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Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm
 
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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A few of the Islamophobes' sons will be getting these for Christmas, I assume.

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Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm
 
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?

If theybwant it to be at least representitive of islam it needs these things
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:15pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



no pet you just buy your own daughter one...I am ok with that..

maybe one for gewggy while your in the store.
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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:20pm
 
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



no pet you just buy your own daughter one...I am ok with that..

maybe one for gewggy while your in the store.


I prefer this one:

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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:49pm
 
why?
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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



no pet you just buy your own daughter one...I am ok with that..

maybe one for gewggy while your in the store.


I prefer this one:

http://slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/curiosities/2014/november/images/barbie_an...


I bet you do.

Divorce Barbie is a better option for your daughter

It comes with "all" of Kens shyte.
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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:52pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



no pet you just buy your own daughter one...I am ok with that..

maybe one for gewggy while your in the store.


I prefer this one:

http://slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/curiosities/2014/november/images/barbie_an...


I bet you do.

Divorce Barbie is a better option for your daughter

It comes with "all" of Kens shyte.


Yes, that's correct.

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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:11pm
 
I recently acquired a burka clad doll from my local voodoo shop that I poke pins into.
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thats not nice   what has dolly done to you???..

thats sad.. Cry
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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
thats not nice   what has dolly done to you???..

thats sad.. Cry

Bad dolly, she does not stand up for women's rights, I am honing another pin right now.
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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:24pm
 
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



no pet you just buy your own daughter one...I am ok with that..

maybe one for gewggy while your in the store.


shut up cods, i wasn't offering you one. Only to FD.
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Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:37pm
 
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?


Sorry Valkie, but there's probably some niche adult shop that might meet your particular "appetites".
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:43pm
 
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?

If theybwant it to be at least representitive of islam it needs these things


What accessories would come with 'Christian Barbie?

A priest, carrying a bag of lollies?

A rod (to beat her children with)?

A book outlining the reasons why science isn't real?

I'm curious.
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:44pm
 
gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?


Sorry Valkie, but there's probably some niche adult shop that might meet your particular "appetites".

Just for you Grandalf.
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Reply #15 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?

If theybwant it to be at least representitive of islam it needs these things


What accessories would come with 'Christian Barbie?

A priest, carrying a bag of lollies?

A rod (to beat her children with)?

A book outlining the reasons why science isn't real?

I'm curious.


The biggest science deniers and flat earthers are Islamic Religious leaders and Scholars.

Wake up to yourself.
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Reply #16 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:33pm
 
jeez wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:23pm:
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
thats not nice   what has dolly done to you???..

thats sad.. Cry

Bad dolly, she does not stand up for women's rights, I am honing another pin right now.


The Hijab is mandatory for women in Saudi Arabia and Iran, nice to see the leftists continuing to support this oppression of women.

Rita Panahi is an ex muslim from Iran, I wonder what she says about the Hijab- https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/868596061811507200
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Reply #17 - Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:44pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?

If theybwant it to be at least representitive of islam it needs these things


What accessories would come with 'Christian Barbie?

A priest, carrying a bag of lollies?

A rod (to beat her children with)?

A book outlining the reasons why science isn't real?

I'm curious.


The biggest science deniers and flat earthers are Islamic Religious leaders and Scholars.

Wake up to yourself.


So, you're all ok with the priest, the lollies, and the rod?

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Reply #18 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:06am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:44pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 6:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?

If theybwant it to be at least representitive of islam it needs these things


What accessories would come with 'Christian Barbie?

A priest, carrying a bag of lollies?

A rod (to beat her children with)?

A book outlining the reasons why science isn't real?

I'm curious.


The biggest science deniers and flat earthers are Islamic Religious leaders and Scholars.

Wake up to yourself.


So, you're all ok with the priest, the lollies, and the rod?



Are you OK with the pimped out Dancing Boys?
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Reply #19 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 7:44am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?

If theybwant it to be at least representitive of islam it needs these things


What accessories would come with 'Christian Barbie?

A priest, carrying a bag of lollies?

A rod (to beat her children with)?

A book outlining the reasons why science isn't real?

I'm curious.




a pink cadillac  and heaps of stiletto heels.


huh!  you mean Islam is all about  science

wow! have you told gandi?
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Reply #20 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 5:55pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
New hijab-wearing Barbie modelled on Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad



The maker of Barbie says it will sell a doll modelled after Ibtihaj Muhammad, an American fencer who competed in last year's Olympics while wearing a hijab.


Mattel, the company that manufactures the famous range of dolls, says the hijab-wearing Barbie will be available online next spring in Australia.

The doll is part of the Barbie "Shero" line that honours women who break boundaries.

Past dolls have included gymnast Gabby Douglas and Selma director Ava DuVernay.

Ibtihaj Muhammad posted on Twitter she was "proud" young people would be able to play with "a Barbie who chooses to wear hijab!"



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/barbie-makes-doll-of-hijab-wearing-olympia...



send me a PO box address FD, I'll send you one for christmas  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #21 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:53pm
 
well done sore end ..... you even found one to your liking.
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Reply #22 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:27pm
 
gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 3:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?


Sorry Valkie, but there's probably some niche adult shop that might meet your particular "appetites".


Or a country in the middle east?
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Reply #23 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm
 
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?
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Reply #24 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:41pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


Great post Set.
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Reply #25 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.
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Moral confusion


Me: Okay... Let’s make it even simpler. What if we found a culture that ritually blinded every third child by literally plucking out his or her eyes at birth, would you then agree that we had found a culture that was needlessly diminishing human well-being?

She: It would depend on why they were doing it.

Me (slowly returning my eyebrows from the back of my head): Let’s say they were doing it on the basis of religious superstition. In their scripture, God says, “Every third must walk in darkness.”

She: Then you could never say that they were wrong.

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Reply #27 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm
 
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.
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Reply #28 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance. The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.
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Reply #29 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:24pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.


I know about the chopstick one and I think it's more about the visuals and how it so reminds them of a grave.

That aside,  Chinese and Viets have lots of superstitions they tip-toe around.
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Reply #30 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


(Clears throat) Allow me to explain. Australia, like much of the Western World made a radical shift away from racist policies after WW2. This was parallel to the dismantling of European colonialism. Liberation movements and other socially progressive ideals gain wide acknowledgement in the 1960s, including a cynical view of governments with nuclear weapons. The humanist perspective had a certain logic, but progressives made two mistakes. They blamed Europe for racism due to the much publicized African American slavery, while not bothering to examine inequality and ignorance in other cultures. (Including Arab African slavery) And it assumed that humanist success in the West would simply spread world wide by the weight of apparent logic. It didn't work.

Why the latest batch of humanist do-gooders stick up for Islam is because if they don't, they may have to examine their own short-sighted view of morals, cultures, history, and human nature. And if there is one thing the sanctimonious hate to do, its admit their assumptions might have been wrong.
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I once made the mistake of taking a banana onto someone else's boat. I laughed at first, but it turns out they were serious about it. Fishing is all about superstition.
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Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.


I know about the chopstick one and I think it's more about the visuals and how it so reminds them of a grave.

That aside,  Chinese and Viets have lots of superstitions they tip-toe around.


From what I've seen, if all east Asians are like the Nips and Chinese, superstition runs in their blood, they don't even notice it, it's just a part of their being. At least it's not overtly harmful, just funny when you point it out to them.
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Reply #33 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:33pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.


I know about the chopstick one and I think it's more about the visuals and how it so reminds them of a grave.

That aside,  Chinese and Viets have lots of superstitions they tip-toe around.


From what I've seen, if all east Asians are like the Nips and Chinese, superstition runs in their blood, they don't even notice it, it's just a part of their being. At least it's not overtly harmful.


I found the Viets to be very pragmatic about it and after a few beers they laugh at it, and silly rules never get in the way of making.
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Reply #34 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:34pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.




my mum would go white if anyone spilt salt in our house it was a big No No  she would rush over grab as much as she could pick up and throw it over her left shoulder.....probably saying a quick prayer to her invisible guiding angel...
we just had to make sure we werent standing behind her inthose moments...

we never did find out. what would happen  if she didnt toss the salt
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And feminists defend this....wtf!
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Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


(Clears throat) Allow me to explain. Australia, like much of the Western World made a radical shift away from racist policies after WW2. This was parallel to the dismantling of European colonialism. Liberation movements and other socially progressive ideals gain wide acknowledgement in the 1960s, including a cynical view of governments with nuclear weapons. The humanist perspective had a certain logic, but progressives made two mistakes. They blamed Europe for racism due to the much publicized African American slavery, while not bothering to examine inequality and ignorance in other cultures. (Including Arab African slavery) And it assumed that humanist success in the West would simply spread world wide by the weight of apparent logic. It didn't work.

Why the latest batch of humanist do-gooders stick up for Islam is because if they don't, they may have to examine their own short-sighted view of morals, cultures, history, and human nature. And if there is one thing the sanctimonious hate to do, its admit their assumptions might have been wrong.


I'm a lefty humanist but I think the "movement" has left me behind.
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And feminists defend this....wtf!


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Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.
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Reply #39 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm
 
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Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.

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The Moslems will soon do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews.

When the Moslems expend the last essence of their once Great Empire against a France who is sacrificed by the rest of Europe to 'do something about those Moslems'.

The Moslems will become like the Jews before the Germans got to them.

Jews - unarmed
Germans - genocide them
Jews - form Israel and become 'Military' orientated.
Germany - disarmed

So after the Moslems let go of their 'Military' ways against the French.
Then the Italians get taken over by the Mafia and 'genocide' the unarmed Moslems.

Yep - the Italians really cut loose on the Moslems all over the Middle-East.
But as the Moslems 'pray' for help as they are being slaughtered, in a world that has no sympathy because of their past transgressions of Terrorism and genocide of the French.
When all seems lost and as if Allah (God, Yahweh, etc) himself has forsaken them!
From out of nowhere come the Israelis - by then, a Super Power of Military might.
The Jews give the Mafia-Italians a taste of their own Medicine and 'Religion' has almost been extinguished from Europe (Germany, France, Italy)...
...with just the UK (Union Jack 'cross') still flying till the end of the 'story'.  Wink
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Reply #41 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:51pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.


Awrways, Grasshopper, I shock Round Eyes I dine with when I use chop stick properly!  Show them how to pick up a pea or a grain of rice... you are welcome... it is developed skill..........
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Reply #42 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 11:07pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:51pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


As an atheist I see religions as nothing more than a collection of customs,  ideas and traditions.

On balance Islam is the worst of the lot.


Pretty much my view. Not all cultures or religions are equal. Some are downright offensive.

edit: Superstition... We were eating with chopsticks last night, my middle son is up from Canberra and his girl is Chinese, youngest's is a Nip. We were talking about how to use chopsticks correctly, I suggested just stab them in the food a stick into your mouth. I was told "no you cant do that!" I asked why? My youngest son said superstition, his wife disagreed, we then had her explain it, "it's like bad luck, you stick two incense sticks that way in front of a grave!" we were told, immediately my son and I laughed and said "so superstition!" I think she got the message.


Awrways, Grasshopper, I shock Round Eyes I dine with when I use chop stick properly!  Show them how to pick up a pea or a grain of rice... you are welcome... it is developed skill..........


I can do that, I can also pick up little bits of wasabi and place it on my sushi although I'm yet to find a way to pick up Soy Sauce. It was a discussion about the "right" way to do it.
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Is the doll covered in bruises under the burka?

Does it come with a supply of stones for stoning?

What about a whip for whipping?


Sorry Valkie, but there's probably some niche adult shop that might meet your particular "appetites".

Just for you Grandalf.


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Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


Because I interpret it differently to you maybe?
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freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance. The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.



The decision is made on the superficial appearance

Just take a minute or two to let that sink in FD. You too setanta
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Reply #46 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:46pm
 
gandalf wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they
must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance.
The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.



The decision is made on the superficial appearance

Just take a minute or two to let that sink in FD. You too setanta



Appearance of INNOCENT VICTIMHOOD, Ahmed.

Not physical appearance.

Oh, you are ARE quick to jump on the VICTIMHOOD bandwagon, aren't you, shoving any momenentary comprehension out of the way in your rush and haste.  A bit like Kameel and the mention or arses and faeces, you are there in a jiffy when Muslim victimhood is to be claimed.





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Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.




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Now they are being treated as Terrorists...  really?
I guess that's why they all live in Goulburn Supermax with the rest of the Terrorists then eh? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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bugger off troll, I'm not interested in our stupidity today.
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gandalf wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


Because I interpret it differently to you maybe?


I don't think he was referring to Muslims Gandalf.
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Reply #51 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.


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freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance. The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.



The decision is made on the superficial appearance

Just take a minute or two to let that sink in FD. You too setanta


I don't play the man Gandalf, I don't attack Muslims, I will certainly have something to say about ideologies people hold and I have seen nothing to make me change my mind about Islam.
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Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.






Zakir Naik says every muslim should be a terrorist.


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Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.

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Reply #55 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:01pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.






Zakir Naik says every muslim should be a terrorist.





stupidity isn't limited to right wingers or Christians.
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Reply #56 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:02pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.


So is Christianity the blame for it's small amount of pedos?
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Reply #57 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:04pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:02pm:
So is Christianity the blame for it's small amount of pedos?


who ever said it was?
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Reply #58 - Yesterday at 4:42am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.



But there are far more than the occasional stabbing or looting from this 3% minority in our country.

They, as a group, are overrepresentedin virtually every violent crime statistic.

They, as a group, practice abhorrent cultural, and yet illegal, practices.

They, as a group, all protest waving posters about violence and murder.

Not just the radicals.
Not just ISIS
Not just a few

But all of them.

The only thing stopping them, as a group, from taking over this country and FORCING us to abide by their primitive, brutal rules.
Is that there are not yet enough of them.

But they are working on that, as we speak.
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Reply #59 - Yesterday at 12:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.



You are assuming that ISIS is the only bad version of Islam around. It has been pointed out to you plenty of times already how wrong you are, but still you trot this out. For example, the majority of Muslims in Indonesia (the most populous Muslim country, apparently) and Malaysia support the death penalty for things that no sane person would even consider a crime. What you say is no less idiotic than whining about how the majority of Nazis personally refrained from slaughtering Jews.
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Reply #60 - Yesterday at 12:33pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:27pm:
You are assuming that ISIS is the only bad version of Islam around.


no, I gave isis as an example but they're not the only bad egg.

even when you add up all the others, it is still a very small percentage of muslims who are extremists

freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:27pm:
It has been pointed out to you plenty of times already how wrong you are, but still you trot this out.


more rubbish. put up one post from me claiming isis is the only bad egg?

freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:27pm:
What you say is no less idiotic than whining about how the majority of Nazis personally refrained from slaughtering Jews.


no, whats idiotic is you trying to attribute to me comments that I've never made.

Are you worried that unless you make crap up your have no argument FD? IS that it? You can't debate what I actually said so instead pretend I said something else? That for me is the very definition of idiotic.

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even when you add up all the others, it is still a very small percentage of muslims who are extremists


Are you suppressing the memory of what the majority of Malaysian and Indonesian Muslims think? Or is it just a reading comprehension problem? Could it be that you are acknowledging that supporting the death penalty for apostasy and adultery is actually mainstream for Islam? Who knows what is going on in the mind of John? He certainly isn't going to tell us.

What noise does a jellyfish make, John?
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Reply #62 - Yesterday at 12:44pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:39pm:
Are you suppressing the memory of what the majority of Malaysian and Indonesian Muslims think


Unlike you, i'm not suppressing anything..

have you found those comments you attributed to me yet?
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Reply #63 - Yesterday at 12:45pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:39pm:
What noise does a jellyfish make, John?



you need to stop projecting yourself onto others.

You've run away from almost every question ever asked of you and you want to pretend anyone else is the jellyfish?  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #64 - Yesterday at 1:43pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:39pm:
Are you suppressing the memory of what the majority of Malaysian and Indonesian Muslims think? Or is it just a reading comprehension problem? Could it be that you are acknowledging that supporting the death penalty for apostasy and adultery is actually mainstream for Islam? Who knows what is going on in the mind of John? He certainly isn't going to tell us.

What noise does a jellyfish make, John?


freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:27pm:
It has been pointed out to you plenty of times already how wrong you are, but still you trot this out. For example, the majority of Muslims in Indonesia (the most populous Muslim country, apparently) and Malaysia support the death penalty for things that no sane person would even consider a crime.


How many times have you pointed this out, FD?

I'm curious.
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