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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #480 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:20pm freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm: They don't own the beach John. but they do own the rock
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Reply #481 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:22pm

Third attempt at a straight answer from John:

If the government handed control of Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that control over the beach would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

Is it dawning on you how idiotic your argument is yet? Or does it still need some work?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

John if the government handed Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that ownership would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

blah blah blah ....
lots of groups of white people own land around bondi that I am restricted from accessing FD. Why isn't that racism? Cheesy

A very weak answer.

It's a feeble excuse for spineless evasion.

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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #482 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:20pm: freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm: They don't own the beach John. but they do own the rock You're really losing the plot now and the rollie-eyes aren't helping
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #483 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:24pm PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm: You're really losing the plot now and the rollie-eyes aren't helping they're the traditional owners. As such they have right of say over how the rock is used. roliie eyes and all.
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Reply #484 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

John if the government handed Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that ownership would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

blah blah blah ....
lots of groups of white people own land around bondi that I am restricted from accessing FD. Why isn't that racism? Cheesy

A very weak answer.

I never expected you to get it booby. you rarely do.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #485 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:22pm: Third attempt at a straight answer from John: is that all? why was i banned fd?
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Reply #486 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:29pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

You're really losing the plot now and the rollie-eyes aren't helping

they're the traditional owners. As such they have right of say over how the rock is used. roliie eyes and all.

Working from what you've said, they 'own the rock' (which is as ridiculous as it sounds)

but the rock is in Australia

So how about Australians tell them to shift their rock elsewhere, like to Thailand or somewhere?

To follow on from that, do they own the rock all the way down (2.5 kilometres)? Will they be shifting the entire thing, or only down to ground level?

Hope they don't want a loan of machinery from us or anything

and we know they're too lazy to chip it up and load it

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Reply #487 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

You're really losing the plot now and the rollie-eyes aren't helping

they're the traditional owners. As such they have right of say over how the rock is used. roliie eyes and all.

No They Don't - Not Any More Than They Have The Right To Say What Happens On Grazing Land Held By Farmers Over Which They Also Have Native Title - to do what is traditional - not just play block.

Get it right, Smith - this is nothing but just another push to expand the interpretation of 'traditional ownership' or Native Title, so as to give to Aboriginals everywhere the 'right' to control what does and does not happen in any area over which they have Native Title.

What happens when they decide - once your kind have their way without thought - to decree that the paid-up Owner of cattle country cannot run cattle there because it is 'against their beliefs'?

When did you arrive here?

If feminism taught us one thing, it was that once you gave a mealy-mouthed and superficially decent thing to them - they used that as the foot in the door to expand it and make it more and more their own domain regardless of anyone else, and as a 'right'.

What the hell is wrong with people who cannot see these simple realities?

Time to start saying NO - and mean it!

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Reply #488 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

John if the government handed Bondi Beach to a group of white people, with the expectation that they would ban all women and non-white men in accordance with their religious views, and that ownership would be an exclusive birthright of their children, would you insist that it is not racist so long as there was a theoretical possibility of them letting a non-white person in who adopted their religion and culture?

blah blah blah ....
lots of groups of white people own land around bondi that I am restricted from accessing FD. Why isn't that racism? Cheesy

A very weak answer.

NOT AT ALL.

WHY?

BECAUSE JOHN SMITH HAS FINALLY COME CLEAN IN TELLING THE TRUTH IE THAT HE'S ABORIGINAL.

WELL DONE FD!

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Reply #489 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

You're really losing the plot now and the rollie-eyes aren't helping

they're the traditional owners. As such they have right of say over how the rock is used. roliie eyes and all.

No They Don't - Not Any More Than They Have The Right To Say What Happens On Grazing Land Held By Farmers Over Which They Also Have Native Title - to do what is traditional - not just play block.

Get it right, Smith - this is nothing but just another push to expand the interpretation of 'traditional ownership' or Native Title, so as to give to Aboriginals everywhere the 'right' to control what does and does not happen in any area over which they have Native Title.

What happens when they decide - once your kind have their way without thought - to decree that the paid-up Owner of cattle country cannot run cattle there because it is 'against their beliefs'?

When did you arrive here?

If feminism taught us one thing, it was that once you gave a mealy-mouthed and superficially decent thing to them - they used that as the foot in the door to expand it and make it more and more their own domain regardless of anyone else, and as a 'right'.

What the hell is wrong with people who cannot see these simple realities?

Time to start saying NO - and mean it!

It's those behind the aborigines. They the ones running the agenda

They have fingers in all pies, worldwide

Destruction is their game

Destruction of society via various means is simply a tool within their agenda

Abos are pawns

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Reply #490 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm

Valkie wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

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I agree with the fact that banning access to Ayers Rock will set a dangerous precedent.

In effect....it will allow for exclusion zones within Australia btwn Australians.

I'm just as much an Australian as any Aboriginal person as far as I'm concerned.

I was born/bred here and will one day die here in Australia too.

I have just as much claim to my country as anyone else.

I'm not any less of an Australian than any Aboriginal person. Why should I be treated as inferior?

All my bloody life I've been made to feel inferior because my parents were born n bred in Europe and that being born and bred in Australia meant nothing.

No. Stuff it....I'm sick of being excluded. And I won't tolerate it any more.

Not once was I asked how I felt/identified given the fact that the only country I ever knew was Australia.

What rights does an Australian born person have?

Well I believe they ought to have the same rights as ALL Australian born people.

Enough of exclusions/divisions.....our kids deserve better

Exactly

How many generations does it take to be considered a native of a country?

Remember, tge Australian aboriginees KILLED OFF the original owners of the land.
What goes around, comes around.

I consider myself as much a traditional owner of this country as any who declare themselves aboriginal.

I have contributed with my labour, my money and my children.

Where are my land rights?

Reverse racism, that is what it is.

It's worse than that....it's abhorrent discrimination that will negatively impact Australia in the long run.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #491 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

BECAUSE JOHN SMITH HAS FINALLY COME CLEAN IN TELLING THE TRUTH IE THAT HE'S ABORIGINAL.

FD ban her please. According to you revealing personal information will not be tolerated, even if the information is false. You said something along the lines of 'if it looks like personal information it will be treated as such, no loopholes ' ....

or does that rule only apply to some people fd?

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Reply #492 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:54pm

Trouble is --- the ratback mafia known as our government (including every slapping pollie, all 'sides')

is backing it

Because .... the ratbag, owned and paid-for bunch of thugs who infest the building we paid for, known as 'our parliament' (all locations) will legitimize the 'ownership of the rock by abos'

because the ratbag thugs do not work for us

they work for those guys who manipulate global finances, wars, porn, drugs, LGBTetc, mass migrant invasions, and every other damn thing

And ... it serves as yet another 'distraction' to keep off whatever balls the uber-thugs are involved in, none of which will benefit us of course

The abos couldn't give a rat's about a rock

They only 'care' when they're led by the nose and promised something in return for pretending to care for maybe five seconds

But, I know it's an important matter of principle for some or even many

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #493 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:54pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:30pm: No They Don't tell the high court.
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Reply #494 - Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm

PZ547 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Working from what you've said, they 'own the rock' (which is as ridiculous as it sounds)

but the rock is in Australia

So how about Australians tell them to shift their rock elsewhere, like to Thailand or somewhere?

and you reckon I was losing the plot? Cheesy

ohh, they own the land that the rock sits on as well.

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