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Reply #45 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance. The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.



The decision is made on the superficial appearance

Just take a minute or two to let that sink in FD. You too setanta
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Reply #46 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:46pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they
must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance.
The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.



The decision is made on the superficial appearance

Just take a minute or two to let that sink in FD. You too setanta



Appearance of INNOCENT VICTIMHOOD, Ahmed.

Not physical appearance.

Oh, you are ARE quick to jump on the VICTIMHOOD bandwagon, aren't you, shoving any momenentary comprehension out of the way in your rush and haste.  A bit like Kameel and the mention or arses and faeces, you are there in a jiffy when Muslim victimhood is to be claimed.





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Reply #47 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.




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Reply #48 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:04pm
 
Now they are being treated as Terrorists...  really?
I guess that's why they all live in Goulburn Supermax with the rest of the Terrorists then eh? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Honestly, not a skerrick of reality.
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Reply #49 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
bugger off troll, I'm not interested in our stupidity today.
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Re: One for the Islamphobes
Reply #50 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:25pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


Because I interpret it differently to you maybe?


I don't think he was referring to Muslims Gandalf.
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Reply #51 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.


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Re: One for the Islamphobes
Reply #52 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:35pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


I think it comes down to victimhood and white knight syndrome. Some people see those on the receiving end, even if it is just verbal criticism, and assume they must therefor be innocent victims in need of their assistance. The decision is made on the superficial appearance, in ignorance of what is actually being said or done. It helps of course if they are a minority. Minorities are always the victims.



The decision is made on the superficial appearance

Just take a minute or two to let that sink in FD. You too setanta


I don't play the man Gandalf, I don't attack Muslims, I will certainly have something to say about ideologies people hold and I have seen nothing to make me change my mind about Islam.
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Reply #53 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.






Zakir Naik says every muslim should be a terrorist.


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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Re: One for the Islamphobes
Reply #54 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.

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Re: One for the Islamphobes
Reply #55 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:01pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.






Zakir Naik says every muslim should be a terrorist.





stupidity isn't limited to right wingers or Christians.
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Re: One for the Islamphobes
Reply #56 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:02pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.


So is Christianity the blame for it's small amount of pedos?
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Reply #57 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:04pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:02pm:
So is Christianity the blame for it's small amount of pedos?


who ever said it was?
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Reply #58 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 4:42am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.



But there are far more than the occasional stabbing or looting from this 3% minority in our country.

They, as a group, are overrepresentedin virtually every violent crime statistic.

They, as a group, practice abhorrent cultural, and yet illegal, practices.

They, as a group, all protest waving posters about violence and murder.

Not just the radicals.
Not just ISIS
Not just a few

But all of them.

The only thing stopping them, as a group, from taking over this country and FORCING us to abide by their primitive, brutal rules.
Is that there are not yet enough of them.

But they are working on that, as we speak.
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Re: One for the Islamphobes
Reply #59 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 12:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
I have no idea why some of you stick up for Islam, it's a toxic pox on mankind. Sure stick up for the people who are it's victims, those inculcated to it through accident of birth or threat, but why would anyone defend such a "faith" of their own free will?


it's not about defending Islam.


What is it about then? I don't see it as something one should even try to ameliorate. It's(Islamic ideology) rightwing gone crazy on steroids.


it's about not treating normal everyday muslims as terrorists just because they believe in Islam.



This is the part I'm not getting, a certain subset of people here who defend Islam on the basis of not treating all Muslims as the same, which I don't, are happy to treat other rightwing ideologies and their supporters equally as as bad as each other. You may take Greg's slurs on Trump supporters as one example. All Liberals are bad, all ON supports are stupid racists, yet the same "courtesy" is not given to followers of Islam. Being somewhat middle of the road with a definite left perspective without an ounce of PC in me, I can't understand why those of the left treat it as some sacred cow. It(Islam) doesn't fit anywhere into what I would consider a left perspective on life, women, socially acceptable views and politics. The ideology should be thrown from tall buildings.




no one has ever seriously demanded all one nation voters get thrown out of the country Set. No one has ever seriously demanded we ban all liberal voters from this country. Or that trump supporters be strafed by machine gun fire.

You confuse political bombast with religious persecution.

The fact remains that the greater majority of Muslims do not agree with ISIS' interpretation of the Koran. Isis has what, 50? 100 000 supporters globally? there are 1.8B muslims. If Islam was as evil as some on here try to make out then we'd get a hell of a lot more than the occasional stabbing or shooting.



You are assuming that ISIS is the only bad version of Islam around. It has been pointed out to you plenty of times already how wrong you are, but still you trot this out. For example, the majority of Muslims in Indonesia (the most populous Muslim country, apparently) and Malaysia support the death penalty for things that no sane person would even consider a crime. What you say is no less idiotic than whining about how the majority of Nazis personally refrained from slaughtering Jews.
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