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Nov 16th, 2017 at 5:44am
 
Amazon in the US is almost ready to launch its "just walk out" concept in a chain of small grocery stores.
This eliminates the need for check out staff completely.
In time the concept will be expanded to large supermarkets.
There are over 3 million checkout employees in the US.

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Reply #1 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 6:53am
 
I love that automation is slowly doing away with the need to eye-ball somebody at a checkout counter and make small talk. Automatic Teller Machines (ATMs) are a gift from the Gods. Just this last week I had an issue with the bank which required me getting into the queue and waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting ... There were these two customers who stood at the tellers' windows for a good half-hour, bringing the manager out to see why the queue was reaching to the door of the bank.

Give me automation every time. The Opal system on transport is another Godsend that means you don't have to socialise with the bus-drivers any more.

And what the hell is it with these Chinese dentists who feel obliged to carry on an uninterrupted conversation with you while they're working on your teeth? With your mouth open all you can say is "ng ... yeah ... ng ... ng ... ng " but this doesn't stop these dentists from going on and on and on until your ears start to bleed. Robotic automation is the answer. Nice, quiet automation with NO obligation to play social games with a pest who wants your personal attention.

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Reply #2 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 6:58am
 
And I'm tired of the Postie expecting me to wave a greeting to him every time I happen to be in the front yard. I just give him the finger now.
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Reply #3 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:00am
 
But what about jobs Herb? There are not enough jobs now to give people dignity and these bastards like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg et al are busy trying to destroy what's left.
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Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:24am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:00am:
But what about jobs Herb? There are not enough jobs now to give people dignity and these bastards like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg et al are busy trying to destroy what's left.


There can't be much wrong with the US jobs market if the government is still happy to see migrants and refugees pouring into the country from all points of the compass.

Quote:

'Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year, of whom about 600,000 are Change of Status who already are in the U.S. Legal immigrants to the United States now are at their highest level ever, at just over 37,000,000 legal immigrants'.

The US must be a-hoppin' and a-boppin' with job vacancies as never before.

'1,000,000' a year!

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Reply #5 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:04pm
 
Famed cable and media investor John Malone, a man who repeatedly manages to cobble together some of the most complicated, and profitable, financial transactions in the world, appeared on CNBC this morning with a message for anyone in the "B2C business"...Amazon is going to use their scale to destroy you.  Speaking with CNBC's David Faber, Malone hilariously described Amazon as a "Death Star moving into striking range of every industry on the planet."

The internet "makes scale even more important in the media business, where scale always was important. It's all about scale," he said. Netflix was "the first wave. And I think Jeff [Bezos] is gonna be the most disruptive. As [his] Death Star moves into striking range of every industry on the planet."

He explained that Amazon's business dominance is growing stronger. Malone said any company that sells products to consumers is at risk of being crushed by the e-commerce giant.

"If you're in the B2C business, if you're selling anything to any consumer anywhere on the planet, you gotta believe that Amazon is gonna have a look at that opportunity to commoditize you to use scale to serve the public," he said. Bezos is "reducing cost to the consumer and providing great convenience ... You just got to take your hat off and envy what he has built."

Ironically, just yesterday we noted that Amazon's "Death Star" had moved the grocery industry directly into its sights and is preparing to fire (see: Amazon Says It's "Almost Ready" To Get 1,000s Of Grocery Store Cashiers Fired)...

Late last year we noted Amazon's efforts to 'disrupt' the traditional grocery retail model by introducing small format stores that allow customers to simply walk in, pick up what they want and walk out.  The concept store, dubbed AmazonGo, tracks a customer's every move, including each item they remove from store shelves, allowing them to skip long, often frustrating, check out lines (see: Amazon Goes Offline With Bricks-And-Mortar Grocery Chain; Envisions Opening 2,000 Stores).

Now, after nearly a full year of testing their Seattle concept store with employees, Amazon says their cashier-less grocery store is just about ready to go live.  As Bloomberg notes this morning, the company has already begun hiring construction managers and marketing staff to build out a store base.

The e-commerce giant unveiled Amazon Go last December, saying it planned to open the store to the public early this year. However, the company encountered technical difficulties and postponed the launch to work out the bugs, The Wall Street Journal reported in March.

Seven months later, challenges remain, but the “just walk out” technology has improved markedly, says the person, who requested anonymity to speak freely about the project. And in a sign that the concept is almost ready for prime time, hiring for the Amazon Go team has shifted from the engineers and research scientists needed to perfect the platform to the construction managers and marketers who would build and promote the stores to consumers

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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:12pm
 

I've never used a self-serve checkout.

However, I do buy my books online.

So, I'm supporting Coles and Woollies workers, but not Dymocks employees.

Sorry Dymocks    Cry

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Reply #7 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:36pm
 
In a nation - the USA, where 'being out in Public' can result in a drive-by shooting, a massacre, an act of terrorism. Even going to church can result in shaking hands with someone who is 'armed' but not in the Military.

Little wonder such 'business's' like Amazon are emerging.
The less 'social interaction' in the dangerous USA - the better. Because social interaction in the USA = confrontation.

The USA, especially via the Media (and its Celebrities) - really exists in a Death Star mentality. Just one big floating 'CITY' of technology heading towards being a Computer as well. But that's the USA Media for you - totally stuck in a lawn-bowl 'bias' of living in a Asia/African/European lifestyle ...from Namerica  Roll Eyes
Yep - the Yellow Asian 'city' with its token Black Man (Darth Vader). Even its 'Celebrity' President Ronald Reagan was obsessed with 'Star' Wars.  Roll Eyes
...no wonder the Media can't relate to North Americans anymore!  Tongue

So basically, this Amazon - will eventually float away from North America. Because people in North America will soon realise the negative effects of not seeing people 'face to face'.

I prefer to wait in line to see a Bank Teller.
Being 'machined' as they say, by Automation - is an isolating existence for 'the poor'.
I try hard not to go to the 'self-service' at Supermarkets.
I always go to a check-out chick/guy, the ticket-booth person, etc. Sometimes the wait is worth it.

Socialising doesn't only exist in a 'Pub' or a 'Club'.
It's also part of the workplace, the waiting line, the counter.

You can tell the 'plebs' from the 'people' when you talk to someone who works in contact with the public.

In a rural town - you could easily spot the 'illegal' immigrants. They kept their heads down and didn't acknowledge you as you passed. Immigration picked 17 in just one month by this alone on the mainstreet. The 'legal' immigrants would acknowledge as best they could at least.

Thus we see also the 'change of scenery' where in the Old Worlds - 'advancement' was a 'mental' issue where knowledge was power.
But here in the New Worlds of 'tech-savvy' and mental complexity - people are losing touch with their 'physical' state of being.
So much so - that society in the New Worlds is very much a giant computerised Death Star of Science induced technology. Where people just sit and stare - mindfully dependent on the machine to do the work for them.

I work as a Labourer. I make $40 phr. Why?
Because everyone prefers to work 'white-collar', IT-orientated, mentally-complex jobs, etc.
Not enough of us guys going around.
I would rather 'work out' digging a trench or carrying plasterboards - than paying a gym to make me do similar for no constructive purpose.
The increase in all this IT, mental jobs - has shown a rise in
'mental stress'
in the population too.
Yep - all this 'mental technological dependency' has resulted in a mentally 'complex' situation.
I know about 'mental stress', I once did a job that paid so highly, because of its strain on the 'mind'.

Btw - here in Australia, it's not the
'Customer is always Right'
, like it is in the USA (Media).
It's the
'Worker is always right'
- hence why you gotta be in it to 'win it'  Wink
And no I don't leave tips in the glass bowls at Cafe's and Restaurants. 'Black' is not the colour of the Food Industry for starters you 'snooty boutique café-latte over-priced' bores who turn your noses up at my Bogan-flanny top that makes twice as much money as you, because this is the New Worlds!
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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm
 
.JaSin. wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
I would rather 'work out' digging a trench or carrying plasterboards - than paying a gym to make me do similar for no constructive purpose.

Sensible.

Lately, I've been giving serious thought to a career change.

One that involves some physical work, and a lot less sitting.

I did it when I was younger, and loved it.

.JaSin. wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
And no I don't leave tips in the glass bowls at Cafe's and Restaurants.

Good.

Neither do I.

They're covered by a Modern Award and the NES, so there's no need for tipping.

This isn't America.

I always ask people who tip at restaurants if they tip their garbage collector, or nurse (when they're in hospital), or workers in their local newsagent, bottle shop, fashion outlet, electrical store, or book shop.

Why just cafes and restaurants?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
Lately, I've been giving serious thought to a career change.

One that involves some physical work, and a lot less sitting.



get into appliance repair .... farken rip off merchants make a fortune. My local mob charges $100 call out fee just to show up, tells me I need a part and he'll need to come back, then charges me $100 call out when he comes back .... and this is without the cost of the parts or any labour yet

They even did it to me once when I told them I needed the drain hose replaced cause it had a hole and was leaking ... fkkwit came out, told me a need a new drain hose, then proceeded to charge me for the second call out .... unbelievable
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Reply #10 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:40pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
Lately, I've been giving serious thought to a career change.

One that involves some physical work, and a lot less sitting.



get into appliance repair .... farken rip off merchants make a fortune. My local mob charges $100 call out fee just to show up, tells me I need a part and he'll need to come back, then charges me $100 call out when he comes back .... and this is without the cost of the parts or any labour yet

They even did it to me once when I told them I needed the drain hose replaced cause it had a hole and was leaking ... fkkwit came out, told me a need a new drain hose, then proceeded to charge me for the second call out .... unbelievable


Yep.

Those guys will screw you faster than you can say 'Fisher & Paykel'.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
Lately, I've been giving serious thought to a career change.

One that involves some physical work, and a lot less sitting.



get into appliance repair .... farken rip off merchants make a fortune. My local mob charges $100 call out fee just to show up, tells me I need a part and he'll need to come back, then charges me $100 call out when he comes back .... and this is without the cost of the parts or any labour yet

They even did it to me once when I told them I needed the drain hose replaced cause it had a hole and was leaking ... fkkwit came out, told me a need a new drain hose, then proceeded to charge me for the second call out .... unbelievable


Yep.

Those guys will screw you faster than you can say 'Fisher & Paykel'.

Angry



never buy fisher and paykel


whist they're usually a good machine, they have to much electronics that isn't necessary, so often break down

I asked several appliance repair guys what brand they get called out the least for, and the answer was always Westinghouse .... although I think Westinghouse sold off or moved to the china recently so not sure if that's still the case



Fisher and Paykel were their most common call out.
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Reply #12 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
Lately, I've been giving serious thought to a career change.

One that involves some physical work, and a lot less sitting.



get into appliance repair .... farken rip off merchants make a fortune. My local mob charges $100 call out fee just to show up, tells me I need a part and he'll need to come back, then charges me $100 call out when he comes back .... and this is without the cost of the parts or any labour yet

They even did it to me once when I told them I needed the drain hose replaced cause it had a hole and was leaking ... fkkwit came out, told me a need a new drain hose, then proceeded to charge me for the second call out .... unbelievable


Yep.

Those guys will screw you faster than you can say 'Fisher & Paykel'.

Angry



never buy fisher and paykel


whist they're usually a good machine, they have to much electronics that isn't necessary, so often break down

I asked several appliance repair guys what brand they get called out the least for, and the answer was always Westinghouse .... although I think Westinghouse sold off or moved to the china recently so not sure if that's still the case



Fisher and Paykel were their most common call out.


It's funny you should say that, becasue I've been told the exact opposite.

Strange   Undecided

My last F&P lasted quite a few years, and the current one is doing fine.

I hope you didn't jinx me.

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Reply #13 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 4:15pm
 
Multi-nationals are all the same.... and they don't pay much tax.

Again - reading Max Hastings 'All Hell Let Loose' and a passing comment was that certain US industrial giants made huge profits out of WWI production - but mysteriously no tax was paid.....

The problem with companies is ages-old and stems back to the original installation of company 'law' or 'rules' that were designed back in the 18th Century...

Long Past Time For A Full Review.
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Reply #14 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 4:19pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:00am:
But what about jobs Herb? There are not enough jobs now to give people dignity and these bastards like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg et al are busy trying to destroy what's left.


And when they do there'll be nobody to pay for their product and they will all collapse because rather than being wise and retaining a cash reserve, they will have put it all out into 'profitable' venues.... you see that all the time in the desperate grab for more and more... the company goes belly-up and while the head honchos walk off with a few lazy millions or even billions, the investors take it on the chin.

Again reading Max Hastings - the designer and builder of the Higgins boats - assault landing craft - went broke in 1947 after 'reckless investment strategies'.... after building tens of thousands of boats at a huge profit...

Management sucks and always has..... no idea in the real world.
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