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Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:13pm
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/samesex-marriage-western-sydney-sh...

Considering the result of the survey in the Western Suburbs of Sydney the time is ripe for a NEW political party to evolve.

A party to replace Labor.  A Left Wing Conservative Party that reflects the views of the people now that Labor has deserted them to be the new Progressive party by forgetting it was once considered the people's party.
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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:20pm
 
They can form and run , hell they may even win after Labors fifth term
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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:21pm
 
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Do we need to talk about western Sydney?

Specifically, do we need to talk about why, when the rest of ­Australia voted emphatically for same-sex marriage, western ­Sydney said no?

Because it wasn’t just a no. It was a landslide for no. A complete and total rejection of the issue that had the rest of the country doing the Locomotion.


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Let’s take a deep dive into some numbers: the seat of Blaxland, once held by former prime minister Paul Keating, had the highest No vote in the country: 73.9 per cent, compared with, say, the 80.8 per cent of voters in Malcolm Turnbull’s seat of Wentworth who voted in favour of same-sex marriage. It was the same in the seat of Watson. It had the second highest No vote in the nation, with 69.9 per cent rejecting same-sex marriage, and it’s adjacent to Blaxland, in western Sydney. And on it goes: of 133 electorates nationwide, just 17 voted No, and 12 of those were in western Sydney.


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The more diverse the community, in terms of race and religion, the likelier they were to say no — emphatically no, in many cases — to same-sex marriage.


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But it wasn’t just immigrants who voted no in western Sydney. In some seats, it was three out of every four voters, meaning maybe western Sydney hasn’t changed that much at all: Keating himself was conservative on some social issues. (Remember his famous comment, about how two blokes and a cocker spaniel don’t make a family?) Working-class Catholics still live in Sydney’s west in large numbers, and still work in what remain of the old working-class manufacturing jobs. It’s no secret that Catholic priests preached for No, as did the Sydney Anglicans, who put $1 million into the No campaign.


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Andrew Jakubowicz, professor of sociology at the University of Technology Sydney, says the ­factors were cultural, religious, ­traditional and historical.

“I wrote before the survey was even held that Sydney’s ethno-religious community would deliver a strong No,” he says. “People doubted me, but if anything I understated it. These communities are socially conservative and very family focused.


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“But it wasn’t just religion. Look at the Chinese community. The vast majority are irreligious. There has been some conversion to Christianity, but many have no religion. But they are very family focused and they were hugely concerned about (the sex education program) Safe Schools. In the last federal election, in seats like Chisholm and Banks, you had Chinese communities on WeChat (the Chinese-language social network) saying if you vote Labor, your children will become homosexuals and your family name will die out in a generation, and they voted for anyone who was against Safe Schools, and that is how ­Family First got a foothold there.”

Jakubowicz says the ethnic community in Sydney’s west was likely affronted by the question on gay marriage, too. “Look, gay relations are well known in all countries,” he says. “But it’s not marriage. It’s the kind of thing people turn a blind eye to, and always have. I think there would have been people saying: ‘But why would you marry somebody of the same sex?’ Marriage is about potency. It’s about family. It’s about handing down property. It’s about unions between families.



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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:22pm
 
Its time wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
They can form and run , hell they may even win after Labors fifth term


You wish....  both major parties are on the nose...  give Australians a sensible alternative and both will be cast aside.  Apart from those brainless tribal voters of course. Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:54pm
 
Leftwing conservative.
Isn't that an oxymoron.


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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:55pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:22pm:
Its time wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
They can form and run , hell they may even win after Labors fifth term


You wish....  both major parties are on the nose...  give Australians a sensible alternative and both will be cast aside.  Apart from those brainless tribal voters of course. Cheesy


Agreed.
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Reply #6 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm
 
I would vote for the "Christmas Party" ?
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____ wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
Leftwing conservative.
Isn't that an oxymoron.



No its not and you are showing your political ignorance. Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 7:05pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:13pm:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/samesex-marriage-western-sydney-sh...

Considering the result of the survey in the Western Suburbs of Sydney the time is ripe for a NEW political party to evolve.

A party to replace Labor.  A Left Wing Conservative Party that reflects the views of the people now that Labor has deserted them to be the new Progressive party by forgetting it was once considered the people's party.


Nothing much happened politically in the Western Suburbs.

Why would you replace the Grand old Labor party when the useless Liberals would make a lot more sense to dispatch, a party that has never stood for anything except the opportunity to put snouts in the trough.

A party dedicated to undermining Australians for the benefit of a few selected mates ?

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Reply #9 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 7:08pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
____ wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
Leftwing conservative.
Isn't that an oxymoron.



No its not and you are showing your political ignorance. Cheesy



Ask the same people if they want to end a women's access to abortion when raped, or her life's at risk.

Bet only the hard right conservatives would back the right's hatred of women. Left wingers would not.

Conservative Leftwing is an oxymoron.

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Reply #10 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 7:09pm
 
it's not the parties that are the problem, it's the way the system is set up to work that is the problem.


Ban all political donations, bring in a form of direct democracy and the representatives will actually represent the people rather than their donors. Whilst parties continue to rely on donations to sell their message they remain beholden to the donors
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Reply #11 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:34pm
 
Where a politician owes primary allegiance to a political party, and not to the citizen or even to the country, parties will always be a part of the problem.
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Reply #12 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:02pm
 
Its the issues, not the parties.
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Reply #13 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:04pm
 
The two parties always take a bipartisan approach to destroying anybody that's a threat , wake me up when that changes
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WA will have a party that runs for the senate, to get a fair share of the GST.

I think they will do quite well.
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