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Reply #690 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:29am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 11:18pm:
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no, aborigines are banned as well


From where? Uluru? We have been over this also. The men traditionally climb it for ceremonial purposes. The women, of course, are banned. This is the case for most Aboriginal sacred sites. The evidence specifically referring to Uluru has been presented to you several times already.




You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you.

In Indigenous reckoning, there is women's business and men's business. Men can't go some places, women can't go some places.

And not all men walk on the rock.

It's seriously a national embarrassment how little most Australians know about Aboriginal ways of doing things.

And then, to top it all off, fools like FD call them racist. It's astonishing.


Ahhhh the old Hindmarsh Island theory ey?

An application of Aboriginal Women's Business thought up by non aboriginals.
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Reply #691 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:47am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:29am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 11:18pm:
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no, aborigines are banned as well


From where? Uluru? We have been over this also. The men traditionally climb it for ceremonial purposes. The women, of course, are banned. This is the case for most Aboriginal sacred sites. The evidence specifically referring to Uluru has been presented to you several times already.




You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you.

In Indigenous reckoning, there is women's business and men's business. Men can't go some places, women can't go some places.

And not all men walk on the rock.

It's seriously a national embarrassment how little most Australians know about Aboriginal ways of doing things.

And then, to top it all off, fools like FD call them racist. It's astonishing.


Ahhhh the old Hindmarsh Island theory ey?

An application of Aboriginal Women's Business thought up by non aboriginals.



As i said, it's a national embarrassment how little most Australians know about Aboriginal affairs.
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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #692 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 10:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
It is not a lie.


of course it is. You pretending otherwise isn't going to change that.


Are you saying white people will not be banned? Does this idiocy have any substance to it, or do you just blurt it out these days?


The only idiocy is you pretending it's not a lie. It has ZERO substance to it. no one is banned from Uluru, no matter how much you pretend otherwise.
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Reply #693 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 12:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 12:37pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 10:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
It is not a lie.


of course it is. You pretending otherwise isn't going to change that.


Are you saying white people will not be banned? Does this idiocy have any substance to it, or do you just blurt it out these days?


The only idiocy is you pretending it's not a lie. It has ZERO substance to it. no one is banned from Uluru, no matter how much you pretend otherwise.


Were all the newspaper articles about the ban lying? Or is this your nonsense about not being banned because they can still visit the gift shop? Has this really gotten that stupid? At this rate you'll be drooling on your keyboard soon.

Can you cite any context, other than spinelessly apologising for racism, sexism and government imposed superstition, where you would argue people aren't banned from something because they can take a photo from a distance?

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As i said, it's a national embarrassment how little most Australians know about Aboriginal affairs.


Were you embarrassed by John's claim that they would ban everyone, including all Aboriginal men? Or is it only embarrassing when Australians speak out against blatant racism?

Are you assuming people will suddenly approve of racism, sexism and government imposed superstition if they only realised it was all part of Aboriginal culture?
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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #694 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 12:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Were all the newspaper articles about the ban lying?


no, but you are.

Do you think if your argument had any sort of merit you would need to resort to lying so much FD?  Cheesy Cheesy




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Reply #695 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 1:05pm
 
Are you trying to think of some other, slightly less idiotic, reason why it is a lie? Do let us know when you think of something.
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Reply #696 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
Are you trying to think of some other, slightly less idiotic, reason why it is a lie? Do let us know when you think of something.


I don't need any other reasons. I've given you two already. One would have sufficed.
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Reply #697 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm
 
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?
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Reply #698 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?



that's another of your lies, yes ... but we're still on the first one.
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Reply #699 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:02pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?



that's another of your lies, yes ... but we're still on the first one.


It's a question John. Don't be a jellyfish now. Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?
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Reply #700 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?



that's another of your lies, yes ... but we're still on the first one.


It's a question John. Don't be a jellyfish now. Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?


unlike you, I don't pretend to know anything about a gift shop.

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Reply #701 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 9:47am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:29am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 11:18pm:
Quote:
no, aborigines are banned as well


From where? Uluru? We have been over this also. The men traditionally climb it for ceremonial purposes. The women, of course, are banned. This is the case for most Aboriginal sacred sites. The evidence specifically referring to Uluru has been presented to you several times already.




You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you.

In Indigenous reckoning, there is women's business and men's business. Men can't go some places, women can't go some places.

And not all men walk on the rock.

It's seriously a national embarrassment how little most Australians know about Aboriginal ways of doing things.

And then, to top it all off, fools like FD call them racist. It's astonishing.


Ahhhh the old Hindmarsh Island theory ey?

An application of Aboriginal Women's Business thought up by non aboriginals.



As i said, it's a national embarrassment how little most Australians know about Aboriginal affairs.


Nearly as embarrassing as how much some non Indigenous Australians think they know about Aboriginal affairs.
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Reply #702 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?



that's another of your lies, yes ... but we're still on the first one.


It's a question John. Don't be a jellyfish now. Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?


unlike you, I don't pretend to know anything about a gift shop.



You learn something new every day John.

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowUserReviews-g256205-d257925-r248466344-Uluru_Kata_Tjuta_Cultural_Centre-Uluru_Kata_Tjuta_National_Park_Red_Centre_Northe.html
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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #703 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?



that's another of your lies, yes ... but we're still on the first one.


It's a question John. Don't be a jellyfish now. Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?


unlike you, I don't pretend to know anything about a gift shop.



You learn something new every day John.

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowUserReviews-g256205-d257925-r248466344-Uluru_Kata_Tjuta_Cultural_Centre-Uluru_Kata_Tjuta_National_Park_Red_Centre_Northe.html



great, you made something up and finally happened to get lucky


and it is relevant because .............?
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Reply #704 - Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:53pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?



that's another of your lies, yes ... but we're still on the first one.


It's a question John. Don't be a jellyfish now. Is one of them that white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?


unlike you, I don't pretend to know anything about a gift shop.



You learn something new every day John.

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowUserReviews-g256205-d257925-r248466344-Uluru_Kata_Tjuta_Cultural_Centre-Uluru_Kata_Tjuta_National_Park_Red_Centre_Northe.html



great, you made something up and finally happened to get lucky


and it is relevant because .............?


I don't know if it is relevant John. I am asking you why you say it is a lie. I can only guess at the reason for the idiotic things you post.

Is it a lie because white people are allowed to visit the gift shop?

Is it actually a surprise to you that there is a gift shop?
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