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Re: Apologise
Reply #135 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm  
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.
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Reply #136 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?
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Re: Apologise
Reply #137 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm  
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair. That's why the people smuggler option should be destroyed.
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Re: Apologise
Reply #138 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.
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Reply #139 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm  
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?
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Re: Apologise
Reply #140 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?


No.

But that's not the issue.

Why does red think refugees are poor?
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Re: Apologise
Reply #141 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm  
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?


No.

But that's not the issue.

Why does red think refugees are poor?



of course it does.
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Re: Apologise
Reply #142 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:56pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 2:07pm:
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz


Who says so?

Not your opinion, but fact.

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?


A rich refugee sure gets a chance to leapfrog over a poor refugee.


There's no queue, so they can't really leap frog.

But yes, it would certainly make it easier in a lot of cases.

Now, back to my question:

What law, government or organisation says that having a lot of money disqualifies someone from being a refugee?

Is it just a case of red getting 'pauper' and 'refugee' mixed up?


Sure there's a queue. There's a queue to pay people smugglers and board boats that poor refugees can't. That's unfair.


Some people have money, and some people don't.

It has nothing to do with determining refugee status, though.

Why doesn't red understand this?

Why does he think that all refugees are poor?

Too much TT and ACA?

Too much talk-back radio?

I'm genuinely curious as to where he got that misinformation from.




True of false- people smuggling favours refugees with money over ones without? Yes or no?


No.

But that's not the issue.

Why does red think refugees are poor?



of course it does.


Why does red think refugees are poor?
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Reply #143 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm  
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?
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Reply #144 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?
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Reply #145 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm  
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?
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Reply #146 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.
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Reply #147 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm  
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration that takes the right of Australia to choose it's refugees  on varying criteria. Your method takes poverty out of the equation and I believe that's a very important part of refugee status.
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Reply #148 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:36pm  
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
quote: Greggy...."perfectly legal refugees"

Bloody hell help me Greggy I'm rolling around laughing here and don't want to have a coronary

Please say something serious

You can't be a refugee and be able to pay 10 ten thousand dollars to get to the land of Oz

They simply just don't go together..like water and oil


10K Country Shopper YES Refugee..I don't think so Tim


Here we go Homo, look at red's post above.

red isn't say that refugees with money have an unfair advantage, or anything like that.

He's clearly stating that you can't be a refugee and have ten thousand dollars.

Now, you and I both know he's wrong, but where did he get that misinformation from.

Every time I ask him, he runs away.
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Reply #149 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:41pm  
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Are you getting the words 'refugees' and 'poor people' mixed up,  Pecker?


No.

Red is.

He maintains that someone with money can't be a refugee.

Where do you suppose he got this misinformation from?


Would you concede that a broke refugee is more desperate and needing of help than a refugee forking out $10,000 + to a people smuggler?


No.

Refugee status has nothing to do with how much money one has.

It seems you and red have both been fed the wrong information.

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

Having more money won't lessen the effect of the war, political upheaval, persecution, or natural disaster.

And, even if it did, you don't need to be broke to be a refugee, despite what red might believe.



See Pecca, you promote a method of immigration ...


Have to stop you right there.

I don't favour any method over the other.

I've told you this before.

I just like to see that all asylum seekers get a bite at the cherry.

Saying that only those who go to UNHR camps are worthy of having their claims assessed is just nonsense.

Why discriminate against people who have money and ingenuity?

As has already been established, the amount of money one has (or doesn't have) is completely irrelevant when assessing refugee claims.

A multi-billionaire can be a refugee, just the same as a person without a cent to their name can.
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