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Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:34pm
 
Same-sex marriage: The multicultural communities that voted 'yes'


Western Sydney might have voted "no", but multicultural Australia voted "yes".

An analysis of electorates where more than 40 per cent of the population was born overseas shows they overwhelmingly backed same-sex marriage outside the Western Sydney ring.

We spoke to supporters of same-sex marriage at the announcement of the marriage survey results to see how they felt about the win for the YES campaign.
From Moreton in Queensland through Reid in NSW to Gellibrand in Victoria, a clear majority of electorates with large Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese and Arabic-speaking communities got behind the move to change the definition of marriage.

In the top 10 electorates in NSW and Victoria where the overseas-born population is 40 per cent or more outside of western Sydney and the two "no" voting Victorian electorates of Bruce and Calwell, nine recorded a yes vote above 60 per cent.

Chisholm MP Julia Banks says it's wrong to assume people voted in line with their ethnicity. Photo: Wayne Taylor
In the seat of Wills in the north of Melbourne, voters delivered the "yes" vote a thumping majority.

The electorate counts more older members of the Lebanese diaspora, Orthodox churches, and Pakistani migrants than almost any other part of the country.

Seventy per cent of voters turned out in favour of marriage equality.

Mr Khalil, a Coptic Christian, said community leaders had spent time explaining that protecting the rights of the church meant protecting the rights of all – including the LGBTIQ community.

"Some priests even understood the argument that protecting religious freedom was tied to this," he said.

Mr Kahlil said religious institutional funding for the "no" campaign in Sydney that had helped push the "no" vote to 75 per cent in electorates such as Blaxland, were virtually non-existent in Melbourne.

"There was nowhere near the level of church involvement," he said.

Further south, Liberal MP Julia Banks, who counts large Malaysian and Sri Lankan populations among her Chisholm constituents, said she was "incredibly proud" of her electorate recording a 61.6 per cent "yes" vote.

"It's wrong to assume people have voted in line with their ethnicity," she said. "The result in Chisholm speaks for itself."

In Moreton, south of Brisbane, 45 per cent of residents in Graham Perret's seat were born overseas. It has seven times the proportion of the Chinese population of Queensland, four times the number of Indians, and three times the number of Taiwanese residents.

Mr Perret was one of the first backers of the latest same-sex marriage legislative push when it was first proposed in 2015 and up to 61 per cent of residents ended up voting yes in his electorate.

He said while the Buddhist community had little involvement in the debate, he had been targeted by Christian groups in the lead-up to the survey, but didn't believe his political fate would be hurt by the "yes" outcome.

"I don't think anyone is going to love their wife or husband any less," the Labor MP said.

"I think they will think about their gay neighbours life as much as they would have before the vote – not much at all."

In Sydney, Grayndler, North Sydney, Kingsford Smith and Bradfield all recorded resounding "yes" votes of 60 per cent or more.

All have high Chinese or Vietnamese Christian populations, and in Kingsford Smith, a growing Indonesian-Muslim population, 20 times the state average.

"I guess there is a strong LGBTIQ community in my area, they campaigned very positively and worked with locals and community groups to explain the need for the reform," Labor MP Matt Thistlethwaite said.

There was another factor, the local member said: Sydney Airport.

"Qantas is a very big employer and the fact that chief executive Alan Joyce and Qantas have been strong in their support was a big factor for many who work in the area," he said.

Of the most diverse electorates in Australia outside of western Sydney, only assistant minister Craig Laundy's Liberal seat of Reid recorded a relatively narrow majority of 52.7 per cent.

More than 53 per cent of the electorate was born overseas, making it among the most multicultural areas in the country – the majority of them from non-English-speaking backgrounds such as China, Korea, India and Nepal.

"We've always been a united, diverse community and this won't change," said Mr Laundy.

"People were given the chance to have their voices heard and did so overwhelmingly."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/samesex-marriage-the-multi...
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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:41pm
 
SMH? Press flush already!
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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:48pm
 
Sounds like it was rigged to me................................... a great argument against multi-culturalism right there... they have no idea of the full array of issues involved...

Just saying.........................

Who cares?  Let's just make sure the high-flying alphabets don't get too far out of hand.... and start attacking others out of spite.
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Far better the other way around ...  claiming religion allows them to create religious apartheid.

Traditional religion is rape, polygamy, and child marriage ... yet traditionalist hide their true agenda. The slippery slope to rape, polygamy, and child marriage. First step : entrench religious apartheid.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Sounds like it was rigged to me................................... a great argument against multi-culturalism right there... they have no idea of the full array of issues involved...

Just saying.........................

Who cares?  Let's just make sure the high-flying alphabets don't get too far out of hand.... and start attacking others out of spite.

Too late they have already attacked "normal" people out of spite already.
Gotta love the graffitti of Pell and Abbott the day of the result. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #5 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:32pm
 
Just wait till some power mad foaming at the mouth Gays attack some business for not wanting to have anything to do with their GAY "marriage".

Will Triggsy return as the champion of the GAYS to take their legal cases into the HRC ?

Sodom and Gomorrah here we come.
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Reply #6 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:58pm
 
Oh and to correct the OP...  it wasn't just Muslims in Sydney that voted no...  the Chinese for starters also did.
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Western Sydney might have voted "no", but multicultural Australia voted "yes".


That doesn't make sense?????
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Reply #8 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:34pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:34pm:
Same-sex marriage: The multicultural communities that voted 'yes'


Western Sydney might have voted "no", but multicultural Australia voted "yes".

An analysis of electorates where more than 40 per cent of the population was born overseas shows they overwhelmingly backed same-sex marriage outside the Western Sydney ring.

We spoke to supporters of same-sex marriage at the announcement of the marriage survey results to see how they felt about the win for the YES campaign.
From Moreton in Queensland through Reid in NSW to Gellibrand in Victoria, a clear majority of electorates with large Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese and Arabic-speaking communities got behind the move to change the definition of marriage.

In the top 10 electorates in NSW and Victoria where the overseas-born population is 40 per cent or more outside of western Sydney and the two "no" voting Victorian electorates of Bruce and Calwell, nine recorded a yes vote above 60 per cent.

Chisholm MP Julia Banks says it's wrong to assume people voted in line with their ethnicity. Photo: Wayne Taylor
In the seat of Wills in the north of Melbourne, voters delivered the "yes" vote a thumping majority.

The electorate counts more older members of the Lebanese diaspora, Orthodox churches, and Pakistani migrants than almost any other part of the country.

Seventy per cent of voters turned out in favour of marriage equality.

Mr Khalil, a Coptic Christian, said community leaders had spent time explaining that protecting the rights of the church meant protecting the rights of all – including the LGBTIQ community.

"Some priests even understood the argument that protecting religious freedom was tied to this," he said.

Mr Kahlil said religious institutional funding for the "no" campaign in Sydney that had helped push the "no" vote to 75 per cent in electorates such as Blaxland, were virtually non-existent in Melbourne.

"There was nowhere near the level of church involvement," he said.

Further south, Liberal MP Julia Banks, who counts large Malaysian and Sri Lankan populations among her Chisholm constituents, said she was "incredibly proud" of her electorate recording a 61.6 per cent "yes" vote.

"It's wrong to assume people have voted in line with their ethnicity," she said. "The result in Chisholm speaks for itself."

In Moreton, south of Brisbane, 45 per cent of residents in Graham Perret's seat were born overseas. It has seven times the proportion of the Chinese population of Queensland, four times the number of Indians, and three times the number of Taiwanese residents.

Mr Perret was one of the first backers of the latest same-sex marriage legislative push when it was first proposed in 2015 and up to 61 per cent of residents ended up voting yes in his electorate.

He said while the Buddhist community had little involvement in the debate, he had been targeted by Christian groups in the lead-up to the survey, but didn't believe his political fate would be hurt by the "yes" outcome.

"I don't think anyone is going to love their wife or husband any less," the Labor MP said.

"I think they will think about their gay neighbours life as much as they would have before the vote – not much at all."

In Sydney, Grayndler, North Sydney, Kingsford Smith and Bradfield all recorded resounding "yes" votes of 60 per cent or more.

All have high Chinese or Vietnamese Christian populations, and in Kingsford Smith, a growing Indonesian-Muslim population, 20 times the state average.

"I guess there is a strong LGBTIQ community in my area, they campaigned very positively and worked with locals and community groups to explain the need for the reform," Labor MP Matt Thistlethwaite said.

There was another factor, the local member said: Sydney Airport.

"Qantas is a very big employer and the fact that chief executive Alan Joyce and Qantas have been strong in their support was a big factor for many who work in the area," he said.

Of the most diverse electorates in Australia outside of western Sydney, only assistant minister Craig Laundy's Liberal seat of Reid recorded a relatively narrow majority of 52.7 per cent.

More than 53 per cent of the electorate was born overseas, making it among the most multicultural areas in the country – the majority of them from non-English-speaking backgrounds such as China, Korea, India and Nepal.

"We've always been a united, diverse community and this won't change," said Mr Laundy.

"People were given the chance to have their voices heard and did so overwhelmingly."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/samesex-marriage-the-multi...


If there is any lesson about efniks it is this:
Non-Muslim efniks voted yes in greater number than Muslim efniks - Christianity and Buddhism are tolerant, Islam isn't.
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juliar wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:32pm:
Just wait till some power mad foaming at the mouth Gays attack some business for not wanting to have anything to do with their GAY "marriage".

Will Triggsy return as the champion of the GAYS to take their legal cases into the HRC ?

Sodom and Gomorrah here we come.

The yes vote really surprised me; but then I,am an old-timer.What concerns me more, is, what the cost of IVF's is going to be when the Lesbians try to put it  on PBS, and the cost of AIDS, for the male gays.
In all the debates on gay marriages, it was all based on religion, yet if one looks in any sex shop, there are dildos on display, so the Lesbians just use them to imitate male sexual organs.
Why gay men want to have their way of sex is unclear to me; because some years I had a rectal examination for, and it was the most painful procedure I ever had. 
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Shows the need to improve migrant literacy...........................
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