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Reply #15 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 8:50am
 
just another nutter vying for attention ... and you're all giving it to her by discussing it. Ignore her and she'll go away
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #16 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 9:00am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 8:50am:
just another nutter vying for attention ... and you're all giving it to her by discussing it. Ignore her and she'll go away



WHO  ? Roll Eyes   WILL GO AWAY
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Reply #17 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 9:59am
 
bwood1946 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 9:00am:
John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 8:50am:
just another nutter vying for attention ... and you're all giving it to her by discussing it. Ignore her and she'll go away



WHO  ? Roll Eyes   WILL GO AWAY


the woman who made the complaint about sleeping beauty
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #18 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:01am
 
I have missed out on the significant imagery of scoot's perception all my life.
I see that now.
All I ever saw was a beautiful princess and a handsome prince and I never caught the penetration bit.
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Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.
 
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Reply #19 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:28am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:01am:
I have missed out on the significant imagery of scoot's perception all my life.
I see that now.
All I ever saw was a beautiful princess and a handsome prince and I never caught the penetration bit.


check out a psychoanalysis of pinocchio, peter pan, beauty and the beast and the little mermaid Wink.

beauty and the beast is THE tale of how women want their men.
they want a wild man they can tame.
they dont want a harmless man (or as freud would call him, a castrated man).
the harmless man who sucks up to women (perhaps as greg sucks up to mothra...though they may be one and the same) is , in effect , castrating himself.  women put harmless men in the friendzone and then sleep with the beasts ( in the hope of taming them)  Wink
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Reply #20 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:46am
 
From 1807 onward, the brothers added to the collection. Jacob established the framework, maintained through many iterations; from 1815 until his death, Wilhelm assumed sole responsibility for editing and rewriting the tales. He made the tales stylistically similar, added dialogue, removed pieces "that might detract from a rustic tone", improved the plots, and incorporated psychological motifs.[22] Ronald Murphy writes in The Owl, the Raven and the Dove that the brothers—and in particular Wilhelm—also added religious and spiritual motifs to the tales. He believes that Wilhelm "gleaned" bits from old Germanic faiths, Norse mythology, Roman and Greek mythology, and biblical stories that he reshaped.[18]

Some changes were made in light of unfavorable reviews, particularly from those who objected that not all the tales were suitable for children because of scenes of violence and sexuality.[25] He worked to modify plots for many stories; for example, "Rapunzel" in the first edition of Kinder- und Hausmärchen clearly shows a sexual relationship between the prince and the girl in the tower, which he edited out in subsequent editions.[24] Tatar writes that morals were added (in the second edition, a king's regret was added to the scene in which his wife is to be burned at the stake) and often the characters in the tale were amended to appear more German: "every fairy (Fee), prince (Prinz) and princess (Prinzessin)—all words of French origin—was transformed into a more Teutonic-sounding enchantress (Zauberin) or wise woman (weise Frau), king's son (Königssohn), king's daughter (Königstochter)."[26]

The Grimms' legacy contains legends, novellas, and folk stories, the vast majority of which were not intended as children's tales. Von Armin was deeply concerned about the content of some of the tales, such as those which showed children being eaten, and suggested that they be removed. Instead, the brothers added an introduction with cautionary advice that parents steer children toward age-appropriate stories. Despite von Armin's unease, none of the tales were eliminated from the collection, in the brothers' belief that all the tales were of value and reflected inherent cultural qualities. Furthermore, the stories were didactic in nature at a time when discipline relied on fear, according to scholar Linda Dégh, who explains that tales such as "Little Red Riding Hood" and "Hansel and Gretel" were written to be "warning tales" for children.[27]

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Reply #21 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:57am
 
A drugged women, no one else around, and a man's word to say he 'only kissed her'.

Good on for removing the book.

Now to make the bible R21
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Reply #22 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:04am
 
____ wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:57am:
A drugged women, no one else around, and a man's word to say he 'only kissed her'.

Good on for removing the book.

Now to make the bible R21

It didn't get removed. Some snowflake just had a silly whinge.
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Nom de Plume wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:46am:
From 1807 onward, the brothers added to the collection. Jacob established the framework, maintained through many iterations; from 1815 until his death, Wilhelm assumed sole responsibility for editing and rewriting the tales. He made the tales stylistically similar, added dialogue, removed pieces "that might detract from a rustic tone", improved the plots, and incorporated psychological motifs.[22] Ronald Murphy writes in The Owl, the Raven and the Dove that the brothers—and in particular Wilhelm—also added religious and spiritual motifs to the tales. He believes that Wilhelm "gleaned" bits from old Germanic faiths, Norse mythology, Roman and Greek mythology, and biblical stories that he reshaped.[18]

Some changes were made in light of unfavorable reviews, particularly from those who objected that not all the tales were suitable for children because of scenes of violence and sexuality.[25] He worked to modify plots for many stories; for example, "Rapunzel" in the first edition of Kinder- und Hausmärchen clearly shows a sexual relationship between the prince and the girl in the tower, which he edited out in subsequent editions.[24] Tatar writes that morals were added (in the second edition, a king's regret was added to the scene in which his wife is to be burned at the stake) and often the characters in the tale were amended to appear more German: "every fairy (Fee), prince (Prinz) and princess (Prinzessin)—all words of French origin—was transformed into a more Teutonic-sounding enchantress (Zauberin) or wise woman (weise Frau), king's son (Königssohn), king's daughter (Königstochter)."[26]

The Grimms' legacy contains legends, novellas, and folk stories, the vast majority of which were not intended as children's tales. Von Armin was deeply concerned about the content of some of the tales, such as those which showed children being eaten, and suggested that they be removed. Instead, the brothers added an introduction with cautionary advice that parents steer children toward age-appropriate stories. Despite von Armin's unease, none of the tales were eliminated from the collection, in the brothers' belief that all the tales were of value and reflected inherent cultural qualities. Furthermore, the stories were didactic in nature at a time when discipline relied on fear, according to scholar Linda Dégh, who explains that tales such as "Little Red Riding Hood" and "Hansel and Gretel" were written to be "warning tales" for children.[27]

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hansel and gretel is a ripper.

come into my house made of gingerbread.

that is EXACTLY the message that big government gives to the voters.  (especially socialist governments).

come and eat sugar (welfare) in our house (safety and security). 

and then the kids go into a durr state and the friendly grandma turns into a wolf and destroys them

this is what the UN and every politician who doesnt want to "drain the swamp" has in mind for you. Suck you in and then eat you.

run a mile from that person
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Reply #24 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:54am
 
____ wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:57am:
A drugged women, no one else around, and a man's word to say he 'only kissed her'.

Good on for removing the book.

Now to make the bible R21


Now all we need is a cautionary tale of the snowflake and the sunbeam to show how PC and ridiculous this crap is. Can you show how this story has harmed anyone?

Once upon a time there was a snowflake who was sure everything was out to melt it but could not prove it's beliefs so it searched and searched for evidence to show other snowflakes the dangers but the evidence always escaped it. One day it had an epiphany, "I know how to bring this dreadful conspiracy into the light! I shall capture a sunbeam to shine a light onto this plot!" So ended the snowflake.

Don't look up snowflake.
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Reply #25 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:33pm
 
AiA wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 8:22am:
cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 8:13am:
AiA wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 8:04am:
cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 7:58am:
AiA wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 7:53am:
Fairy Tales are the mythology of Europe and full of deep psychological significance like Aqua says.



I guess they will say the same thing about Stven King in another 50 years..

BURN THE BOOKs. Angry Angry


No, they won't say that about Steven King, cods. Fairy Tales go back to pre-history. No one knows how old they are. 20,000 years. 40,000 years. Fairy Tales are not fiction, they are mythology.


BASED ON....  this was written by the grimms bros... 


The Grimms Bros. collected and published folklore - they didn't write it.


Well, actually yes, and no.  The Grimms collected folklore and they rewrote it, to make it more palatable, usually for the "modern" (read 17th-18th century) palate.   What they collected tended to be a great deal well, excuse the pun, grimmer than what appeared in the collected stories.   There was a lot more blood, a great deal more mayhem and so on.   Even what they published appears to be not suitable for modern eyes/ears, which is why Walt Disney again, rewrote and generally jollified the original Grimm's tales.  Tastes change, that is a fact of life.   What was suitable in the 12th century is not considered suitable today.   Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:40pm
 
Looking at the positive side to Sleeping beauty.

It teaches children to not accept asbestos treated apples from Julie bishop or to hang around with 7 creepy little men and a randy prince.
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Reply #27 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:53pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:54am:
____ wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:57am:
A drugged women, no one else around, and a man's word to say he 'only kissed her'.

Good on for removing the book.

Now to make the bible R21


Now all we need is a cautionary tale of the snowflake and the sunbeam to show how PC and ridiculous this crap is. Can you show how this story has harmed anyone?

Once upon a time there was a snowflake who was sure everything was out to melt it but could not prove it's beliefs so it searched and searched for evidence to show other snowflakes the dangers but the evidence always escaped it. One day it had an epiphany, "I know how to bring this dreadful conspiracy into the light! I shall capture a sunbeam to shine a light onto this plot!" So ended the snowflake.

Don't look up snowflake.




Whenever i tell my kids the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, the boy always gets eaten in the end.
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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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Reply #28 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 4:44pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
Looking at the positive side to Sleeping beauty.

It teaches children to not accept asbestos treated apples from Julie bishop or to hang around with 7 creepy little men and a randy prince.



wow!..... what a sick mind you have grandad

mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 2:53pm:
Whenever i tell my kids the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, the boy always gets eaten in the end




wow! what a sick mind you have grandma.





anyone see the irony there?

Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #29 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 4:53pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:06am:
And this from the north of England, the home of down-to-earthness.


Is not the north of England the home of the stupid people? Never heard of them being brainiacs.
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