FD's still pretending it''s about sexism and racism, is he?

Is it stubbornness or stupidity?

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 9:34pm:


Sometimes a question is just a question, Mothra.

And there are plenty of private residences that people visit for the sole purpose of standing outside and looking, even though they are explicitly or implicitly banned from entering.

go back two steps and start again with the reality of ban on climbing OUR Rock

Banning climbing Ayers Rock/Uluru does nothing for Aboriginal reconciliation

http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/opinion/banning-climbing-ayers-rockuluru-does-nothing-for-aboriginal-reconciliation/news-story/b7bd9badcc750c471f9045f50fce11ee

PLANS to close Ayers Rock to climbers from 2019 add more weight to the notion that the most divisive force in Australia is not white people, but Aboriginal activists.

Already in response, other Aboriginal advocacies are calling for more natural landmarks to be closed to non-Aborigines, such as Mt Warning in northern NSW.

Closing The Rock to climbers will likely set off a domino effect of similar exclusion orders around the country.

Locally, entry to Mossman Gorge is controlled by the Kuku Yalanji people. They say entry needed to be managed to prevent damage by visitors.

The same can’t be said for the hardy chunk of sandstone in Central Australia. Instead, it’s being closed for “cultural reasons”.

In the Daintree, the State Government is looking at increasing the role of Aboriginal culture in managing the area. This includes limiting entry to “sacred sites”.

Those proposing closures say indigenous law should trump the law of the land.

For instance, chairman of the Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park board of management at Ayers Rock, Sammy Wilson, said of the native people: “Anangu have a governing system but the whitefella government has been acting in a way that breaches our laws.”

This is absurd and divisive.

If white people proposed a different set of laws for themselves, it would make international headlines and draw worldwide condemnation.

But laws that exclude whites are praised and defended.

Another example from the Daintree is that indigenous people can take dogs into the World Heritage area, light fires and shoot guns.

Good luck doing that if you’re not from the right tribal group.

In the Hinchinbrook, a big chunk of Missionary Bay is off-limits to anyone who’s not a traditional owner without a permit in order to protect “cultural resources”, without actually saying what those are.

Preserving “culture” is continually pushed by activists determined to punish modern non-Aboriginal Australians for the sins of their fathers.

In reality, Aboriginal culture while undoubtedly worthy of pride, respect and learning, has been misused by some to promote self-segregation, with “no whites” computer rooms, sporting teams, jobs and land – all while criticising non-indigenous for failing to embrace “reconciliation”.

But it’s hard to reconcile when the other party keeps telling you how terrible you are and says you can’t go to certain places.

If you don’t support partioning off Australia along racial lines decided by Aborigines, you’re culturally insensitive, ignorant, bigoted, and racist.

But whenever a defence of European, Caucasian or Christian culture is offered, there are reminders that we must all be eternally ashamed.

Natural features such as mountains, rocks, swimming holes, beaches and rivers belong to no one and should be accessed and enjoyed by all.

As explained recently by someone upset by this: “To ban anybody who is not indigenous from freely accessing this chunk of ancient dried sandstone is a form of racism. If the Human Rights Commission was of any use whatsoever it would be smacking this disgusting, selfish, nasty decision down.”

If Aborigines say climbing Ayers Rock – or Uluru as they call it – is disrespectful to their culture, we can acknowledge that.

So no hitting golf balls off The Rock, no partying, no defecating and no leaving of rubbish.

Aboriginal rangers could patrol the area and prosecute those who don’t treat the climb respectfully.

Same goes for the Hinchinbrook, Mossman Gorge and the Daintree.

Anyone should be allowed to go for free but not to desecrate.

Mt Olympus, Mt Everest, Mt Kiliminjaro, Mt Fuji, the Rock of Gibraltar – all these natural features are sacred to the indigenous peoples of those lands.

But you can still climb on them, and in fact, it is encouraged – respectfully of course.

So we must ask, if Aboriginal activists truly want “reconciliation” in a united Australia, what would work better: demanding laws that only benefit Aborigines and exclude whites? Or encouraging their people to be more tolerant, more open to change and more inclusive?

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:



would be interesting if they found Lasseters Reef or oil under it wouldnt it????>.

Uluru stands 348 metres above sea level at its tallest point (24m higher than the Eiffel Tower), yet it resembles a “land iceberg” as the vast majority of its mass is actually underground - almost 2.5km worth

Case in point....my 4 kids. I have no Irish/Scottish/English ancestry....but the 4 kids I gave birth to...do.

I can't claim to have any ANZACS in my heritage.....but they can.

All I really know about the ANZAC's is the information I gleaned from an old and injured soldier....my father in law....which was many years ago....and the fact that I've retained his WWII uniform and medals on behalf of his grandchildren ie my kids.

I play "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" on the piano a few times a year and stop half way because of the tears over our dead boys.

Every time I see our Australian flag raised in victory in an Olympic Game race....I find myself tearing up with national pride and joy.  I look at the young girl/boy and I ask God to bless them and their family for teaming up to make our country so awesome.