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Next federal election, the winner, in their first term, must apologise to all refugees who fleeing from persecution sought assistance from Australia, and Australian then persecuted.

The next Prime Minister must apologise to all these people. Living or now dead.


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I'll come to your house uninvited.
Let myself in via the window.
Expect to be given $10 by you.
Tell you stories of why I left my house - because I didn't like the furniture and my 52 kids have eaten me out of home.
Hell, I brought 25 of them into your house to join me also.
So shut up you racist Australian #@$t and look after me!!!
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:15am
 
Villawood Detention Centre guys get free govt paid Private Health Care. They 'mostly' come in for operations on their 'rectums'. Nothing but dirty buggers.

...no wonder you support the Manus Mob too Mr PokePoo.
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Reply #3 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:32am
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:13am:
I'll come to your house uninvited.
Let myself in via the window.
Expect to be given $10 by you.
Tell you stories of why I left my house - because I didn't like the furniture and my 52 kids have eaten me out of home.
Hell, I brought 25 of them into your house to join me also.
So shut up you racist Australian #@$t and look after me!!!



If I had signed the convention on house break in then fair enough.

Which countries have agreed to the Refugee Convention?

There are 143 countries which have agreed to the obligations under both the Refugee Convention and its Protocol (known as ‘states parties’). There are also three countries (including the United States of America) which have agreed to the Protocol only, and two small countries that have agreed to the Convention only.

Australia was one of the first countries to become a state party to the Refugee Convention, on 22 January 1954. Australia became a party to the 1967 Protocol on 13 December 1973.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/getfacts/international/internationalsystem/the...


The Liberal party signed up Australia and then broke their word.

Australia must now apologise to these refugees for the Liberal Party's (lack of) behaviour.
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Jasin wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:13am:
I'll come to your house uninvited.
Let myself in via the window.
Expect to be given $10 by you.
Tell you stories of why I left my house - because I didn't like the furniture and my 52 kids have eaten me out of home.
Hell, I brought 25 of them into your house to join me also.
So shut up you racist Australian #@$t and look after me!!!



If I had signed the convention on house break in then fair enough.

Which countries have agreed to the Refugee Convention?

There are 143 countries which have agreed to the obligations under both the Refugee Convention and its Protocol (known as ‘states parties’). There are also three countries (including the United States of America) which have agreed to the Protocol only, and two small countries that have agreed to the Convention only.

Australia was one of the first countries to become a state party to the Refugee Convention, on 22 January 1954. Australia became a party to the 1967 Protocol on 13 December 1973.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/getfacts/international/internationalsystem/the...


The Liberal party signed up Australia and then broke their word.

Australia must now apologise to these refugees for the Liberal Party's (lack of) behaviour.


That word is where you cockup Mr Urinary Tract Infection.

They are not Refugees.
They are illegal immigrants.
There is a big difference.
Just like there is between Gay poo-pokers like you
And Celibate non-sexuals like me.
Refugee? Oh, you mean like Rwanda & Kosovo and Syria - yeah sure. Am proud our nation actually went in and 'grabbed' these people to safety.
As for the likes of what is on Manus Island - well GET F@#$%D!
They are illegal immigrants that 'paid' smugglers to illegally enter Australia. F@##$ng queue jumpers! God knows what else they are - but definitely not Refugee!

You probably hate Trump for mentioning to the Mexican President that he will be charged the cost of a Wall to stop the 'illegal immigration'?
I mean - how would you like it if I had 10 kids to two women, none of which I can afford to feed unless its via criminal activity and then I throw them over the fence into your yard for you to look after, school and feed. Hell, I even sent over the first wife too!

What - you totally support irresponsible 'over-population' by Redneck nations?
Only a Gay would support such - kind of makes them feel 'intellectual' and socially superior to have all these poor over-populating, financially dysfunctional Rednecks suffering all around.

I used to get pinned down by a Brit and a Yank who allowed an Aboriginal to bash into me because it not only justified their own innocence but fraudulently tried to convince me that I was to blame for the whole thing.

I'll never apologise. Never have in the face of such adversity and never will.
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Reply #5 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am
 
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen...and right now the tables have turned at long last   and when they finally unshackle the monster that ruled them they will I very much hope put their shoulders to the wheel and rebuild their country,

they should at least realise it is UP TO THEM..its their country  they have lived through the worst..

they never ran away and left it for the few at the top....

and good on them  ....

I trust the UN  or some such agency will get behind them.. as the last thing they need is another dictator...

I admire those who stay to back the country they want and not hand it over to dictators....

not those who run away  and expect to live off the backs of others...
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Reply #6 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:24am
 
ive always felt a bit disgusted by people who hold up posters and placards.

they are saying "we are virtuous and you are not".

thats the jist of it.

but thats coming from a place of very lower consciousness.
its low level narcisism and its a failure to acknowledge all the truths of emotional intelligence.

perhaps a poster saying

"we recognise that we are not perfect. we know the good people of australia are doing their best. we would like to come to australia with a spirit of contribution...etc, etc."

but this "me,me,me and my rough little story".
this i want to "take", i fell the need to "take".
give me, give me, give me....

that just sends all the wrong messages and those arent the sorts of personalities we want.

i'd be quite happy for the government to say


we are going to go to your country of origin and we are going to find an equivalent number of people who are

'smiling, grateful, contributing and not in taker mode" and they can come to australia.

you can come, when you show us you have learnt how the universe works (or should work). you can come when you stop the taking and start to become more awesome. and the first thing you need to do is prove that to us.
now why dont you go into the town of manus and clean up the streets, help the old and infirm, help the locals fill pot holes, help them dig wells, laugh and share a joke with them and show them and then show us that you are worthy of coming to our wonderful country.
we need more contributors, we have enough takers
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Reply #7 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:28am
 
Hundreds of thousands of Zimbabweans (shona & nbele) have crossed borders like illegal Mexicans into neighbouring Southern African nations, especially South Africa. Living in shantie, resorting to crime and being persecuted by other African Tribes who don't wish to carry the burden of Zimbabwean problems.

As for the monster Mugabe?
Well he wouldn't have appeared if the British didn't stuff up that country in the first place!

Mugabe & Britain - another example of two wrongs not making a right and there is plenty of that going around in this world in this day and age.
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Reply #8 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:27am
 
____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:07am:
Next federal election, the winner, in their first term, must apologise to all refugees who fleeing from persecution sought assistance from Australia, and Australian then persecuted.

The next Prime Minister must apologise to all these people. Living or now dead.




Why should the Australian Government (Liberal or Labor) apologise for choosing who to accept here?
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Reply #9 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am
 
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




yes, zimbabwe was run by the fine white farmers and everyone had food to eat and safety.
along come the marxist socialists with their ideas of equality and everything turns to mayhem in a decade.

socialism is such a toxic seed.
thank god for capitalists like Donald Trump to keep us proseprous and free
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




asylum in Sth Africa  right    thats almost like going to Nth Korea for asylum. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Britain  would have the white folks   like we have the white Sth African..

neither Sth Africa nor Zimbabwe have been successful  I wonder why?.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:27am:
____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:07am:
Next federal election, the winner, in their first term, must apologise to all refugees who fleeing from persecution sought assistance from Australia, and Australian then persecuted.

The next Prime Minister must apologise to all these people. Living or now dead.




Why should the Australian Government (Liberal or Labor) apologise for choosing who to accept here?



Non issue.

The issue is Australia persecuted people fleeing persecution. Australia will not even allow the 150 refugees out of persecution since NZ have said they will take them.

This is persecution for the sake of persecution.

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Reply #13 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:34am
 
We should never have signed the Convention.
We live in very different times, we should withdraw if they refuse to amend it.
Many asylum seekers are not genuine refugees and they use criminals and criminal means to get here.  That on its own should send a message to even the thickest luvvie.
They fail the character test and should be deported straight away.  End of story.
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Reply #14 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:37am
 
Most of them are single male economic refugees.
Seems like flat tard person interest in this.

He wants more blak kok in Australia.
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Jews fleeing Nazi Germany ... they too were economic refugees.

It's not economic to be dead.


The term 'Economic Refugee' is just created so to be able to pretend persecuting people fleeing persecution is ok.

It isn't.


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____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:44am:
Jews fleeing Nazi Germany ... they too were economic refugees.

It's not economic to be dead.


The term 'Economic Refugee' is just created so to be able to pretend persecuting people fleeing persecution is ok.

It isn't.


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A Paki driver is an economic refugee.
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Reply #17 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:49am
 
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




asylum in Sth Africa  right    thats almost like going to Nth Korea for asylum. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Britain  would have the white folks   like we have the white Sth African..

neither Sth Africa nor Zimbabwe have been successful  I wonder why?.



It's because blecks can't run anything, right Cods?
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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:49am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




asylum in Sth Africa  right    thats almost like going to Nth Korea for asylum. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Britain  would have the white folks   like we have the white Sth African..

neither Sth Africa nor Zimbabwe have been successful  I wonder why?.



It's because blecks can't run anything, right Cods?



You got that right porky! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Oh good for you Cods! Bwood agrees with you again.

You really do attract posters with class, don't you. Must be something about you.
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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:57am:
Oh good for you Cods! Bwood agrees with you again.

You really do attract posters with class, don't you. Must be something about you.


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Reply #21 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:02am
 
Once again - genuine refugees are not 'illegal immigrants' - they are refugee claimants, and are processed according to a set of rules.

The deviation - and the ONLY deviation - by the LNP was to process them offshore AND refuse them entry to this nation even if positively vetted, but ONLY if they attempted to arrive by boat.

That was against convention, against treaties signed, by intercepting them on the High Seas a crime was committed against the law of the sea, and the entire process was against humanity, and possibly a crime against humanity.

I'd be interested to see what Geoffrey Robertson had to say about it.
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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:49am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




asylum in Sth Africa  right    thats almost like going to Nth Korea for asylum. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Britain  would have the white folks   like we have the white Sth African..

neither Sth Africa nor Zimbabwe have been successful  I wonder why?.



It's because blecks can't run anything, right Cods?



its because the socialists who dont understand the dominance hierachy cant run anything.

all people are NOT equal.

some are awesome farmers.
i'm sure rhodesia had some awesome farmers and they were successful.

socialists think they want to help the poor , but really, they just hate the successful and when you get rid of the successful , society suffers.

its the same toxic seed .
its nothing to do with race.

it happened in white soveit russia in 1918, in asian north korea and mao's china and the killing fields of cambodia, in cuba and venezuala.

once you interefere with the hierachy of competance, you screw everything up.

and the facts are staring you right in the face.

when zimbabwe got rid of its most competant farmers , the whole system turned to mayhem.

the same would happen if the socialists in canberra got rid of all us awesome productive farmers and gave the land to a bunch of socialist intellectuals to run a commune (as some of goughs ministers thought would be a good idea).

they all ended up eating dirt for dinner.
google Jim Cairns who was goughs treasurer and see how he went when he went off to live in a commune.

you get to sit here and snipe away at society and the patriachy, because the patriachy keeps you safe and feeds you. a little gratitude wouldnt go astray  Wink
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Reply #23 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:03am
 
____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:07am:
Next federal election, the winner, in their first term, must apologise to all refugees who fleeing from persecution sought assistance from Australia, and Australian then persecuted.

The next Prime Minister must apologise to all these people. Living or now dead.




What a terrible thing for those refugees. Not one of them able to operate a tap in the town of Lorengau nor capable of operating a broom. Maybe a series of photos could assist them. The first would be the shape of a human > a tap > a hand turning on the tap > a drinking vessel to capture the water > a human drinking the water. To add to that confusion perhaps a series of photos showing how to purchase a bottle of water (Commonwealth agrees to pay Manus Island detainees $70m in class action settlement) at a cost of $1.50 per bottle.

We could send Ian Rintoooool up there to Manus Island with 30 brooms and an official approved short video showing how to use the brooms.

I think the refugee convention is silent on detainee those seeking refuge.
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Gordon wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:37am:
Most of them are single male economic refugees.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:57am:
Oh good for you Cods! Bwood agrees with you again.

You really do attract posters with class, don't you. Must be something about you.

and you attract Greg and Smith MB and aussie- you really shouldnt use the word class because as we know you dont know what the word means- let alone point fingers-
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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:49am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:11am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




asylum in Sth Africa  right    thats almost like going to Nth Korea for asylum. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Britain  would have the white folks   like we have the white Sth African..

neither Sth Africa nor Zimbabwe have been successful  I wonder why?.



It's because blecks can't run anything, right Cods?

I see no such thing in her post you have a terrible habit of putting words in pp mouths
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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:49am:
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:02am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:20am:
I am watching Zimbabwe at the moment   and yes they have suffered greatly for over 30 years of control by a nut case....did they run away and claim asylum elsewhere   not that I have seen......


"The number of Zimbabweans seeking asylum in South Africa has increased dramatically since Robert Mugabe's police assaulted the country's opposition leaders on 11 March, experts say."   2007

Refugees flood from Zimbabwe

Here are 10 facts about Zimbabwe refugees:

1. "It’s estimated that 3.4 million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population have fled their country as refugees. Most of them have gone to three countries — South Africa, Australia and Britain. Britain houses the majority with over 400,000."

"9,286 people from Zimbabwe have fled in 2016 and applied for asylum in other countries."

Refugees from Zimbabwe




asylum in Sth Africa  right    thats almost like going to Nth Korea for asylum. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Britain  would have the white folks   like we have the white Sth African..

neither Sth Africa nor Zimbabwe have been successful  I wonder why?.



It's because blecks can't run anything, right Cods?



You got that right porky! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Looks like the white activists have been handing out slogan signs??
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mothra wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:57am:
Oh good for you Cods! Bwood agrees with you again.

You really do attract posters with class, don't you. Must be something about you.

and you attract Greg and Smith MB and aussie-


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____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:22am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:27am:
____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:07am:
Next federal election, the winner, in their first term, must apologise to all refugees who fleeing from persecution sought assistance from Australia, and Australian then persecuted.

The next Prime Minister must apologise to all these people. Living or now dead.




Why should the Australian Government (Liberal or Labor) apologise for choosing who to accept here?



Non issue.

The issue is Australia persecuted people fleeing persecution. Australia will not even allow the 150 refugees out of persecution since NZ have said they will take them.

This is persecution for the sake of persecution.



They aren't persecuted. They just want a better lifestyle.
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Reply #31 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:18pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 8:22am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:27am:
____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:07am:
Next federal election, the winner, in their first term, must apologise to all refugees who fleeing from persecution sought assistance from Australia, and Australian then persecuted.

The next Prime Minister must apologise to all these people. Living or now dead.




Why should the Australian Government (Liberal or Labor) apologise for choosing who to accept here?



Non issue.

The issue is Australia persecuted people fleeing persecution. Australia will not even allow the 150 refugees out of persecution since NZ have said they will take them.

This is persecution for the sake of persecution.



They aren't persecuted. They just want a better lifestyle.


Here we go again - another case of conservatives not knowing the difference between asylum seekers and refugees.

The 150 that NZ want to take are refugees.

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You talking about those shonky Country Shoppers who paid up to 10K a head to get on the leaky boats and ended up in New Guinea?

Those sorry arses should be shipped back to where they came from and told to get in the queue

Enough from the bleeding hearts brigade Cool
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You talking about those shonky Country Shoppers who paid up to 10K a head to get on the leaky boats and ended up in New Guinea?

Those sorry arses should be shipped back to where they came from and told to get in the queue


a) nothing illegal about (or wrong with) country shopping.

b) a person's financial situation has nothing to do with refugee status.

c) these 150 have been processed, and deemed to be refugees.

d) there is no queue.
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Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives
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red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
smack em


Why?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:24pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:19pm:
You talking about those shonky Country Shoppers who paid up to 10K a head to get on the leaky boats and ended up in New Guinea?

Those sorry arses should be shipped back to where they came from and told to get in the queue


a) nothing illegal about (or wrong with) country shopping.


Actually, there is. According to the UNHCR's own rules, if you bypass or transit through a safe country where you could request asylum or refugee status, you automatically lose your right to make any such claim at another country.
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The United Nations can take a flying f...k at a rolling donut

The most corrupt organisation since the Nazi Party in Germany
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red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?

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red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
The United Nations can take a flying f...k at a rolling donut

The most corrupt organisation since the Nazi Party in Germany


With the CFMEU coming in a close second!
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?



Because they're taking places set aside for genuine refugees.
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They are not refugees they are cashed up Country Shoppers who tried to jump the queue in front of genuine refugees

This Manus Island con is such shite it has me reaching for the chum bucket...refugees my arse!!!!!

I don't give a shite about skin colour I do give a shite about major con being carried out. Notice that 95% of them are male adults what a con!
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?



Because they're taking places set aside for genuine refugees.


They are refugees.

All refugees are "genuine".

Until you learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees, you're always gonna look like a dill when discussing this subject.

Oh, and there's no queue either.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?



Because they're taking places set aside for genuine refugees.


They are refugees.

All refugees are "genuine".

Until you learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees, you're always gonna look like a dill when discussing this subject.

Oh, and there's no queue either.



Oh, there's a queue alright. Let's say our refugee intake is 15,000 people. Lets say there's 2,000 people who come by boat and are given refugee status. Now the intake is only 13,000 people. The other 2,000 who are in UNHCR camps and had been assessed as genuine and were to come here now must wait until next year or hope another country takes them in.
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They are not refugees they are cashed up Country Shoppers who tried to jump the queue in front of genuine refugees


So much wrong with this sentence, but I want to concentrate on this bit first: "cashed up".

Why do you keep mentioning money?

I can't see any relevance, whatsoever.



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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?



Because they're taking places set aside for genuine refugees.


They are refugees.

All refugees are "genuine".

Until you learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees, you're always gonna look like a dill when discussing this subject.

Oh, and there's no queue either.



Oh, there's a queue alright. Let's say our refugee intake is 15,000 people. Lets say there's 2,000 people who come by boat and are given refugee status. Now the intake is only 13,000 people. The other 2,000 who are in UNHCR camps and had been assessed as genuine and were to come here now must wait until next year or hope another country takes them in.


That's a quota.

There's no queue.

"If UNHCR assesses a refugee to be eligible for resettlement it does not mean that they have joined an orderly ‘queue’, and that they will be guaranteed resettlement to another country when their ‘number comes up’."

Parliament of Australia.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:21pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?



Because they're taking places set aside for genuine refugees.


They are refugees.

All refugees are "genuine".

Until you learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees, you're always gonna look like a dill when discussing this subject.

Oh, and there's no queue either.



Oh, there's a queue alright. Let's say our refugee intake is 15,000 people. Lets say there's 2,000 people who come by boat and are given refugee status. Now the intake is only 13,000 people. The other 2,000 who are in UNHCR camps and had been assessed as genuine and were to come here now must wait until next year or hope another country takes them in.


That's a quota.

There's no queue.

"If UNHCR assesses a refugee to be eligible for resettlement it does not mean that they have joined an orderly ‘queue’, and that they will be guaranteed resettlement to another country when their ‘number comes up’."

Parliament of Australia.



There is a queue. These people get in at the expense of those languishing in squalid UNHCR camps who don't have $10k to pay a people smuggler.
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There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos
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Reply #49 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:21pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Drop kick them back through the goal posts from where their sorry arses came from

Looking at those bludgers squatting in the now de functioned Manus Island when they could move a shorty distance into free accommodation with all the bells and whistles

All they want is a ticket here so they can sponge off us like lice for the rest of their useless bloody lives


They're refugees.

Why no compassion, red - their skin colour, perhaps?



Because they're taking places set aside for genuine refugees.


They are refugees.

All refugees are "genuine".

Until you learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees, you're always gonna look like a dill when discussing this subject.

Oh, and there's no queue either.



Oh, there's a queue alright. Let's say our refugee intake is 15,000 people. Lets say there's 2,000 people who come by boat and are given refugee status. Now the intake is only 13,000 people. The other 2,000 who are in UNHCR camps and had been assessed as genuine and were to come here now must wait until next year or hope another country takes them in.


That's a quota.

There's no queue.

"If UNHCR assesses a refugee to be eligible for resettlement it does not mean that they have joined an orderly ‘queue’, and that they will be guaranteed resettlement to another country when their ‘number comes up’."

Parliament of Australia.



There is a queue. These people get in at the expense of those languishing in squalid UNHCR camps who don't have $10k to pay a people smuggler.


You're confusing the terms 'queue' and 'quota'.

There is no queue.

"If UNHCR assesses a refugee to be eligible for resettlement it does not mean that they have joined an orderly ‘queue’, and that they will be guaranteed resettlement to another country when their ‘number comes up’."

Does Australia only take people from refugee camps?

"No. There is no requirement under Australian law that a person be registered with UNHCR prior to applying for an Australian refugee category visa but in practice most have been recognised as refugees by the UNHCR and have been referred to Australia’s Immigration Department for resettlement (UNHCR referred cases).

However, that does not mean that Australia only accepts refugees from UNHCR camps. Despite the iconic image of refugees living in white tents in a sprawling emergency camp, the reality is that over 60 per cent of the world's 19.5 million refugees live in urban environments."
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John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


Not all queues involve standing in a line.
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John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.

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Reply #54 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.


Or attempting to muscle their way in by testing the governments resolve.
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Reply #55 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.


Or attempting to muscle their way in by testing the governments resolve.


For the 150 that NZ offered to take in, it was quite clearly desperation.

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Just shows how the lying propaganda from the HATE Australia Greenies can twist weak minds with their UN AGENDA 2030 bulldust.

The vile Greenies want to see Australia turned into a 4th world country dumping ground for the world's unwanted blacks and browns and brindles.

This is in accordance with the UN AGENDA 2030 which the foreign funded and controlled Greenies follow and are trying to implement here in Australia.

The AGENDA 2030 specifies all of Nth Qld is to be declared a National Park in which ONLY animals and birds will be allowed. All inferior humans WILL BE BANNED!!!!

Now you know why the Greenies are so against the ADANI coal mine which would be inside their proposed National Park.

Now that Mrs Anny Pally has realized she would have to form a "coalition" with the vile Greenies she has suddenly started yapping about ADANI to try to win over the fowl Greenies.
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juliar wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:24pm:
Just shows how the lying propaganda from the HATE Australia Greenies can twist weak minds with their UN AGENDA 2030 bulldust.

The vile Greenies want to see Australia turned into a 4th world country dumping ground for the world's unwanted blacks and browns and brindles.

This is in accordance with the UN AGENDA 2030 which the foreign funded and controlled Greenies follow and are trying to implement here in Australia.

The AGENDA 2030 specifies all of Nth Qld is to be declared a National Park in which ONLY animals and birds will be allowed. All inferior humans WILL BE BANNED!!!!

Now you know why the Greenies are so against the ADANI coal mine which would be inside their proposed National Park.

Now that Mrs Anny Pally has realized she would have to form a "coalition" with the vile Greenies she has suddenly started yapping about ADANI to try to win over the fowl Greenies.


Off-topic nonsense.

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Reply #58 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.



Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.



Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


1. It's not illegal to use people smugglers.

2. These people are refugees. No ifs, no buts.

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The mind of the gecko troll is splattered with the TRUTH and so paralyzed he lapses into the silly dumb Copy and Xing out Lefty drongo thingy.

Which really says the paw sowl agrees.

Beyond Blue could help you with your feelings of rejection and worthlessness gecko troll. I'm sure Aqua could elaborate.

And just think Bull S. tried to RESTART the BOATS via New Zealand with the help of FANG the Tooth Fairy.

Can Bull S. win back the insulted Mussies over his SSM YES vote blunder with his promise to RESTART the BOATS ?

And Tony Abbott the hero of Australia STOPPED the BOATS!!!!!


...

Given half a chance Bull S. will have the illegals pouring over the front fence again.

Will the NAVY have to start patrolling the south now to stop the illegal country shoppers coming from New Zealand ?
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The lefties want to let all these country shoppers in and pop them on the welfare teat.

Who is going to pay the bill?

I say we either deport or gas them.
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juliar wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:50pm:
The mind of the gecko troll is splattered with the TRUTH and so paralyzed he lapses into the silly dumb Copy and Xing out Lefty drongo thingy.

Which really says the paw sowl agrees.

Beyond Blue could help you with your feelings of rejection and worthlessness gecko troll. I'm sure Aqua could elaborate.

And just think Bull S. tried to RESTART the BOATS via New Zealand with the help of FANG the Tooth Fairy.

Can Bull S. win back the insulted Mussies over his SSM YES vote blunder with his promise to RESTART the BOATS ?

And Tony Abbott the hero of Australia STOPPED the BOATS!!!!!


https://jamesboard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/the-boats-are-all-abbotts-fault.j...

Given half a chance Bull S. will have the illegals pouring over the front fence again.

Will the NAVY have to start patrolling the south now to stop the illegal country shoppers coming from New Zealand ?


I would not go so far as to call Tony Abbott a hero. But that cartoon was spot on. The on Greg posted was supposed to imply that illegals have no choice other than to sneak into Australian territory. Thats why they go to other countries first and pay cash for a boat ride.
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"illegals"     Grin

YES they are illegal
If we withdraw our signature we could charge them.
being a signatory doesn't make their act legal...  it merely prevents us from charging them with the illegality until we prove or disprove their refugee status.
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The lefties want to let all these country shoppers in and pop them on the welfare teat.

Who is going to pay the bill?

I say we either deport or gas them.




I think keep them and deport all lefties.. Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley


maybe the only ones who infest ozpol....


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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:14pm:
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YES they are illegal
If we withdraw our signature we could charge them.
being a signatory doesn't make their act legal...  it merely prevents us from charging them with the illegality until we prove or disprove their refugee status
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No they aren't      Grin
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Hey gecko troll they are all turning against you.

What are you going to come up with to justify your Greeny brainwashing about the illegal country shoppers illegally brought here by the Labor imbeciles ?

Gecko troll you have been brainwashed by the vile Greenies who want to turn Australia into a 4th world country and then dump the world's unwanted Blacks Browns and Brindles here.

Paw sowl U can't comprehend that the vile Greenies are trying to implement the UN AGENDA 2030 right here in Australia.

But there is hope after Tony Abbott STOPPED the BOATS crammed to the rafters with illegal country shoppers.

Now the vile Greenies are going to try to RESTART the BOATS via NZ with the help of FANG the Tooth Fairy.


...
Strewth get a load of those fangs!!!!

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.



Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


1. It's not illegal to use people smugglers.

2. These people are refugees. No ifs, no buts.



Wrong and wrong.
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juliar wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
Hey gecko troll they are all turning against you.

What are you going to come up with to justify your Greeny brainwashing about the illegal country shoppers illegally brought here by the Labor imbeciles ?

Gecko troll you have been brainwashed by the vile Greenies who want to turn Australia into a 4th world country and then dump the world's unwanted Blacks Browns and Brindles here.

Paw sowl U can't comprehend that the vile Greenies are trying to implement the UN AGENDA 2030 right here in Australia.

But there is hope after Tony Abbott STOPPED the BOATS crammed to the rafters with illegal country shoppers.

Now the vile Greenies are going to try to RESTART the BOATS via NZ with the help of FANG the Tooth Fairy.


http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/44823/eight_col_000_TJ1QO.jpg
Strewth get a load of those fangs!!!!


FANG the Tooth Fairy. Grin Grin Grin Grin That's ace!!! She looks like she's got one of those teeth lollies stuck in her stupid mouth.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


They'll never learn.


http://www.safecom.org.au/images/gillard-orderly-queue-kudelka.jpg

They were told they wouldn't be getting in but they still came.


A clear sign of desperation.



Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


1. It's not illegal to use people smugglers.

2. These people are refugees. No ifs, no buts.



Wrong and wrong.


I can assure you, I'm 100% right.

Paying people smugglers to take you to another country to claim asylum is not illegal.

Financing people smuggling operations is , though (buying the boat, paying the crews' wages, fuel, etc.), but paying to be a passenger on the boats is most certainly not illegal.

And, the 150 that NZ were going to take are refugees - this isn't even in dispute.

I can't help it if you don't like the facts, but there they are anyway.
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juliar wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
Hey gecko troll they are all turning against you.

What are you going to come up with to justify your Greeny brainwashing about the illegal country shoppers illegally brought here by the Labor imbeciles ?

Gecko troll you have been brainwashed by the vile Greenies who want to turn Australia into a 4th world country and then dump the world's unwanted Blacks Browns and Brindles here.

Paw sowl U can't comprehend that the vile Greenies are trying to implement the UN AGENDA 2030 right here in Australia.

But there is hope after Tony Abbott STOPPED the BOATS crammed to the rafters with illegal country shoppers.

Now the vile Greenies are going to try to RESTART the BOATS via NZ with the help of FANG the Tooth Fairy.


http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/44823/eight_col_000_TJ1QO.jpg
Strewth get a load of those fangs!!!!




looks like shes borrowed her husbands teeth by mistake.. oh blimey..
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This bunch of would be bludging parasites sitting in the Manus Island defunct facility; all they have to do is move down the road to a newly built quarters with no fences

But these bludging parasites figure if they stay where they are the bleeding hearts in Australia will call for them to be given entry here

Like freaking hell you are coming here you bludging Country Shoppers 95% of you adult males with an agenda in your back pocket..stuff off where you came from..you ain't coming here!
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And the gecko troll is pumping out his faulty Greeny brainwashing about the illegal country shoppers illegally brought here by the Labor imbeciles to go onto WELFARE for EVER for LIFE.

Gecko troll just repeating your incorrect brainwashing doesn't make it correct.

But then the Greeny belief is that - if you don't believe me THEN YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

And Tony Abbott STOPPED the BOATS crammed to the rafters with illegal country shoppers - NOT REFUGEES at all.

Send 'em packing to whence they crawled out of - these evil country shoppers.

Or leave 'em to the cannibals.
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juliar wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:29pm:
...just repeating your incorrect brainwashing doesn't make it correct. ...


I can assure you, I'm 100% right.

Paying people smugglers to take you to another country to claim asylum is not illegal.

Financing people smuggling operations is , though (buying the boat, paying the crews' wages, fuel, etc.), but paying to be a passenger on the boats is most certainly not illegal.

And, the 150 that NZ were going to take are refugees - this isn't even in dispute.

I can't help it if you don't like the facts, but there they are anyway.
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The
'illegal'
mentality shows in the choices they make when 'given' options at Manus. Obviously the Papuans aren't worth living with - for some reason? Maybe they can't get away with drug dealing like they would if they were in Sydney?

Australia has 'politically' always asked for 'skilled & educated' migration (unlike the USA which said "Give us your Poor.").
So where these 'illegals' get off trying to enter Australia 'illegally' and use emotional blackmail ("Let me come in or I will kill myself!" ...which is like "Let me have sex with you or I will kill myself!" Roll Eyes) to enter, is beyond me. Maybe they think that OVER-POPULATION is a good excuse? Many nations use that.

I can see why
Mr _________
who doesn't like being 'name called'  Roll Eyes Grin - being 'Gay' wants to flood Australia with 'illegals' to justify a sense of growing our population.  Tongue Something really screwed up there!  Roll Eyes

I knew that allowing the Gays to justify their behaviour (and using Rednecks as their excuse to be justified) via the SSM vote would open the gates for them to penetrate all the back-doors of our society and create chaos and problems. Making our simply pleasant society, more complicated than it needs to be - pure 'over-indulgent' OVER-ACHIEVERS.

As for the
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- well when a peoples from the Middle-East ignite Religion and use it to oppress Europe for 2000 years and say "We are the way to God", only to have North America come onto the scene where as Germany said "No you're not - you lied" along with the fact that Karma played the role of them having murdered Jesus, creating Christianity and the Germans showing the Jews that they 'reaped what they sowed'. Both were terrible situations - but that's history/karma for you. Tongue
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
There is a queue



really? where do you line up?

how many times do you people need to be told that there is no queue you drongos


Not all queues involve standing in a line.



not all queues are imaginary either.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #78 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy

They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.
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If they  were white Australian protesters on Manus - doing what they were doing - they would be forcibly removed, charged, fined and gaoled!!
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John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right?


People (legally) striving for the very best for their families, and the rightards condemn them for it.

Dear oh dear.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right?


People (legally) striving for the very best for their families, and the rightards condemn them for it.

Dear oh dear.

People condemn it because it's not the best for our country. Obviously you've picked the other side hey Pecca?
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Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy



They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.



more rubbish from the resident more on.
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People striving to do the best for their families..sure Gregg that's why they pissed off from their families with the family jewels..then paid them to pirates so they the adult males could have first dibs at getting their noses into working Australians' pocket books

The sting is to get their sorry arses here, sit in Government funded premises get their family services payments set up for life then finally get the rest of their families from their fly bitten homes here on the family reunion arrangements

Can't see a ripoff when its happening right under your nose can you Gregg?

Most left wingers I've come into contact with  are sorry cases who haven't known the words 'hard work' in their lives. They spend most of their time either running to social services to ensure they are getting paid every possible free allowance they are entitled to or in their  spare time getting stuck into hopeless bleeding heart causes..oh the joy oh the brotherhood ...lets all gather by the river Cheesy
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:14pm:
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YES they are illegal
If we withdraw our signature we could charge them.
being a signatory doesn't make their act legal...  it merely prevents us from charging them with the illegality until we prove or disprove their refugee status
.


No they aren't      Grin

YES THEY ARE GWEGGY....  better duck or run...  the EGG is coming your way.

The 1951 Convention states...
Quote:
The Convention further stipulates that, subject to specific exceptions, refugees should not be penalized for their illegal entry or stay.


Note REFUGEES should not be penalized for ILLEGAL ENTRY.

Yes that's right gweggy only REFUGEES  and it is ILLEGAL ENTRY.

Now run along and wipe that egg off eh. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If you are still having trouble find a very patient adult to explain it to you again. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Goodness gracious, the resident rightards are really pissed off with the perfectly legal refugees this afternoon.

Bad day at work the Centre link office?

Oh well guys, get it out of your systems - we don't want you kicking the dog when you get home.



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One more time...

Article 31
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1.      The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence
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John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy



They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.



more rubbish from the resident more on.


Mr Smith, it appears that the rightards are angry with the perfectly legal refugees because they have more balls and determination than they do.

Pretty gutsy to give your life savings to a bunch of pirates, and then travel across the world in a leaky boat in the hope of starting a new (better) life for you and your family.

The closest a rightard would get to doing something like that, would be chartering a yacht to the Whitsundays for a long weekend.

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Reply #88 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy



They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.



more rubbish from the resident more on.


Mr Smith, it appears that the rightards are angry with the perfectly legal refugees because they have more balls and determination than they do.

Pretty gutsy to give your life savings to a bunch of pirates, and then travel across the world in a leaky boat in the hope of starting a new (better) life for you and your family.

The closest a rightard would get to doing something like that, would be chartering a yacht to the Whitsundays for a long weekend.



the retards are 'angry' fullstop
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy



They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.



more rubbish from the resident more on.


Mr Smith, it appears that the rightards are angry with the perfectly legal refugees because they have more balls and determination than they do.

Pretty gutsy to give your life savings to a bunch of pirates, and then travel across the world in a leaky boat in the hope of starting a new (better) life for you and your family.

The closest a rightard would get to doing something like that, would be chartering a yacht to the Whitsundays for a long weekend.


Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood. The best your ancestors could do Pecca was come out here from Slovenia in a steamship because they probably collaborated with the Nazis and were scared of revenge.
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Reply #90 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:51pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.



1. they were sent here in chains hammer, they didn't have a choice.

2. and just cause your ancestors had balls, doesn't mean you do.
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Reply #91 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:52pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy



They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.



more rubbish from the resident more on.


Mr Smith, it appears that the rightards are angry with the perfectly legal refugees because they have more balls and determination than they do.

Pretty gutsy to give your life savings to a bunch of pirates, and then travel across the world in a leaky boat in the hope of starting a new (better) life for you and your family.

The closest a rightard would get to doing something like that, would be chartering a yacht to the Whitsundays for a long weekend.


Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.


Driving to the local BWS in your rusty Holden, without putting your seat belt on, would be the most adventurous thing you've done this year Homo.

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Reply #92 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.



1. they were sent here in chains hammer, they didn't have a choice.

2. and just cause your ancestors had balls, doesn't mean you do.

Most British people who came out here weren't convicts at all Smith. Look it up. Your grandfather came to a country whose soldiers he fought against. WTF!!
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Reply #93 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Desperation for a more comfortable lifestyle doesn't justify illegal use of people smugglers to attempt to breach our borders against the wishes of our government.


whereas if you were going to run from your homeland with your family and seek asylum elsewhere you'd choose the crappiest place you could find ... right? Cheesy Cheesy



They are supposed to seek asylum in the nearest country which offers them freedom from persecution, not travel half way across the world through suitable countries to wind up in Australia on welfare.



more rubbish from the resident more on.


Mr Smith, it appears that the rightards are angry with the perfectly legal refugees because they have more balls and determination than they do.

Pretty gutsy to give your life savings to a bunch of pirates, and then travel across the world in a leaky boat in the hope of starting a new (better) life for you and your family.

The closest a rightard would get to doing something like that, would be chartering a yacht to the Whitsundays for a long weekend.


Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.


Driving to the local BWS in your rusty Holden, without putting your seat belt on, would be the most adventurous thing you've done this year Homo.


So did your German and Slovenian ancestors fight with the Nazis Pecca? Smith's did. You may have a lot in common.
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Reply #94 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:57pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.



1. they were sent here in chains hammer, they didn't have a choice.

2. and just cause your ancestors had balls, doesn't mean you do.

Most British people who came out here weren't convicts at all Smith. Look it up. Your grandfather came to a country whose soldiers he fought against. WTF!!


my grandfather didn't fight anyone, he was a cook ya dope.
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Oh but we are kicking the dog Greggy...on this site metaphorically

The dog being a flea bitten hopeless project the bleeding hearts society of Australia call..getting Country Shoppers relabelled as Refugees ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #96 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.



1. they were sent here in chains hammer, they didn't have a choice.

2. and just cause your ancestors had balls, doesn't mean you do.

Most British people who came out here weren't convicts at all Smith. Look it up. Your grandfather came to a country whose soldiers he fought against. WTF!!


my grandfather didn't fight anyone, he was a cook ya dope.

He certainly wasn't on Australia's side hey?
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Reply #97 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:00pm
 
Since when did the gecko troll become an hexspurt on illegal entries to Oz ? Or is it all just in his not very full head only ? Sounds like it judging by all the blatantly incorrect nonsense he keeps banging on about. But then empty vessels make the most sound.

Thank God for Australia that Tony Abbott STOPPED the BOATS full of illegal country shoppers wanting to come to Australia to go onto WELFARE for LIFE.

But back to some factuals of why it is SO IMPORTANT for Australia to STOP the BOATS irregardless of the lying propaganda being spread about by the traitorous Greenies.




No-go zones – coming soon!
AMM 20/11/2017

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More and more we are seeing criminal migrants taking over our suburbs. For example, revealing new crime data – listing for the first time offenders by country of birth – shows sharp increases in carjacking and aggravated burglaries in Melbourne by Sudanese offenders.

The statistics show car thefts by Sudanese-born offenders rose significantly from 2015 to 2016. Aggravated burglaries almost doubled in 2016. Sudanese-born offenders committed 4.8 per cent of the aggravated burglaries in the state, according to the data.  Sudanese offenders make up 2.1 per cent of car thefts and car-jackings.

The community makes up less than 1 per cent of the Victorian population.Yes, our invited guests sure punch above their weight. They do everywhere.
A new report claims that migrant youth gangs in the Ebertplatz area of Cologne are becoming increasingly violent, leading some to describe the area as turning into a no-go zone.

Authorities in the Eberplatz area say that in recent months young migrants from the Middle East and Africa have turned the place into a no-go zone once the sun goes down. Over just the past nine months, police have been involved in around 3,000 incidents in the area ranging from simple stop and search to the murder of a 22-year-old African migrant last Saturday evening, Die Welt reports.

Police arrested three men in connection with the murder saying they were all part of the local drug scene. Police officials in Germany have previously warned that in some areas of the country asylum seekers and illegal migrants have begun to take over the lucrative drug trade, often using violence to achieve their goals.

One of the reasons the area has become so popular for drug dealing is its design allows criminals to come and go through passageways and tunnels and avoid authorities.

“The square is designed at such angles that even on the ground police can not overlook the entire area. This means that drug trafficking and acts of violence are not detected and prevented in a timely manner,” police said.
While police are called into the area on a daily basis and have carried out over 3,000 separate actions in the area, only 19 suspects have been arrested and prosecuted for crimes.

Ruth Wennemar, the spokesman for a local citizen’s association, said she, along with many other women, avoided the area altogether. “It has become a no-go zone for them. The boys drink hard alcohol from noon,” she said adding: “In the evening from 8 pm the Africans dominate the square, a marijuana cloud floats over it. That goes well into the night.”

The scenes are similar to reports in Paris where migrants in certain neighbourhoods harass women on the street and refuse to let them into cafes.
Politicians and police have advocated increasing the police presence in the area by building a mobile small police station, a move which is also being tried in an emerging no-go zone in Berlin. Local resident Gerd Franke, 63, said a redesign of the area and an increased police presence will not work. “At best, the drug scene will shift elsewhere,” he said.

Leftist media saturates the news. Fight back. Send articles to your friends, politicians, local media, and facebook.


http://morningmail.org/migrant-no-go-zones/#more-71755

And now some fair dinkum COMMENTS so different to the Lefties' bogus bunkum.

Graham Richards 20/11/2017, 6:16 am
Dutton is deporting New Zealand criminals by the dozen but never a mention of the deportation of Sudanese criminals. I hope he’s not using the he deportation of Kiwis as a smoke screen to cover up a soft approach to African criminals! Unfortunately we can’t trust any bloody politicians nowadays hence the the question!

TommyGun 20/11/2017, 11:29 am
Dutton is powerless to deport Sudanese.
They are refugees and refugees CANNOT be deported. Therin lies the problem!

Finn 20/11/2017, 7:58 am
Bankstown Lajemba are already no ho zones

Neville 20/11/2017, 5:54 pm
On the contrary Finn, there’s plenty of hoes in Bankstown and Lakemba. Bloke I work with, his brother lives next door to a quite well-established pimp, who runs a pretty fair number of them.

Lorraine 20/11/2017, 8:13 am
The Labor Party let in Criminals ,imported gangs and Daniel Andrews does nothing .

Joe Blogs 20/11/2017, 8:24 am
Criminals are the ALP’s natural constituents, L.  The Ape-ex gang are a new branch of Young Labor.

Lorraine 20/11/2017, 8:47 am
You are right sorry I messed up thinking that a State Government would bring them there thugs into line.
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Reply #98 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:01pm
 
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
Oh but we are kicking the dog Greggy...on this site metaphorically

The dog being a flea bitten hopeless project the bleeding hearts society of Australia call..getting Country Shoppers relabelled as Refugees ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!


Nothing to do with relabelling.

They've been declared refugees by the authorities.

You might not like the facts, but you can't change them.

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Reply #99 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Righto asshole. Most of our white ancestors came out here in old wooden boats to a wild country and built a great place. Don't bet on it. It's in our blood.



1. they were sent here in chains hammer, they didn't have a choice.

2. and just cause your ancestors had balls, doesn't mean you do.

Most British people who came out here weren't convicts at all Smith. Look it up. Your grandfather came to a country whose soldiers he fought against. WTF!!


my grandfather didn't fight anyone, he was a cook ya dope.

He certainly wasn't on Australia's side hey?


he was on his side.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #100 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm
 
When do WE get an APLOLOGY from the asylum seekers (read thieves) who

Defrauded our welfare system

Raped our women

Molested our children

Insulted us and denigrated us because we don't worship their devil

Protested about being looked after

And participated in crime at 10 time the rate of normal humans

WHEN??????????????????
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Reply #101 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:03pm
 
Valkie wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
When do WE get an APLOLOGY from the asylum seekers (read thieves) who

Defrauded our welfare system

Raped our women

Molested our children

Insulted us and denigrated us because we don't worship their devil

Protested about being looked after

And participated in crime at 10 time the rate of normal humans

WHEN??????????????????


'your' women?
'your' children?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


get our hand of it Valkie Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #102 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:06pm
 
How absurd the gecko troll saying you can't change facts when in every pointless irrelevant "troll post" he makes incorrect statements.

But trolls basically just want to get noticed and want a response. Facts are totally irrelevant.
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Reply #103 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:08pm
 
What authorities and if you quote the U.N. I'm going to have to thrash you with a wet tea towel!
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Reply #104 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:08pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
Oh but we are kicking the dog Greggy...on this site metaphorically

The dog being a flea bitten hopeless project the bleeding hearts society of Australia call..getting Country Shoppers relabelled as Refugees ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!


Nothing to do with relabelling.

They've been declared refugees by the authorities.

You might not like the facts, but you can't change them.





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Reply #105 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:12pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:03pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
When do WE get an APLOLOGY from the asylum seekers (read thieves) who

Defrauded our welfare system

Raped our women

Molested our children

Insulted us and denigrated us because we don't worship their devil

Protested about being looked after

And participated in crime at 10 time the rate of normal humans

WHEN??????????????????


'your' women?
'your' children?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


get our hand of it Valkie Cheesy Cheesy


Is there a full moon tonight?

The rightards seem to have kicked their bigotry and irrational hatred into over-drive this evening.

What have these perfectly legal refugees ever done to them?

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Reply #106 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
Is there a full moon tonight?

The rightards seem to have kicked their bigotry and irrational hatred into over-drive this evening.

What have these perfectly legal refugees ever done to them?





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Reply #107 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:03pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
When do WE get an APLOLOGY from the asylum seekers (read thieves) who

Defrauded our welfare system

Raped our women

Molested our children

Insulted us and denigrated us because we don't worship their devil

Protested about being looked after

And participated in crime at 10 time the rate of normal humans

WHEN??????????????????


'your' women?
'your' children?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


get our hand of it Valkie Cheesy Cheesy


Is there a full moon tonight?

The rightards seem to have kicked their bigotry and irrational hatred into over-drive this evening.

What have these perfectly legal refugees ever done to them?



I especially like the bit where Vlakie complains that someone 'insulted and denigrated' him ......



it's like the twilight zone Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #108 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm
 
quote: Greggy...."perfectly legal refugees"

Bloody hell help me Greggy I'm rolling around laughing here and don't want to have a coronary

Please say something serious

You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz

They simply just don't go together..like water and oil


10K Country Shopper YES Refugee..I don't think so Tim
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Reply #109 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:03pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
When do WE get an APLOLOGY from the asylum seekers (read thieves) who

Defrauded our welfare system

Raped our women

Molested our children

Insulted us and denigrated us because we don't worship their devil

Protested about being looked after

And participated in crime at 10 time the rate of normal humans

WHEN??????????????????


'your' women?
'your' children?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


get our hand of it Valkie Cheesy Cheesy


Is there a full moon tonight?

The rightards seem to have kicked their bigotry and irrational hatred into over-drive this evening.

What have these perfectly legal refugees ever done to them?



I especially like the bit where Vlakie complains that someone 'insulted and denigrated' him ......



it's like the twilight zone Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I like the bit where he makes up lies, and then gets angry about the lies he's created.

WTF?    Grin

He's gonna give himself a heart attack.

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Were your grandparents scared of the Russians Pecca?
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The gecko troll is in troll heaven with all the responses he is getting.

If anyone should apologize it is the Labor imbeciles who cost Aust a fortune by illegally bringing their illegal country shoppers here.

How long has it taken the good govt to clean up Labor's mess ?
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red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
quote: Greggy...."perfectly legal refugees"

Bloody hell help me Greggy I'm rolling around laughing here and don't want to have a coronary

Please say something serious

You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz

They simply just don't go together..like water and oil



I'm glad you brought that up, because I've been wanting to corner you on this for a very long time.

My bet is, you'll log off as soon as you read this post.

Now, red, a refugee (or asylum seeker) can be a multi-millionaire.

The amount of money they have is completely irrelevant.

They can be poor, or they can be rich.

'Refugee' is not a synonym for 'pauper'.

Your failure to understand this, makes you look a bigger goose than Grendel.

By all means , though, prove me wrong: show me your evidence that proves a refugee must be poor in order to be fleeing persecution.

I'm here waiting, but I'm guessing you'll run away like you always do when I confront you on this lie you insist on perpetuating.


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red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Why not?

Why are you too gutless to answer this question, red.

Where are you getting your information from that tells you a refugee must be a pauper?

Refugee:

"a person who flees for refuge or safety, especially to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc."

"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."

"a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution".


Red?

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Reply #114 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:37pm
 

And there we have it!

Exactly as I predicted.

"red baron: offline"

Lying coward.



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Reply #115 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:42pm
 
The absurd gecko troll is patting himself on the back as he thinks he has convinced everyone his lying Greenie trash is fair dinkum.

You need to look at the Greenies' hidden agenda in trying to swamp Aust with the world's unwanted Blacks Browns and Brindles.

See the Greenies reckon because Aust is as big as the USA and only has 25 million population then it MUST be able to take many millions of illegals.

And bear in mind the Greenies are controlled and financed from similar ratbag groups overseas.

Wonder where the slimy GetUp! sits on all this illegal entry stuff ?


Thank God for Australia that Tony Abbott STOPPED the BOATS!!!
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Reply #116 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Why not?

Why are you too gutless to answer this question, red.

Where are you getting your information from that tells you a refugee must be a pauper?

Refugee:

"a person who flees for refuge or safety, especially to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc."

"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."

"a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution".


Red?



Red?
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The gecko troll is fishing for responses.

And like a solar panel he is at his worst when it gets dark.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:25pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
quote: Greggy...."perfectly legal refugees"

Bloody hell help me Greggy I'm rolling around laughing here and don't want to have a coronary

Please say something serious

You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz

They simply just don't go together..like water and oil



I'm glad you brought that up, because I've been wanting to corner you on this for a very long time.

My bet is, you'll log off as soon as you read this post.

Now, red, a refugee (or asylum seeker) can be a multi-millionaire.

The amount of money they have is completely irrelevant.

They can be poor, or they can be rich.

'Refugee' is not a synonym for 'pauper'.

Your failure to understand this, makes you look a bigger goose than Grendel.

By all means , though, prove me wrong: show me your evidence that proves a refugee must be poor in order to be fleeing persecution.

I'm here waiting, but I'm guessing you'll run away like you always do when I confront you on this lie you insist on perpetuating.




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Reply #119 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm
 
Gweggy had a conniption and is so deep in denial about what the 1951 UN Convention actually says...

I already posted it and highlighted it and explained it twice tonight...

Poor gweggy....  he's off his medication or badly in need of some.
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Reply #120 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:49pm
 
One more time....
sigh...
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:14pm:
"illegals"     Grin

YES they are illegal
If we withdraw our signature we could charge them.
being a signatory doesn't make their act legal...  it merely prevents us from charging them with the illegality until we prove or disprove their refugee status
.


No they aren't      Grin

YES THEY ARE GWEGGY....  better duck or run...  the EGG is coming your way.

The 1951 Convention states...
Quote:
The Convention further stipulates that, subject to specific exceptions, refugees should not be penalized for their illegal entry or stay.


Note REFUGEES should not be penalized for ILLEGAL ENTRY.

Yes that's right gweggy only REFUGEES  and it is ILLEGAL ENTRY.

Now run along and wipe that egg off eh. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If you are still having trouble find a very patient adult to explain it to you again. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #121 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:50pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Why not?

Why are you too gutless to answer this question, red.

Where are you getting your information from that tells you a refugee must be a pauper?

Refugee:

"a person who flees for refuge or safety, especially to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc."

"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."

"a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution".


Red?



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Reply #122 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:54pm
 
Grendel, stir up the gecko troll as he is more entertaining when he gets rude and crude.


Red the gecko troll wants a response from you.

That's why at the front gate of every good web site there is a BIG sign which says

Don't feed the trolls!!!

It only makes them worse!!!!
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I've worked on Construction sites where I've only ever met 'two' (x2) Boat people. They were Labouring.
Within the week, you get to know them well enough to know that they deal drugs on the side.
Good workers?
Sure, if just doing the light, non-important jobs of little responsibility is the go.
There were a few other workers that were supportive of their 'Boat entry' past. But they probably got their drugs off them.
There were others who didn't give a damn and other's who didn't like them at all. Saying "Over-paid rubbish."
I tended to agree with the latter.
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Reply #124 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 7:36am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Why not?

Where are you getting your information from that tells you a refugee must be a pauper?

Refugee:

"a person who flees for refuge or safety, especially to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc."

"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."

"a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution".


Red?



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Reply #125 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 7:40am
 
Hey Red the gecko troll still wants a response from you. You know how trolls need to get a response otherwise they feel rejected and worthless.

Don't feed the trolls as it only makes them worse.
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Reply #126 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 7:42am
 
juliar wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 7:40am:
Hey Red the gecko troll still wants a response from you. You know how trolls need to get a response otherwise they feel rejected and worthless.

Don't feed the trolls as it only makes them worse.

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Reply #127 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 7:50am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:24am:
ive always felt a bit disgusted by people who hold up posters and placards.

they are saying "we are virtuous and you are not".

thats the jist of it.

but thats coming from a place of very lower consciousness.
its low level narcisism and its a failure to acknowledge all the truths of emotional intelligence.

perhaps a poster saying

"we recognise that we are not perfect. we know the good people of australia are doing their best. we would like to come to australia with a spirit of contribution...etc, etc."

but this "me,me,me and my rough little story".
this i want to "take", i fell the need to "take".
give me, give me, give me....

that just sends all the wrong messages and those arent the sorts of personalities we want.

i'd be quite happy for the government to say


we are going to go to your country of origin and we are going to find an equivalent number of people who are

'smiling, grateful, contributing and not in taker mode" and they can come to australia.

you can come, when you show us you have learnt how the universe works (or should work). you can come when you stop the taking and start to become more awesome. and the first thing you need to do is prove that to us.
now why dont you go into the town of manus and clean up the streets, help the old and infirm, help the locals fill pot holes, help them dig wells, laugh and share a joke with them and show them and then show us that you are worthy of coming to our wonderful country.
we need more contributors, we have enough takers



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Reply #128 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 8:31am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Why not?

Where are you getting your information from that tells you a refugee must be a pauper?

Refugee:

"a person who flees for refuge or safety, especially to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc."

"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."

"a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution".


Red?



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Reply #129 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 8:38am
 
just read where gweg is in fact briaaaaaaaaaaaane   

and its true... Grin Grin

gweg  tttttsk tsk..
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Hey Red the gecko troll still wants a response from you. You know how trolls need to get a response otherwise they feel rejected and worthless.

Don't feed the trolls as it only makes them worse.


The gecko troll sounds like a broken record. Reminds one of Juliar Gillard

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cods.

who is Briane when he is at home ?

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brian Ross...

deary deary me....you seriously have never run across our resident Muslim PR man??.....

wow you dont get out much do you?tsk tsk
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Hey gecko troll are you really Brian Ross the resident Muslim PR man with a prayer mat ?
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Reply #134 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm
 
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

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Reply #135 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.
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Reply #136 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?

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Reply #137 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair. That's why the people smuggler option should be destroyed.
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Reply #138 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.



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Reply #139 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?
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Reply #140 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?


No.

But that's not the issue.

Why does red think refugees are poor?


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Reply #141 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?


No.

But that's not the issue.

Why does red think refugees are poor?



of course it does.
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Reply #142 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:56pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?


No.

But that's not the issue.

Why does red think refugees are poor?



of course it does.


Why does red think refugees are poor?
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Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?
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Reply #146 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.


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Reply #147 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration that takes the right of Australia to choose it's refugees  on varying criteria. Your method takes poverty out of the equation and I believe that's a very important part of refugee status.
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red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
quote: Greggy...."perfectly legal refugees"

Bloody hell help me Greggy I'm rolling around laughing here and don't want to have a coronary

Please say something serious

You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz

They simply just don't go together..like water and oil


10K Country Shopper YES Refugee..I don't think so Tim


Here we go Homo, look at red's post above.

red isn't say that refugees with money have an unfair advantage, or anything like that.

He's clearly stating that you can't be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Now, you and I both know he's wrong, but where did he get that misinformation from.

Every time I ask him, he runs away.

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Reply #149 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.



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Reply #150 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:46pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.



Sounds like it??? Roll Eyes
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Reply #151 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:49pm
 
This old poo again.

Gregg what do you mean when you say there is no queue? its not lines of people on a beach waiting for a people smuggler.

When Gillard, Swann and Rudd talked about going back to the queue they meant boat arrivals not have precedence, the lowest priority in resttlements.

And as you are not aware, queue jumpers refer to those who attempt to circumvent the humanitarian intake by doing a forced migration themselves, this reducing the intake for that year.

It was all fun and games till Gillard and later Rudd got the rude awakening, the sort of awakening the tyou don't get by sitting on your arse on a forum all day, but the awakening from focus groups and talking to people that arrivals washing up in ever increasing amounts is an election loser.

Hence the Rudd principles, tow them back where safe to do so, no resettlement ever in Australia for those that wash up.  Principles harsher than the last set of harsh principals from that other great Labor progressive Paul Keating who legislated mandatory detention.

And you buggerwits are not aware of any of it judging by your rubbish where you try to label everything bad as the coalition.

Fact is the coalition couldn't get away with a fraction of the poo that you clowns legislated  because Labor knows, it's own rusted on cretins won't say boo.

No sea of hands when Labor is in power.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #152 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:50pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.



Sounds like it??? Roll Eyes


Yes.

Who wouldn't want to see asylum seekers have a chance to have their claims assessed?

What possible reason could there be to deny them that opportunity?

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Reply #153 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




Would you concede that when 35,000 people smuggler payers make it into the country the government gets flooded and stops sourcing the UNCR refugees who have no money?
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Reply #154 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:57pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




Would you concede that when 35,000 people smuggler payers make it into the country the government gets flooded and stops sourcing the UNCR refugees who have no money?


Nobody is denying there's a quota.

Now, back to the subject.

Red says that it's impossible to be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Who told him this lie?

He won't answer, and you keep avoiding the question.
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Reply #155 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




Would you concede that when 35,000 people smuggler payers make it into the country the government gets flooded and stops sourcing the UNCR refugees who have no money?


Nobody is denying there's a quota.

Now, back to the subject.

Red says that it's impossible to be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Who told him this lie?

He won't answer, and you keep avoiding the question.

See muppet, people smuggling stops the UNCR reffos getting a go and you support that????
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Reply #156 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:59pm
 
It's going to be interesting the next Labor government.  They may still have a legacy load of the last load of unfortunates they laid the sugar put on the table for.

Hopefully they will be gone. And Labor will once again inherit secure borders.

Moreover, unlike Gregg and his fellow travelers in idiocy I am sure that Labor will have enough corporate memory remaining to not revisit the last epic clusterbugger they initiated. 

I am pretty confident they will remain as hash as they have been in in the past (apart from the Rudd/Gillard buggerwittery aberration pandering to cretins like those who spend all day here).

We shall see, no doubt people smugglers smelling the change of government will give it another crack. They have a corporate memory as well, and they remember the good times, two boats a day and awash with money.
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Reply #157 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:00pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




Would you concede that when 35,000 people smuggler payers make it into the country the government gets flooded and stops sourcing the UNCR refugees who have no money?


Nobody is denying there's a quota.

Now, back to the subject.

Red says that it's impossible to be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Who told him this lie?

He won't answer, and you keep avoiding the question.

See muppet, people smuggling stops the UNCR reffos getting a go and you support that????


I don't support one method over the other.

I've told you this several times.

Do you have a mental disability?

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Red says that it's impossible to be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Who told him this lie?
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Reply #159 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:00pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




Would you concede that when 35,000 people smuggler payers make it into the country the government gets flooded and stops sourcing the UNCR refugees who have no money?


Nobody is denying there's a quota.

Now, back to the subject.

Red says that it's impossible to be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Who told him this lie?

He won't answer, and you keep avoiding the question.

See muppet, people smuggling stops the UNCR reffos getting a go and you support that????


I don't support one method over the other.

I've told you this several times.

Do you have a mental disability?


Yes you do. You've been on here for years cheering on people smuggling.
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Reply #160 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:10pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:00pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.




Would you concede that when 35,000 people smuggler payers make it into the country the government gets flooded and stops sourcing the UNCR refugees who have no money?


Nobody is denying there's a quota.

Now, back to the subject.

Red says that it's impossible to be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Who told him this lie?

He won't answer, and you keep avoiding the question.

See muppet, people smuggling stops the UNCR reffos getting a go and you support that????


I don't support one method over the other.

I've told you this several times.

Do you have a mental disability?


Yes you do. You've been on here for years cheering on people smuggling.


I cheer on all asylum seekers.

I don't, however, favour one method over another.

You, on the other hand, think they should all just go away and die.

Are you a sociopath, Homo?

I'm curious.

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Reply #161 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am
 
Red....  seems you have Gweggy stuck in a loop...  usually that's just his normal obsessive TROLLING...  but he's right in that Refugees can be rich people too...  country shoppers...

He cheers on all asylum seekers even those who are not genuine refugees...  he's rather create bottlenecks in the global refugee system, and see people killed at sea and pay criminals to get here, tying up our Immigration system with appeals and false claims, when they should be deported back home where they were perfectly safe in the first place.
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Reply #162 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am
 
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

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Reply #163 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:28am
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
...   even those who are not genuine refugees... 


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.

They're either a refugee, or they're not.

Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

You've been assigned your homework, now don't come back until you've got it right.

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Reply #164 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:41am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

Angry Angry Angry




trouble with whingeing about what is done is done...

we will never know what would have happened had the war never taken place...

all we see right now is WARS with dictators  in charge..

do you think   the middle east would be better  if the West walked away??......I see where Iran and Saudi Arabia  are now eyeing each other off.......do you seriously hold the USA and Australia responsible for the chaos over there??>>.

the dumping of innocent people was rudds idea btw...



dont forget we live in more advanced times....and the middle east is just as up to date with modern times when it comes to WARFARE. Sad
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Reply #165 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:44am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
...   even those who are not genuine refugees... 


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.

They're either a refugee, or they're not.

Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

You've been assigned your homework, now don't come back until you've got it right.




Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

so just let them all in! stamped refugee...

I am sure buill has that all in mind.
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I might go knock a few women up, have some kids I can't afford to responsibly care for and dump them in Peckerheads house for him to pay for.
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Reply #167 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:13am
 
cods wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
...   even those who are not genuine refugees... 


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.

They're either a refugee, or they're not.

Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

You've been assigned your homework, now don't come back until you've got it right.




Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

so just let them all in! stamped refugee...

I am sure buill has that all in mind.


No.

Let them all be processed in a timely manner.

Those who aren't refugees, are sent home.

There's no reason for the next Prime Minister to want to see people granted refugee status who aren't refugees.

So, not sure what you're thinking of there.

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Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:48am:
I might go knock a few women up, have some kids I can't afford to responsibly care for and dump them in Peckerheads house for him to pay for.
No room in my little Shanty for them.


Off-topic nonsense.

Stay focused.
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Reply #169 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:28am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:13am:
cods wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
...   even those who are not genuine refugees... 


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.

They're either a refugee, or they're not.

Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

You've been assigned your homework, now don't come back until you've got it right.




Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

so just let them all in! stamped refugee...

I am sure buill has that all in mind.


No.

Let them all be processed in a timely manner.

Those who aren't refugees, are sent home.

There's no reason for the next Prime Minister to want to see people granted refugee status who aren't refugees.

So, not sure what you're thinking of there.




you just said


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.

They're either a refugee, or they're not.

Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.



its all about protection ..

why would one deserve it and not the other??

do we have en try doors now one with Asylum Seekers on it the other Refugees here....

we have a very fair system now in this country  or will have where every one can get married....no them and us...

dont you see this also becoming one eventually?>..


processing.... how do you process someone who by all accounts has lost everything?
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Reply #170 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:38am
 
cods wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:28am:
its all about protection ..

why would one deserve it and not the other??

Refugees deserve protection.

Those who aren't refugees, don't need it.

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An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!

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Reply #172 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
...   even those who are not genuine refugees... 


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.
Oh dear lying again gweggy... a non-genuine refugee is NOT a refugee...  a genuine refugee IS a refugee...  I do hope you can get someone who speaks English to explain that to you.


They're either a refugee, or they're not.

yep... glad you agree


Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

Ummmm...  I do know the difference, care to actually prove where I showed I didn't?  No?  How usual for you to be a liar.


You've been assigned your homework, now don't come back until you've got it right.

Now run along back to your bridge TROLL...  stop wasting my time.



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philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

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An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.

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Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

Angry Angry Angry

oh dear....  what are you trying to say Phil...  they are all Iraqi? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Are you claiming Iraq was not a mistake mate???

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Reply #176 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:13am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:13am:
cods wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
...   even those who are not genuine refugees... 


No such thing as a genuine refugee, or non-genuine refugee.

They're either a refugee, or they're not.

Again, please learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

You've been assigned your homework, now don't come back until you've got it right.




Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

so just let them all in! stamped refugee...

I am sure buill has that all in mind.


No.

Let them all be processed in a timely manner.

Those who aren't refugees, are sent home.
They are not now and thanks to the UN protocol refoulement is not allowed.


There's no reason for the next Prime Minister to want to see people granted refugee status who aren't refugees.
yet many have been through the appeal process and LW Prog bleeding heart non-elected tribunals.


So, not sure what you're thinking of there.

Sure YOU are not thinking there...



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philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

Angry Angry Angry

oh dear....  what are you trying to say Phil...  they are all Iraqi? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Are you claiming Iraq was not a mistake mate???

Huh Huh Huh

That's not what I said.
The problem is what YOU said Phil.
tsk, tsk,tsk oh dearie, dearie me. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #178 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:36pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:15am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

Angry Angry Angry

oh dear....  what are you trying to say Phil...  they are all Iraqi? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Are you claiming Iraq was not a mistake mate???

Huh Huh Huh

That's not what I said.
The problem is what YOU said Phil.
tsk, tsk,tsk oh dearie, dearie me. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


No what you did was take my comment out of context and break it down to an irrelevant issue....The flow on affects of the war on terror have created the current instability and flow of refugees (Australia and the USA are bombing Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan). The fact you made such a stupid comment does not surprise me as you are an LNP devote with a very low moral compass!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

Educate yourself mate....

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/22/australia-to-resume-air-c...

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Analysis-War-on-terror-took-region-from-bad-to-...

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Reply #179 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:15am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

Angry Angry Angry

oh dear....  what are you trying to say Phil...  they are all Iraqi? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Are you claiming Iraq was not a mistake mate???

Huh Huh Huh

That's not what I said.
The problem is what YOU said Phil.
tsk, tsk,tsk oh dearie, dearie me. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


No what you did was take my comment out of context and break it down to an irrelevant issue....The flow on affects of the war on terror have created the current instability and flow of refugees (Australia and the USA are bombing Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan). The fact you made such a stupid comment does not surprise me as you are an LNP devote with a very low moral compass!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

Educate yourself mate....

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/22/australia-to-resume-air-c...

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Analysis-War-on-terror-took-region-from-bad-to-...

https://www.globalpolicy.org/war-on-terrorism.html



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Reply #180 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:57pm
 
bwood1946 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:15am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:23am:
Australia should not have entered into George W Bushes war on terror that was based on lies and a false premise that invading Iraq would make the world a safer place....Australia has dirty hands all over this disgusting abuse of power and privilege that have created a wave of refugees we refuse to help or take any responsibility for....Dumping innocent people onto a third world country like Papua New Guinea is not beneficial to anyone accept an Australian Government pandering and stoking the fears and prejudice of the Australian people for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of and deserves the criticism it is receiving!!!

Angry Angry Angry

oh dear....  what are you trying to say Phil...  they are all Iraqi? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Are you claiming Iraq was not a mistake mate???

Huh Huh Huh

That's not what I said.
The problem is what YOU said Phil.
tsk, tsk,tsk oh dearie, dearie me. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


No what you did was take my comment out of context and break it down to an irrelevant issue....The flow on affects of the war on terror have created the current instability and flow of refugees (Australia and the USA are bombing Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan). The fact you made such a stupid comment does not surprise me as you are an LNP devote with a very low moral compass!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

Educate yourself mate....

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/22/australia-to-resume-air-c...

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Analysis-War-on-terror-took-region-from-bad-to-...

https://www.globalpolicy.org/war-on-terrorism.html



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What did that have to do with Iraq???

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Reply #181 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:03pm
 
Sorry phil YOU are wrong and I am right.

You created a strawman not I....

I pointed out your strawman was wrong.

Suck it up phil...  move along.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:07pm:
An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.


Sorry boys you are wrong.
Illegal Entry is something people do and those using people smugglers definitely do.
It is defined and recognised in the UN Convention.

Yes asylum seekers are people supposedly seeking asylum, some are deemed genuine refugees others not.

The Convention merely states that asylum seekers/refugees who have made an Illegal entry are not to be prosecuted for such an act and their bona fides as a refugee need to be tested and recognised or not.  It very definitely does not say they did nothing Illegal. Roll Eyes
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Reply #183 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 1:34am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:14am:
Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:48am:
I might go knock a few women up, have some kids I can't afford to responsibly care for and dump them in Peckerheads house for him to pay for.
No room in my little Shanty for them.


Off-topic nonsense.

Stay focused
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Agnes wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 1:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:14am:
Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:48am:
I might go knock a few women up, have some kids I can't afford to responsibly care for and dump them in Peckerheads house for him to pay for.
No room in my little Shanty for them.


Off-topic nonsense.

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HI ALL

Ah SORRY but not that lot, They are forcing there way in. Another reason is i pay a criminal organisation to get a job done. Under Australian law I go to jail. Which by definition makes these boat people unacceptable!

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Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:07pm:
An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.


Sorry boys you are wrong.
Illegal Entry is something people do and those using people smugglers definitely do.
It is defined and recognised in the UN Convention.

Yes asylum seekers are people supposedly seeking asylum, some are deemed genuine refugees others not.

The Convention merely states that asylum seekers/refugees who have made an Illegal entry are not to be prosecuted for such an act and their bona fides as a refugee need to be tested and recognised or not.  It very definitely does not say they did nothing Illegal. Roll Eyes


It is the people smugglers who are charged and prosecuted not asylum seekers....The asylum seekers have done nothing illegal....You are the one who is completely wrong as usual!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Educate yourself mate....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...
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Reply #187 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:07am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:07pm:
An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.


Sorry boys you are wrong.
Illegal Entry is something people do and those using people smugglers definitely do.
It is defined and recognised in the UN Convention.

Yes asylum seekers are people supposedly seeking asylum, some are deemed genuine refugees others not.

The Convention merely states that asylum seekers/refugees who have made an Illegal entry are not to be prosecuted for such an act and their bona fides as a refugee need to be tested and recognised or not.  It very definitely does not say they did nothing Illegal. Roll Eyes


It is the people smugglers who are charged and prosecuted not asylum seekers....The asylum seekers have done nothing illegal....You are the one who is completely wrong as usual!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Educate yourself mate....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

Oh dear
tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me...

They are Illegal entries Phil...  no amount of stupidity, denial or obfuscation will alter that FACT.

The crews get charged Phil because they are not asylum seekers claiming refugee status.. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Oh and PHIL...  EDUCATE YOURSELF...  read the actual Convention, that's what I did and I quoted it here and still you post idiocy re the facts.

Now run along and insult someone else, your trolling is wasted on me.
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Reply #189 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 7:02pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:07am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:07pm:
An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.


Sorry boys you are wrong.
Illegal Entry is something people do and those using people smugglers definitely do.
It is defined and recognised in the UN Convention.

Yes asylum seekers are people supposedly seeking asylum, some are deemed genuine refugees others not.

The Convention merely states that asylum seekers/refugees who have made an Illegal entry are not to be prosecuted for such an act and their bona fides as a refugee need to be tested and recognised or not.  It very definitely does not say they did nothing Illegal. Roll Eyes


It is the people smugglers who are charged and prosecuted not asylum seekers....The asylum seekers have done nothing illegal....You are the one who is completely wrong as usual!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Educate yourself mate....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

Oh dear
tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me...

They are Illegal entries Phil...  no amount of stupidity, denial or obfuscation will alter that FACT.

The crews get charged Phil because they are not asylum seekers claiming refugee status.. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
just how thick are you? Roll Eyes


Not as thick as you....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

Quote:
People entering Australia without a visa are not referred to as "illegal" in the Act.

Until September 1994, it did refer to "illegal entrants". This reference was removed in 1992 to simplify and clarify the existing categories on immigration status.

The Migration Act now says that a person who was classed as an illegal entrant before September 1994 became an unlawful non-citizen after that date.

In a provision dealing with people smuggling, the Act says a non-citizen has "no lawful right to come to Australia" if that person does not hold a valid visa.

Irrespective of these sections, it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa.

The description of foreigners previously as illegal and currently as unlawful in the Migration Act does not mean they have broken the law.

It is a description of their entry status and determines the way authorities process them.

Arriving without a visa can only result in criminal sanctions if there is some other offence involved such as falsifying a passport or forging a document.


Nothing I said was incorrect....Illegal entry is a term only used to describe how asylum seekers arrived and has no bearing on their legal status....Asylum seekers have broken no laws....Dickhead!!!

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Reply #190 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:57am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:07am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:07pm:
An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.


Sorry boys you are wrong.
Illegal Entry is something people do and those using people smugglers definitely do.
It is defined and recognised in the UN Convention.

Yes asylum seekers are people supposedly seeking asylum, some are deemed genuine refugees others not.

The Convention merely states that asylum seekers/refugees who have made an Illegal entry are not to be prosecuted for such an act and their bona fides as a refugee need to be tested and recognised or not.  It very definitely does not say they did nothing Illegal. Roll Eyes


It is the people smugglers who are charged and prosecuted not asylum seekers....The asylum seekers have done nothing illegal....You are the one who is completely wrong as usual!!!

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Educate yourself mate....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

Oh dear
tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me...

They are Illegal entries Phil...  no amount of stupidity, denial or obfuscation will alter that FACT.

The crews get charged Phil because they are not asylum seekers claiming refugee status.. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
just how thick are you? Roll Eyes


Not as thick as you....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

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People entering Australia without a visa are not referred to as "illegal" in the Act.

Until September 1994, it did refer to "illegal entrants". This reference was removed in 1992 to simplify and clarify the existing categories on immigration status.

The Migration Act now says that a person who was classed as an illegal entrant before September 1994 became an unlawful non-citizen after that date.

In a provision dealing with people smuggling, the Act says a non-citizen has "no lawful right to come to Australia" if that person does not hold a valid visa.

Irrespective of these sections, it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa.

The description of foreigners previously as illegal and currently as unlawful in the Migration Act does not mean they have broken the law.

It is a description of their entry status and determines the way authorities process them.

Arriving without a visa can only result in criminal sanctions if there is some other offence involved such as falsifying a passport or forging a document.


Nothing I said was incorrect....Illegal entry is a term only used to describe how asylum seekers arrived and has no bearing on their legal status....Asylum seekers have broken no laws....Dickhead!!!

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oh dear how many times must I tell you something and point you in the right direction before you admit you are wrong and face the truth?

Once more from the UN Convention itself...
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The Convention further stipulates that, subject to specific exceptions, refugees should not be penalized for their illegal entry or stay.

Don't bother to let me know when you get it denier...  I don't care.  Stop wasting my time.
TROLL someone who cares...
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Reply #191 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:31pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:57am:
Once more from the UN Convention itself...



the UN convention is not Australian law.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #192 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:42pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:57am:
Once more from the UN Convention itself...



the UN convention is not Australian law.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Go away TROLL...  honestly... that is not the point being made. 

BTW the fact is according to Australian Law they have made Illegal entry to our country.

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In 2013, the Minister for Immigration, Scott Morrison, directed his department to use the term "illegal maritime arrivals" instead of the previous term "irregular maritime arrivals". The application of the term "illegal" to asylum seekers is controversial. While it is not a criminal offence to seek asylum in Australia, or to enter Australian territory without immigration documents for the purpose of seeking asylum, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Fact Check unit determined that the term was valid when referring to an arrival's entry status. In addition, the United Nations Protocol against the Smuggling of Migrants by Land, Sea and Air, to which Australia is a signatory, defines "illegal entry" as "crossing borders without complying with the necessary requirements for legal entry into the receiving State"


When will you people stop posting crap and wasting my time? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #193 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:45pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
Go away TROLL...  honestly... that is not the point being made. 


no, the point being made is that you're an idiot


Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
BTW the fact is according to Australian Law they have made Illegal entry to our country.

the libs may have changed the term to 'illegal', but that doesn't make it illegal. It is not a criminal offence to seek asylum. No matter what they call it.

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Reply #194 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 2:02pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:57am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:07am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Grendel wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:07pm:
An asylum seeker is someone seeking refuge (refugee) until such time as an asylum seeker is determined to be a refugee they remain an asylum seeker....Illegal is a term used by those seeking to demonise innocent people!!!


Correct.


Sorry boys you are wrong.
Illegal Entry is something people do and those using people smugglers definitely do.
It is defined and recognised in the UN Convention.

Yes asylum seekers are people supposedly seeking asylum, some are deemed genuine refugees others not.

The Convention merely states that asylum seekers/refugees who have made an Illegal entry are not to be prosecuted for such an act and their bona fides as a refugee need to be tested and recognised or not.  It very definitely does not say they did nothing Illegal. Roll Eyes


It is the people smugglers who are charged and prosecuted not asylum seekers....The asylum seekers have done nothing illegal....You are the one who is completely wrong as usual!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Educate yourself mate....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

Oh dear
tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me...

They are Illegal entries Phil...  no amount of stupidity, denial or obfuscation will alter that FACT.

The crews get charged Phil because they are not asylum seekers claiming refugee status.. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
just how thick are you? Roll Eyes


Not as thick as you....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935...

Quote:
People entering Australia without a visa are not referred to as "illegal" in the Act.

Until September 1994, it did refer to "illegal entrants". This reference was removed in 1992 to simplify and clarify the existing categories on immigration status.

The Migration Act now says that a person who was classed as an illegal entrant before September 1994 became an unlawful non-citizen after that date.

In a provision dealing with people smuggling, the Act says a non-citizen has "no lawful right to come to Australia" if that person does not hold a valid visa.

Irrespective of these sections, it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa.

The description of foreigners previously as illegal and currently as unlawful in the Migration Act does not mean they have broken the law.

It is a description of their entry status and determines the way authorities process them.

Arriving without a visa can only result in criminal sanctions if there is some other offence involved such as falsifying a passport or forging a document.


Nothing I said was incorrect....Illegal entry is a term only used to describe how asylum seekers arrived and has no bearing on their legal status....Asylum seekers have broken no laws....Dickhead!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

oh dear how many times must I tell you something and point you in the right direction before you admit you are wrong and face the truth?

Once more from the UN Convention itself...
Quote:
The Convention further stipulates that, subject to specific exceptions, refugees should not be penalized for their illegal entry or stay.

Don't bother to let me know when you get it denier...  I don't care.  Stop wasting my time.
TROLL someone who cares...


I fail to see what your argument is....Nothing you have posted proves refugees have done anything illegal???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #195 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 2:40pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
Go away TROLL...  honestly... that is not the point being made. 


no, the point being made is that you're an idiot


Grendel wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
BTW the fact is according to Australian Law they have made Illegal entry to our country.

the libs may have changed the term to 'illegal', but that doesn't make it illegal. It is not a criminal offence to seek asylum. No matter what they call it.


oh dear more strawmen what is it with you TROLLs?
Typical prog TROLL, cant even admit when you are wrong in the face of overwhelming facts btw.

It was always illegal till the ALP thought it was nicer not to call it illegal, even the UN calls it illegal...  and it still is...  what I don't understand is why the UN the ABC and I understand what it actually is and you daft trolls don't. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Perhaps if you bothered to actually read what i write instead of making things up, you might get it...  or not Roll Eyes
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Reply #196 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 4:55pm
 
you're an idiot goose. It was never ILLEGAL. No matter what they call it.

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Reply #197 - Nov 28th, 2017 at 8:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 4:55pm:
you're an idiot goose. It was never ILLEGAL. No matter what they call it.


No John.
YOU are an IDIOT...  the proof is there for all to read.
You stoop to personal abuse and aggression all the time because you have no argument that holds up against the facts...  you simply TROLL...

How many times must I cite the appropriate UN Conventions before you admit I am right?  Or will you just stubbornly, stupidly and wrong-headedly continue your biased abuse?
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Reply #198 - Nov 28th, 2017 at 8:24am
 
One last time...
hopefully...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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oh dear how many times must I tell you something and point you in the right direction before you admit you are wrong and face the truth?

Once more from the UN Convention itself...

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The Convention further stipulates that, subject to specific exceptions, refugees should not be penalized for their illegal entry or stay.

Don't bother to let me know when you get it denier...  I don't care.  Stop wasting my time.
TROLL someone who cares...

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