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Reply #30 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
matty wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
So far not one lefty has said that they are going to help ensure that Muslim leaders be permitted to refuse to perform ssm ceremonies. You nasty Islamophobes.


I don't think that religious institutions should be forced to marry anyone they don't want to, nor should a baker be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

I'm all for religious protections. There are plenty of churches out there who will marry same-sex couples.




Whilst I may agree with this, has anyone produced a baker that would refuse to bake a cake?
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Reply #31 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:19pm
 
matty wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
So far not one lefty has said that they are going to help ensure that Muslim leaders be permitted to refuse to perform ssm ceremonies. You nasty Islamophobes.


Why need help?  I thought a generally that religious marriage ceremonies will be protected while secular is expected to not discriminate?
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Reply #32 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:30pm
 
The answer to the topic question is NO.
Bill Shorten has said NO all along...  but hey he is the real DR No of Australian politics.
ALP members still have a free vote or did, it remains to be seen what Bill will do re that.  2019 was the original YOU must vote for SSM date. 24 ALP members and Plibersek have been pushing to end the free vote.
The western suburbs seats voted against SSM.  But it appears their wishes will remain unrepresented in our so called representative democracy.  Chris Bowen just told me that he knows better than his constituents and he will be voting against their majority wishes.  After all he know best.
And you wonder why a plebiscite was necessary.
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Reply #33 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:40pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
matty wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
So far not one lefty has said that they are going to help ensure that Muslim leaders be permitted to refuse to perform ssm ceremonies. You nasty Islamophobes.


I don't think that religious institutions should be forced to marry anyone they don't want to, nor should a baker be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

I'm all for religious protections. There are plenty of churches out there who will marry same-sex couples.




Whilst I may agree with this, has anyone produced a baker that would refuse to bake a cake?


Actually not true. The vast majority of Catholic and Orthodox priests will not marry couples, and Magdalena Szubanski (a Catholic dyke) has said that that pains her. Don't be so naive.
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Reply #34 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:42pm
 
stunspore wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:19pm:
matty wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
So far not one lefty has said that they are going to help ensure that Muslim leaders be permitted to refuse to perform ssm ceremonies. You nasty Islamophobes.


Why need help?  I thought a generally that religious marriage ceremonies will be protected while secular is expected to not discriminate?


Not really help, that was a bad choice of word on my part. I should say promote or stand up for, to be darn sure that there are no restrictions whatoeever on Muslim leaders to support it.
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Reply #35 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:48pm
 
another dumb thread by matty  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #36 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:46am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:48pm:
another dumb thread by matty  Cheesy Cheesy


Another evasive post by John.
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Reply #37 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:53am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:48pm:
another dumb thread by matty 


He's not a sore loser, though.

Oh no, not matty.

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Reply #38 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:15am
 
I can just see a couple of Camel Punchers going to the Imam and asking for a marriage... enough of that might trim the Musso population a little bit....
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Reply #39 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:31am
 
matty wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:46am:
John Smith wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:48pm:
another dumb thread by matty  Cheesy Cheesy


Another evasive post by John.


nothing evasive about it. The left has already stated that religious freedom is protected. You can shove your head up your arse and pretend otherwise if you want, just don't expect me to humour you while you do it.
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Reply #40 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:34am
 
Melbourne Imam Nur Warsame, Australia's first openly gay Imam, supports same-sex marriage but said it was definitely not a priority for LGBTI Muslims.

"Discussions are more about how to survive," he said.
"Priorities are having a safe place, going out and being safe and not being targeted by family."

The National Imams Council recently declared marital relationships that were not between a man and a woman as "Islamically impermissible".

But Imam Warsame said opposition was pinned on old and misconstrued interpretations of the Koran, based on certain agendas of fear and control.

"Marriage equality I think is actually founded in the basic teachings of Islam," he said.

"When you look holistically, the Koran foundationally blesses relationships built on love and mercy.

"There is nothing in the Koran about throwing homosexuals off buildings."
Whilst Imam Warsame will not be speaking out to urge others to vote Yes, as he strongly opposes the idea of a postal survey, he hopes one day he will be able to marry same-sex couples.

"I look forward to it, I've already been approached."




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Reply #41 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:31am:
matty wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:46am:
John Smith wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:48pm:
another dumb thread by matty  Cheesy Cheesy


Another evasive post by John.


nothing evasive about it. The left has already stated that religious freedom is protected. You can shove your head up your arse and pretend otherwise if you want, just don't expect me to humour you while you do it.


You refuse to admit that Muslims were proportionally THE biggest demographic to vote against ssm.
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Reply #42 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:54pm
 

matty is NOT a sore loser!

Okay?

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Reply #43 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:03pm
 
Lefties happily respect the right of minorities to hate homosexuality it seems. But don't be white and male because they will hate your guts???
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Reply #44 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:11pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:03pm:
Lefties happily respect the right of minorities to hate homosexuality it seems. But don't be white and male because they will hate your guts???


We don't hate you, Homo.

We're amused by you.

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