Yes advocates label proposed same-sex marriage law, backed by No campaign, a ‘licence to discriminate’

YES campaigners have said a proposed same-sex marriage law is so poorly written even heterosexuals could find themselves discriminated against.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/yes-advocates-label-proposed-sames...






Why are people allowed to legally discriminate in a secular country, on the grounds of religious fictions.

Fictional religious gobbledygook should be taxed.

Government education funding only to non religious state schools.

Removal of tax advantages for fictional religious charities.

And a full medical investigation into religious beliefs, in it being a mental illness.
If so, protecting children from it.

Are Australians funding ultra-orthodox jews in this country?

And enters ... the first piece of evidence that religion is a mental illness.

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 4:05pm:

Is fighting over property and resources a mental illness too: because that's what a society does and is indeed why it needs itself to survive!

Religion gave you everything!

Valkie wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:



This should probably be awarded Post of the Day if not of The Week

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 4:35pm:



Religion has a place in a civilised society.
Yes, the museum.

Religion : supposed to create attributes like goodness, kindness, altruistic ... so these people if not influenced by religion would be the opposite?

That's crap. It's religion being used to pretend superiority. It's implying if you are not religious then you can't be a decent person.

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:



Highlighted

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:


Second statement highlighted.

TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:




Your evidence is your opinion, not a fact.

I exist because of the holodeck creates this planetary illusion. Meanwhile my body is safe, in status, while the space ship warps across universal space. So religion is an illusion of the holodeck program.

TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:



And you are a great example why all children should be protected from religious zealots.

You have already admitted you would abandon your children because of your religious beliefs. That infers you are not suitable to parent.

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 4:47pm:


Why would you wish to pervert someones belief in a diety?

What would you gain from destroying someones faith, especially when it is in no way presenting any danger or causing you any angst?

One could say the same thing about the LGBTIQ mob, and that there is no such thing as percieved different sexes or what they feel.

There is a far stronger argument for religion than LGBTIQ  mantra.

Leave people alone
If they wish to worship a diety, as long as it in no way harms you, thats no business of yours, is it?

The alternative coukd be far worse.
Imagine people saying, " Who cares, it dont matter, Ill just do whatever I like to anyone I like"

Valkie wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 6:27pm:


Horrifying photos show tragic woman who died after 67 exorcisms because parents thought she was 'possessed by devil'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/chilling-photos-woman-possessed-devil-11...


You mean the alternative to this sort of behaviour is worse ... for who?

Religion or not is a private matter

Believe or not, up to the individual

Defeating the devil: why exorcism in Australia is on the rise

Exorcism is on the rise worldwide, backed by no less a figure than Pope Francis. In Australia, Peter Munro meets some of our foremost demon wranglers, and people who say they've had their souls saved.

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/defeating-the-devil-why-exorcism-in-australia...

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:


No it is not a private matter since mental illness nurture means it is passed down generations.

Time to break the cycle by protecting all children from religious dogma.

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:



Early days, devil was allied with the deity. Such is religion. The only certainty is all rules are in flux. .

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:


So without God there is no good. Without the Devil, no evil.

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:



Still learning to count? Don't forget eleventy thirteen.

lee wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 6:57pm:



Yet deity is suppose to be everything. This would suggest deleting devil, evil still exists.

Making exorcisms are an oxymoron.  Deleted deity so to promote deity.

DOHL !

lee wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:



And I did.
That's 13 now.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:07pm:



Fair to say, most people don't give a rat's about what anyone believes or doesn't

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:



Skipped because irrelevant. I was a ward of the state and my childhood was in a secular government home. No religious brainwashing took place in any shape or form.

OK.
Now that has been put to bed.
All children have to be protected from this religious inflicted mental illness.

To continue would be mass child abuse. A greater destruction than what occurred with the stolen generation. Since that was a part of this religious mental illness.

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

Are you saying your family skipped 13 generations of religious instruction?

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:15pm:

You said 13 generations.... 

lee wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Oh,...so he's not talking about skipping 13 generations of religious instruction!

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:



See.  All about itself.  Trying to get people to take an interest in itself, using its family as proxy

It's a dead end of self-absorption

Toxic

Dear _ __ _ _

DON'T confuse religion with God.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:



No hurt, since I wasn't taught to religiously hate.
I'm like this because I'm a free thinkers and so can see the chains that the religious are trying to shackle their children with.

It's time to end religious child slavery ... just as it was time to end stealing aboriginal children on religious grounds.

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:



Fighting to maintain some sort of relevancy now, are you?

Worse than a broken record

Surely by now even you have grasped that no one's interested in the story of your life, no matter how desperate you are to tell it

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

So your solution would have been what?

TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:



Treat others as how I would like to be treated.
It's not rocket science.

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:



god told you?

Jasin wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:


I've read God's very own book....The Holy Bible. Have you?

Religion is at its best when it becomes a countercultural force; when it has no power, only influence, no authority except that which it earns, no claim to people's attention other than by the way it creates values that cannot be found elsewhere. It is then that it loses its perennial tendency to corruption and becomes again what it once was - a startling new voice, redeeming us from our loneliness, framing our existence with meaning, and teaching us to remember what so much else persuades us to forget - that the possibilities of happiness are all around us. - Jonathan Sachs
http://www.lit-hum.org/2013/02/when-religion-is-at-its-best.html

The main aim of a religion that teaches love is to overcome narcissism. - Fromm (paraphrased).

Now we live in an Age, where Science believes it has the right to play 'GOD' too 

lee wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 8:22pm:


Remove (aboriginal) children from their parents
Remove children from their religious parents


Same Same ?

lee wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:



I didn't.
It's was a logic conclusion.

Now back to my point.

Religious people kidnapping children from aboriginal families.
Protecting children from religious child abuse.
Same Same ?

And the Priests of Sumeria
Stood upon their Temple of in Purrrrrrrrrsia.
There they looked up at (nanna)
of what we call the 'Moon' today.
And there they came to be inspired by ...Sin
Thus creating, the 'written' word of .
Like these thoughts between ink & paper,
Finger and button.
Immortality cracked across the heaven in a flash of light
and the future rained down upon the dry lands.
Behold!
Sin of Ur hath spoken.


*******

Writing was originally expressed on Stone in Cuniform.
Then, the Babylonians conquered Sumeria.
But Writing was still used to log down harvests, weather, tides and other Logistics needed to run a People's daily needs.
A few conquests later...
...a Family called the 'Jews' decided to use Writing for their own 'personal' use. By recording their 'Family Tree' - starting from great grandpa Adam & his wife Eve and so-on.
Thus a 'Family' became 'immortal' in the name of 'memory'.
Doing so, granted them a sense of 'power', prestige and a case of the haves and have nots.
They became more 'special' than the other families because they were the first to set their name in stone.
With this, came the 'moral' expression of their Family
and thus - was 'created' under the gaze of above.

See - it's really just a piece of writing. 

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:


Wow. You certainly know how to pick out phrases unsaid.

Try getting a brain.

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 11:16pm:


Can't even get that right. I did not say religious physical abuse.

What I was pointing out you were not interested in protecting children from physical abuse. You did notice there wasn't a comma or semi-colon after "No"?

lee wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 11:33pm:



So abusive religion adults, children protection is the main aim.
Woo Hoo ... common ground.


These religious adults who teach their own religious hate to the children, this is a form of child abuse?

Grendel wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 8:44am:



Religious child abuse is the blame of the religious adults.
How is this blaming a deity?

And child abusers are not good people.

And if this deity is single sexed, how can it be everything. DOHL !
Giving it male qualities is just is a crutch to allow sexist behaviours that attacks female rights.

This religious mental illness, seems to be causing inbreeding and so increasing levels of severe intellectual deficits.

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 10:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 10:38am:



Thank you for truncating the post and ignoring this -

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 10:28am:



So come on big boy. Tell all.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 10:49am:



Really? Where have I apologised for religion?

If you were to say you were religious and that killing gays was good; it doesn't mean you are religious. it just means you are using religion to justify your own dreams and ambitions.

My old Aunty had a saying " There are likely better Christians outside the Church than those sitting in the front row".

____ wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:



Reposted ... for Lee

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 11:49am:



Like religious parents teaching their children to hate?

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 12:59pm:


Are you suggesting that it's up to others to decide if the parents are religious?

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:


Who determines which actions are religious?