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Reply #15 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 9:13am
 
Still I remember (I think) Nigeria getting to the final 4 and possibly Bulgaria as well.
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Reply #16 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 9:56am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 9:13am:
Still I remember (I think) Nigeria getting to the final 4 and possibly Bulgaria as well.



Crotia did in 98, are you thinking of them? Nigeria havent gotten to the quarter finals yet
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Reply #17 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 10:23am
 
Are you sure? I don't disbelieve you, I just have a memory of them travelling very well in one finals.
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Reply #18 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 10:27am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 10:23am:
Are you sure? I don't disbelieve you, I just have a memory of them travelling very well in one finals.



I checked on Nigeria, and you have my apologies, Bulgaria made the semis in 94, and now I'm kicking myself, cause they had Stoichkov who was a damn good player.
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Reply #19 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 10:36am
 
Yes, these teams are based on one or two star players. Croatia is another example but I can't remember the guy's name.

Stoichkov & Romario went on to be the backbone of one of the greatest ever Barcelona sides.
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Reply #20 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 10:40am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Yes, these teams are based on one or two star players. Croatia is another example but I can't remember the guy's name.

Stoichkov & Romario went on to be the backbone of one of the greatest ever Barcelona sides.




Davor Sukur is the name you're thinking of.

That Barca side of the mid 90s. Drools, but they had the most influential soccer person of all coaching.
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Reply #21 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 11:27am
 
That's him. Maradonaesque he was. Was it in the world cup he did a.memorable goal celebration where he twirled about like a Cossack dancer?
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Reply #22 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 11:48am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 7:04pm:
What a load of bullshit!



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Reply #23 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
Just finished watching it.
The Socceroos were a drag.
If it was for Honduran stuff-ups (deflection, hand-ball), Australia would have found it lucky to get 1-0

Australia is so boring to watch. Can't even connect in passing most of the time, especially under pressure and as usual - always tackling too hard. Knobs!


Beg to differ.
Boring is often successful and I cite Germany as a prime example. But if you are an afficianado of the game it's not really boring at all. It's tactical like chess and boring gradually produces the openings to score.
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Reply #24 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:19pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
Just finished watching it.
The Socceroos were a drag.
If it was for Honduran stuff-ups (deflection, hand-ball), Australia would have found it lucky to get 1-0

Australia is so boring to watch. Can't even connect in passing most of the time, especially under pressure and as usual - always tackling too hard. Knobs!


Beg to differ.
Boring is often successful and I cite Germany as a prime example. But if you are an afficianado of the game it's not really boring at all. It's tactical like chess and boring gradually produces the openings to score.



I agree, all we really lack is a decent no 9. Apart from that our build up play is good at the moment, we're definitely not an English bash and crash side anymore.
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Reply #25 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:30pm
 
Not, you mean.

One of the benefits of multiculturalism.
Would you believe I saw Stanley Mathews & Blackpool v Australia in the mid fifties I think.
It was an exhibition match really but it showed how pathetic we were at this game.
We have come a long way thanks to the influence of Italian/Hungarian/Yugoslav people mainly.
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Reply #26 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:33pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
Not, you mean.

One of the benefits of multiculturalism.
Would you believe I saw Stanley Mathews & Blackpool v Australia in the mid fifties I think.
It was an exhibition match really but it showed how pathetic we were at this game.
We have come a long way thanks to the influence of Italian/Hungarian/Yugoslav people mainly.



Yep changed it. Don't know if theres been a time since about the 1900s maybe 1910s where you could truly say England was the best team in the world. And I'm including 1966 in that.
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Reply #27 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:39pm
 
They were a solid team. Bobby Moore, Martin Peters, Knobby Stiles, Bobby Charlton and of course Geoff Hurst.
But the master race of Franz Beckenbauer were about to change all that.
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Reply #28 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:46pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:39pm:
They were a solid team. Bobby Moore, Martin Peters, Knobby Stiles, Bobby Charlton and of course Geoff Hurst.
But the master race of Franz Beckenbauer were about to change all that.



From what I've read they weren't a bad side, but they were helped by the home ground advntage and some refing calls.


But frequently the best side doesnt win the WC, look at Hungary in 1954 and Holland in 74 and 78
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Reply #29 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:58pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
Just finished watching it.
The Socceroos were a drag.
If it was for Honduran stuff-ups (deflection, hand-ball), Australia would have found it lucky to get 1-0

Australia is so boring to watch. Can't even connect in passing most of the time, especially under pressure and as usual - always tackling too hard. Knobs!


Soccer is boring.
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