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Reply #60 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:11pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:00pm:

And still, on a thread intended to discuss the fact that it has passed into law that animals don;t feel pain or feel emotions, the trolls only want to talk about animals being killed.

It's not even a little bit how my mind works.

You are a troubling bunch.

so tell us how your mind works...

as you seem to be almost alone with it!

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Reply #61 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:12pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:59pm:

cods wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 4:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 3:49pm:

I wonder if Moths lectures Aboriginals on animal cruelty or do they get a pass on the soft bigotry of lower expectations?

I never here them complain about HALAL meat in THIS COUNTRY....talk about double standards.,

do cows feel pain.. I think they do thats why we decent people stun them first not after they have tried to kill them with a knife.

Animals are stunned in this country before they are killed halal.

Don't you ever tire of being wrong?

Oh, and stunning is in itself cruel. Always amazes me how people like you think our meat comes from animals who walk willingly and peacefully to slaughter.

No idea at all.

NO THEY ARE NOT..

some maybe but not all....

you are the one with n o idea at all..

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #62 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:13pm Gordon wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:06pm: Sorry for the OT post but I'm going to a place on Saturday that does a $250 Wagyu steak. Should I order that or the lobster or both? bloody beans on toast gordy unless you want a voodoo doll in your name.
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Reply #63 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:18pm

The vast majority of halal slaughter in Australia (including at export abattoirs) complies with standard slaughter practice where all animals are stunned prior to slaughter. The only difference with halal slaughter is that a reversible stunning method is used, while conventional humane slaughter may use an irreversible stunning method.

The time to regain consciousness following a reversible stun may vary depending on the intensity of the stun. At Australian abattoirs, the aim is to ensure that reversible stunning is done in a way that the depth of unconsciousness is sufficient to allow for the animal to bleed out and die before there is a chance of regaining consciousness. Although reversible stunning is far better from an animal welfare perspective than no stunning at all, irreversible stunning is more effective in inducing unconsciousness than reversible stunning and is therefore the preferred method.

in other words they are stunned after their throats are cut and refuse to die on the spot.. Angry

I hope your not to bloody comfortable on that high horse you put yourself on. Angry

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #64 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:18pm As long as the lobsters Die-with-Dignity during assisted suicide, I don't mind.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20228 Gordon Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #65 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:18pm: As long as the lobsters Die-with-Dignity during assisted suicide, I don't mind. Lots of Chinese kitchen hands. Their care factor of lobster suffrage would be pretty low. I'm going with a Chinese client so maybe I'll give him a lecture while I'm at it.
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Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion"
Reply #66 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:29pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:00pm:

And still, on a thread intended to discuss the fact that it has passed into law that animals don;t feel pain or feel emotions, the trolls only want to talk about animals being killed.

It's not even a little bit how my mind works.

You are a troubling bunch.

Has FD told you whether prawns feel pain yet, Mothra?

I'm getting increasingly curious.

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Reply #67 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:30pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:29pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:00pm:

And still, on a thread intended to discuss the fact that it has passed into law that animals don;t feel pain or feel emotions, the trolls only want to talk about animals being killed.

It's not even a little bit how my mind works.

You are a troubling bunch.

Has FD told you whether prawns feel pain yet, Mothra?

I'm getting increasingly curious.

Will the stolen goats suffer after your mozlum mates 'liberate' them?

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Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion"
Reply #68 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 5:30pm

I take no pleasure it killing animals I really dont and I dislike it even more when people single out others as being a pervert to justice for the animal kingdom.....

what this wretched women expects us to do about another countries legislation is beyond me.. Angry

I do not believe for one moment either of you guys would tolerate any form of animal cruelty
so I wish you would stop that... Sad

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21731 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #69 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 6:22pm Try coming home from a week away, and see if your pet has an indifferent attitude to your return.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34507 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #70 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 7:46pm UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 6:22pm: Try coming home from a week away, and see if your pet has an indifferent attitude to your return. Exactly. Or even coming home from the shops. This ruling is utterly offensive, absolutely unscientific and highly stupid.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: "Animals can't feel pain or emotion" Reply #71 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:05pm It could be the British Upper Class want to bring back fox hunting but first have to remove laws that refer to foxes as sentient beings capable of emotional distress and physical pain.
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Reply #72 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:07pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:05pm:

It could be the British Upper Class want to bring back fox hunting but first have to remove laws that refer to foxes as sentient beings capable of emotional distress and physical pain.

I would say there are significant financial incentives in not ensuring animals are treated humanely.

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Reply #73 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:11pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:07pm:

I would say there are significant financial incentives in not ensuring animals are treated humanely.

We know that from the Live Exports trade. Money changes hands and people keep quiet instead of becoming whistle-blowers.

Given enough financial incentive and most people can be persuaded to be utter bastards.

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Reply #74 - Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:15pm

mothra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 7:46pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Try coming home from a week away, and see if your pet has an indifferent attitude to your return.

Exactly. Or even coming home from the shops.

This ruling is utterly offensive, absolutely unscientific and highly stupid.

Trees feel pain

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