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Reply #555 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:48pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

You still haven't answered. This is now the 23rd time I've asked.

I wonder why FD goes on about Bondi while all the while ignoring all those private beaches owned by the resorts scattered up and down the queensland barrier reef Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Nobody owns beaches except certain aboriginal groups. It's against the law.

really, try go to the beaches at Haggerstone island or Bedarra Island

Nobody owns land that is covered by the tide. It's crown land. people can control access to a beach but nobody can stop you pulling a boat up on it. You can't go on certain beaches if it's aboriginal land though.

so they can stop you using a beach? Thanks for playing

No. access to a beach via land if you need to trespass to get to it. If you get to a beach lawfully nobody can kick you off unless it's aboriginal land or a beach in man made waterways like the canals in your neck of the woods.

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Reply #556 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:48pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

And Ps: I detest bullies. Particularly when they imagine they're part of a gang. Cowards. I detest cowards too

I detest multis and frauds.

Especially banned ones.

You had better clarify ... make your comment clearer

very clear

or people might think you're referring to me

Waiting ....

Yep. You!

To whom do I report you ?

And I see you are capable of smacking with my computer

of forcing me offline

of trying to get me to commit to an unsafe log in

And where's the mod?

This has happened before. The fkucking with my computer when my comment doesn't suit TPTB in this forum

Which is why I disembark for months at a time

And why so many here have to resort to socks/multiple IDs

just to give the impression there are a few actual members

Now. Put up or shut up 'lisa smith'

You can't

But before I leave this toxic, data-mining operation

Freedriver did NOT 'out' John Smith at all

No, 'lisa smith' --- it was YOU who insisted on disparaging John Smith's heritage

YOU all the time

And like your sleazy forebears claim, you believed that if you told the same LIE often enough about John Smith, it would be accepted by the rank and file

NO, Freedriver did NOT 'out' John Smith's heritage at all

It was YOU, 'lisa smith'

ALL YOU, crowing and braying repeatedly, the same lie

the same VICIOUS lie

Then you tried to turn it on Freedriver

You simply are not smart enough, not nearly smart enough to pull off a mindless little stunt like that and get away with it

You are a vicious individual. And an outright liar

People have cried for your removal

I agree with them. You sound insane (as many must have told you repeatedly)

All my comments, posts & opinions are to be regarded as satire & humour

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Reply #557 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:50pm

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

You still haven't answered. This is now the 23rd time I've asked.

I wonder why FD goes on about Bondi while all the while ignoring all those private beaches owned by the resorts scattered up and down the queensland barrier reef Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Nobody owns beaches except certain aboriginal groups. It's against the law.

really, try go to the beaches at Haggerstone island or Bedarra Island

Nobody owns land that is covered by the tide. It's crown land. people can control access to a beach but nobody can stop you pulling a boat up on it. You can't go on certain beaches if it's aboriginal land though.

Would you like to try again?

Nobody can kick you off a beach mothballs .

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Reply #558 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:53pm

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Third attempt at a straight answer from John:

If the government handed control of Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that control over the beach would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

Is it dawning on you how idiotic your argument is yet? Or does it still need some work?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

John if the government handed Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that ownership would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

blah blah blah ....
lots of groups of white people own land around bondi that I am restricted from accessing FD. Why isn't that racism? Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

A very weak answer.

It's a feeble excuse for spineless evasion.

Smith - you're either a halfwit or you're being disingenuous.

The only land you can't go on near Bondi Beach is private land.
If you had some money you could buy land there and live on it.

This is not the case at Ayers Rock.

I am an Australian citizen and as such I should have a right to go to Ayers Rock
& climb it if I want.

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Reply #559 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

No, post the part about how after a period of time the board would have the right to review tbe issue of people climbing the rock.

Post that part, please. In full.

No you can.

All I see is this :

On 26 October 1985, hundreds of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people attended the 'Handover' when Governor-General Sir Ninian Stephen passed over the title deeds at a ceremony at the base of Uluru.

Five minutes later the traditional owners signed an agreement leasing the park back to the Australian Parks and Wildlife Service for 99 years.

And the lease agreement in question ensured public access to Uluru.

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

HYPATIA - Greek philosopher, mathematician and astronomer (370 - 415)

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #560 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

To whom do I report you ?

And I see you are capable of smacking with my computer

of forcing me offline

of trying to get me to commit to an unsafe log in

And where's the mod?

This has happened before. The fkucking with my computer when my comment doesn't suit TPTB in this forum

Which is why I disembark for months at a time

And why so many here have to resort to socks/multiple IDs

just to give the impression there are a few actual members

Now. Put up or shut up 'lisa smith'

You can't

But before I leave this toxic, data-mining operation

Freedriver did NOT 'out' John Smith at all

No, 'lisa smith' --- it was YOU who insisted on disparaging John Smith's heritage

YOU all the time

And like your sleazy forebears claim, you believed that if you told the same LIE often enough about John Smith, it would be accepted by the rank and file

NO, Freedriver did NOT 'out' John Smith's heritage at all

It was YOU, 'lisa smith'

ALL YOU, crowing and braying repeatedly, the same lie

the same VICIOUS lie

Then you tried to turn it on Freedriver

You simply are not smart enough, not nearly smart enough to pull off a mindless little stunt like that and get away with it

You are a vicious individual. And an outright liar

People have cried for your removal

I agree with them. You sound insane (as many must have told you repeatedly)

well said. Wink

Wink

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #561 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:55pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

No, post the part about how after a period of time the board would have the right to review tbe issue of people climbing the rock.

Post that part, please. In full.

No you can.

All I see is this :

On 26 October 1985, hundreds of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people attended the 'Handover' when Governor-General Sir Ninian Stephen passed over the title deeds at a ceremony at the base of Uluru.

Five minutes later the traditional owners signed an agreement leasing the park back to the Australian Parks and Wildlife Service for 99 years.

And the lease agreement in question ensured public access to Uluru.

And there still will be access.

You're not very good at this, are you.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #562 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:56pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

You still haven't answered. This is now the 23rd time I've asked.

I wonder why FD goes on about Bondi while all the while ignoring all those private beaches owned by the resorts scattered up and down the queensland barrier reef Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Nobody owns beaches except certain aboriginal groups. It's against the law.

really, try go to the beaches at Haggerstone island or Bedarra Island

Nobody owns land that is covered by the tide. It's crown land. people can control access to a beach but nobody can stop you pulling a boat up on it. You can't go on certain beaches if it's aboriginal land though.

so they can stop you using a beach? Thanks for playing

No. access to a beach via land if you need to trespass to get to it. If you get to a beach lawfully nobody can kick you off unless it's aboriginal land or a beach in man made waterways like the canals in your neck of the woods.

no one stopping you from landing a chopper on Uluru Hammer. You just can't climb it. Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #563 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:58pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

You still haven't answered. This is now the 23rd time I've asked.

I wonder why FD goes on about Bondi while all the while ignoring all those private beaches owned by the resorts scattered up and down the queensland barrier reef Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Nobody owns beaches except certain aboriginal groups. It's against the law.

really, try go to the beaches at Haggerstone island or Bedarra Island

Nobody owns land that is covered by the tide. It's crown land. people can control access to a beach but nobody can stop you pulling a boat up on it. You can't go on certain beaches if it's aboriginal land though.

so they can stop you using a beach? Thanks for playing

No. access to a beach via land if you need to trespass to get to it. If you get to a beach lawfully nobody can kick you off unless it's aboriginal land or a beach in man made waterways like the canals in your neck of the woods.

no one stopping you from landing a chopper on Uluru Hammer. You just can't climb it. Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Yes I can unless the government changes the contract the aboriginal people signed with the government.

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Reply #564 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:00pm

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

And Ps: I detest bullies. Particularly when they imagine they're part of a gang. Cowards. I detest cowards too

I detest multis and frauds.

Especially banned ones.

You had better clarify ... make your comment clearer

very clear

or people might think you're referring to me

Waiting ....

Yep. You!

To whom do I report you ?

And I see you are capable of smacking with my computer

of forcing me offline

of trying to get me to commit to an unsafe log in

And where's the mod?

This has happened before. The fkucking with my computer when my comment doesn't suit TPTB in this forum

Which is why I disembark for months at a time

And why so many here have to resort to socks/multiple IDs

just to give the impression there are a few actual members

Now. Put up or shut up 'lisa smith'

You can't

But before I leave this toxic, data-mining operation

Freedriver did NOT 'out' John Smith at all

No, 'lisa smith' --- it was YOU who insisted on disparaging John Smith's heritage

YOU all the time

And like your sleazy forebears claim, you believed that if you told the same LIE often enough about John Smith, it would be accepted by the rank and file

NO, Freedriver did NOT 'out' John Smith's heritage at all

It was YOU, 'lisa smith'

ALL YOU, crowing and braying repeatedly, the same lie

the same VICIOUS lie

Then you tried to turn it on Freedriver

You simply are not smart enough, not nearly smart enough to pull off a mindless little stunt like that and get away with it

You are a vicious individual. And an outright liar

People have cried for your removal

I agree with them. You sound insane (as many must have told you repeatedly)

Who the hell is Lisa Smith?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

How about you log off, take your slab of meds then come back online and resume abusing the cr@p out of Greens in the other topic which you saw fit to do ESP AFTER I entered that topic and supported him.

See you!

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Reply #565 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

no one stopping you from landing a chopper on Uluru Hammer. You just can't climb it. Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Yes I can unless the government changes the contract the aboriginal people signed with the government. [/quote]

agreement guarantees access to the rock. Not ON the rock..... it doesn't guarantee your ability to climb. The abo's own it, it's up to them what they do with it conditional on continued permission for tourists to visit.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #566 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm

The Rock is flaking and eroding away as is clear in any close-up photo

More importantly, the Rock is a sacred site. And the track used by tourists to climb it is, as the article I posted said, a sacred pathway

Wherever we step, we leave our essence. Yes, it's invisible to our eyes. But our eyes see only a tiny fraction of all that is

Allowing tourists to walk that sacred path is tantamount to saying it's fine for those same tourists, giggling, eating, joking, to walk through your family front door

It's sacrilege. We do not permit the profane to giggle and chew as they walk through Westminster Abbey or into the Pope's Inner Sanctum. We wouldn't allow just anyone to wander into our family's burial vault

It's time we learned some respect. It's time we learned and taught our children that certain places are off-limits to us

We failed to learn. We failed to adhere to the polite and reasonable requests that we behave appropriately whilst at the Rock

Our Age of Entitlement must end. As we're incapable of ending it ourselves via our attitudes and behaviours, we must obey when we have to be 'told', like children

I'm glad they're restricting access to the Rock. It deserves better. And if tourists want to undertake that long and expensive journey, they need to know from the outset, from before they leave their homelands, that they will be permitted to take the walking track around the Rock, but the Rock itself is off-limits

I'm glad it will eventually be able in the future to slumber in the sun, free of thousands of profane feet

All my comments, posts & opinions are to be regarded as satire & humour

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Reply #567 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

No, post the part about how after a period of time the board would have the right to review tbe issue of people climbing the rock.

Post that part, please. In full.

No you can.

All I see is this :

On 26 October 1985, hundreds of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people attended the 'Handover' when Governor-General Sir Ninian Stephen passed over the title deeds at a ceremony at the base of Uluru.

Five minutes later the traditional owners signed an agreement leasing the park back to the Australian Parks and Wildlife Service for 99 years.

And the lease agreement in question ensured public access to Uluru.

He's run away. 😳😒🤔🙄

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Reply #568 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:03pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

no one stopping you from landing a chopper on Uluru Hammer. You just can't climb it. Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

Yes I can unless the government changes the contract the aboriginal people signed with the government.

agreement guarantees access to the rock. Not ON the rock..... it doesn't guarantee your ability to climb. The abo's own it, it's up to them what they do with it conditional on continued permission for tourists to visit. [/quote]
That's not how I read it.

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Reply #569 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 10:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 9:53pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Third attempt at a straight answer from John:

If the government handed control of Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that control over the beach would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

Is it dawning on you how idiotic your argument is yet? Or does it still need some work?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

John if the government handed Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that ownership would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

blah blah blah ....
lots of groups of white people own land around bondi that I am restricted from accessing FD. Why isn't that racism? Cheesy

Cheesy

Cheesy

A very weak answer.

It's a feeble excuse for spineless evasion.

Smith - you're either a halfwit or you're being disingenuous.

The only land you can't go on near Bondi Beach is private land.
If you had some money you could buy land there and live on it.

This is not the case at Ayers Rock.

I am an Australian citizen and as such I should have a right to go to Ayers Rock
& climb it if I want.

actually booby, it is the case at Ayers rock. The land was given to the traditional owners. They OWN IT. That makes it PRIVATE LAND.
I already put up a quote and link from a government website.

told you that you were to stupid to get it.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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