is forced to make DEALS>.with minorities...who have an axe to grind... otherwise they would be with one of the majors.

I bet its leftwhinger... he has clout up there....

hes the chief counter.FIXED!

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 9:42am:



seriously   I dont see it that way at all....

I see people getting a seat with someone 3rd 4th even 5th choice...of person they would vote for meaning its someone they WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR...

come on since when do we have any choices in who runs for these jobs???.

we dont

  they are mostly hand picked by  means we are not told about..

when did you get asked if you wanted Mr or Mrs so and so to run in your electorate??...

you are given a list of names.. told to list them in order ..you then hand them over where more faceless people count them...not once not twice but over and over...until someone reaches a magic number..and that person is declared the winner....how they got there no one truly knows....

we are like sheep   and mostly we do whats easiest..


you may well be on top of what you are voting for  and well done to you....but so many judging by what we read here... are more interested in who they put last....

thats all that matters to them  

between 1st and last   doesnt come into it...yet its those votes that gets someone over the line..

no wonder it can take weeks... and you claim thats fair..

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:11am:

LOL
If you want real democracy it should go back to Optional preferential voting.
Cods is right to say your vote may end up with someone you would not vote for.
There might only be 1 Candidate or party you want to vote for, then you should be allowed to do that.
The ALP changed it so in most seats  only 1 of the majors will be in.
Independents and small parties must win over 50% of the primary vote.

In the past Hanson has won the Primary vote but lost due to preferences.  The majors can control the vote by both putting these sorts of parties and people last in a mandatory preference system.

I hear dopes saying ON gave ALP seats on preferences...  ON ran with no preferences allowing supporters to choose their own preferences.  Most people already know this and HTVs are simply not required except for sheeple. 

Pauline Hanson and One Nation have had a miserable night. But the Queensland election wasn't much better for Malcolm Turnbull or the federal coalition.

One Nation had expected to pick up a number of seats and at least hold the balance of power in the state parliament, thus stamping its resurgence as a political force in Australia.

Federal politicians had been watching the Queensland election to see whether it was the beginning or the end for the party.

At the end of counting on Saturday night, One Nation was yet to win a seat and had lost its two biggest names - state leader and LNP defector Steve Dickson and former senator Malcolm Roberts.

It could be hard for them to rebuild again, although Senator Hanson was putting on a brave face.

"I think we will win some seats, there's no doubt about that," she said.

Federal MPs from Labor and the coalition declared it a disastrous result for One Nation.

The biggest headache for the prime minister from Saturday's election has not been the issue of One Nation, but the failure of the Liberal National Party to cut through and reverse its fortunes in Queensland, especially in the key regional seats.

abinet minister Matt Canavan, a Queensland National, said he was not surprised by the results, especially in the regions.

"There is a lot of anxiety. There is a level of frustration that things are not happening," he told the ABC.

Uncertain results in regional seats had prevented a clear outcome from Saturday's election.

"You get this sort of backlash against a government in regional Queensland as you have seen today when they don't think they are being listened to," Senator Canavan said.

A solid showing on Saturday could have given One Nation a foot in the door for the next federal election in seats such as Herbert, Dawson, Wright, Flynn, Hinkler and Blair, as well as the Senate.

There are benefits in a weakened One Nation for Malcolm Turnbull, as he seeks to restore his own stocks. It will give the coalition a better chance of bolstering its numbers in the Senate.

And it will raise hopes LNP members in regional seats will be able to see off future challenges from the minor party.

However, one of those MPs, Dawson's George Christensen, isn't convinced. He posted on social media a map of a segregated Queensland.

"There are clearly two Queenslands. The case for a separate North Queensland state is strong after tonight."


http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/11/26/pauline-hansons-miserable-night

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:


I'm afraid it's all true John. Poor Pauline, it seems, is simply not validated by the Australian people.

Not even in Queensland .. 

One Nation is still the talk of the town though

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:19pm:



You mean joke? Cautionary tale?

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:26pm:


They should be able to assert their influence ... With no seats

mothra wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:28pm:
If the major parties didn't fail the Australian people over and over again you wouldn't have PHON. It's just a fact. Maybe if you lefties asked the Australian people if they wanted full blown multiculturalism there wouldn't be a Pauline Hanson.

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They would vote for them if there were fewer candidates.

For the most part the leader on first preferences wins the seat. it only ever goes to someone else if more than 50% of voters prefer a different candidate. That's pretty much the definition of democracy. The number of preferences makes no difference to this logic. Preferential voting ensures that it comes down to the will of the majority.

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You can run yourself if you want. Or encourage someone else to. Laziness is not the same as lack of choice.

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You could also join a party and take aprt in the preselection process.

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Voting was still compulsory, even under OPV. OPV was a combination of optional and compulsory voting, only supported by those who do not understand the concept of runoff elections.

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This is a common misunderstanding. It only ever ends up with your first preference out of candidates who are in the race. It is not possible for preferential voting to work against your interests. This is no different from a person complaining that they would not vote for any of the candidates on the ballot. You can only ever choose from the candidates in the race.

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:


Seems the people are quite happy with multiculturalism , if they weren't , phon would've won some seats , as it currently stands they have won precisely zero 

Its time wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
What is happening in Queensland is to do with the mining industry amongst other things. It's the same thing that is happening in the US. It's the urbanites vs the regional working class. Pauline doesn't fit into this battle. One thing you haven't realised yet is she is keeping the 2 big parties honest because if the bugger up she gets their votes.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:



depends on where they win the votes dopey.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:19pm:



yeah ... all the talk is how poorly they performed. 

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:45pm:


What party doesn't?

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:


hang on, aren't you one of the ones who claims the big parties chase the populist vote


you can't have it both ways

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:


The way the mainstream dinki di Aussie community votes is almost a foregone conclusion, going back decades of federal elections. They are almost a static voting bloc that swings slightly to the Left or Right depending on the economic situation.

With the Anglo-Celtic vote being highly predictable, the politicians are left with the task of serenading the 'Ethnic Communities' for their vote. It's the minority votes that push parties across the line to victory.

Needless to say Turnbull made the idiotic mistake of soliciting for the Queer Vote while forgetting that a large percentage of ethnics aren't too enamored with the idea of giving their blessing to men whose sex lives revolve around sphincter muscles and lower bowel systems.

Turnbull will pay heavily for this blooper at the ballot box.

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:


But you people never explain why.

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

And still lost to Trump?

It was zero, wasn't it?

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:51pm:



was there? I don't remember that so have no idea what he was on about.

Wonder if the greens will get more seats 😂

John Smith wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:


The libs are toxic , hence why they're going to be pummeled to oblivion come fed election

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:


Once her senate's term is up she's finished , there is nothing to distinguish her from the right of libtards , absolutely nothing